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    Long post on the way...

    Once every couple of months my friends and I will hit a club. Between the 3 of us we'll drop about 5K per visit. I usually spend around $1500. I know it's a lot, but when the wives let us out we play hard.

    We always hit the same club and a couple of us have regular girls we spend the evening with. Well, it all started out fun, but as time has worn on the girl I hang with has gotten very emotional with me. So much so that the last time I went she used the L word and was crying and telling me how sad she was that she couldn't have me.

    I don't think it's a hustle for money. We'll go to VIP and she won't let me pay for it. I usually leave with several hundred I would have given her. I'm a business man so I understand the concept of "give some away now to get more later", but I don't think this is the case (or she could be a damn good hustler).

    There are probably some important details I'm leaving out, but I don't want to write a book here (is it too late?). I'm just really confused. I feel like an asshole for letting this happen, but also know that I cannot wait to see her again.

    What the frick should I do here?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wysiwyg View Post
    I usually spend around $1500.
    Where I go, they cry and say "I love you" for $150. But I don't get into that during the flu season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wysiwyg View Post
    I don't think it's a hustle for money.
    No, no. Of course it isn't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wysiwyg View Post
    What the frick should I do here?
    It could be love, it could be a hustle, or it could be an infinitely variable combination of both. What should you do? The better question might be: what do YOU think you should do, and what do you think your family/loved ones would want you to do? It seems you are at a crossroads.
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    First, I'm not new to this game. I've hustled strippers and I've been hustled by strippers. In hindsight, I've enjoyed both experiences.

    Crossroads is a word that I've heard a lot lately. Yep, tough call.

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    I posted here to get asked tough questions like that.

    I guess my goal is to figure out this hustle, or maybe try to define if it is one. Hell, I don't know. The girl threw me for a loop.

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    what the frick should you do? tell her to get a fucking life, you are there to enjoy yourself not listen to some teary bitch.

    sorry if that sounds harsh but seriously how ridiculous.

    spend your money on someone fun - you can come to my club, i wont cry ill show you a great time for $1500
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    I think if it were me, I would get a different regular, maybe even a different club. I go to a strip club for fun, not to play head games and experience emotional drama, both of which I can get at home for free.

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    I would suggest:
    a) it's a hustle for money
    b) it's a hustle for more money - maybe she's expecting to be your paid girlfriend or something or
    c) she's emotionally unstable.

    What the fuck, man? Who the hell falls in love and cries over a customer they see once every few months? Short answer is - nobody a normal person wants involved in their life. My personal observation, both in the club and here - guys who love drama seek out girls to provide it.
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    Why do you care? I doubt your wife would "let you out" if she thought that instead of just having a good lighthearted time you were getting wrapped up in the emotional life of these beautiful young women...

    Anyway she's probably hustling anyway. If you've got so much game pull yourself together.

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    I think, for the sake of your marriage, you should not go to see this girl again, it sounds like you're falling too deep. she probably wants you to marry her, make some babies, and then take you for all you're worth, or something else equally wacko.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaizaine View Post
    what the frick should you do? tell her to get a fucking life, you are there to enjoy yourself not listen to some teary bitch.

    sorry if that sounds harsh but seriously how ridiculous.
    I could have written this. WTF kind of hustle is that crap?!

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    No shit! I definitely think it is NOT a hustle. This girl is an emotional unstable freak!!! What the hell???

    I think that unless you want an even bigger mess later, you should stop seeing her for REALS. Unless you do want to leave your wife marry her and have a bizzare existence..

    PS- don't let her do free VIPS for you. It s obvious she is only doing that because she likes you and on some level youre taking advantage.
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    She sounds emotionally unstable, most likely BPD, although Sporty would be the expert on that.

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    Whoa. I suppose it COULD be a hustle, though it's like no hustle I've ever heard of. Either she's nuts or this is the beginning of some high-risk, high-payoff scheme that ends with her leaving your body in a drainpipe and taking your car to Mexico. You know her best.

    Either way, dude, spare yourself and your family the potential drama and get out of this wacky situation. Tell her you think it's time for a break. Find another fave, maybe even another club for a while.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wysiwyg View Post
    I don't think it's a hustle for money. We'll go to VIP and she won't let me pay for it. I usually leave with several hundred I would have given her. I'm a business man so I understand the concept of "give some away now to get more later", but I don't think this is the case (or she could be a damn good hustler).
    This is the part that leaves me questioning if it is a hustle. I've been given plenty of free dances, but they are few, mixed in with paid for dances, and clearly meant the same way we give gifts and dinners to customers in an attempt to encourage future business. I'd say though if she is doing whole VIP sessions and not charging you it is unlikely that it is a hustle, but the problem is... as others have said... and that you must know... it is clearly abnormal for someone to fall for another person under the conditions of seeing them once every two months. Still, we see customers falling for strippers over night, so it's not impossible.

    Now I'm a romantic and do believe people can and do mutually fall for each other at first sight (or nearly so), but when it is one sided it can be indicative of someone with emotional problems. As others have said, she may be emotionally unstable, over idolizing people (something that women with BPD often do), and honestly ... it will probably be a mess if you let it go on.

    You did mention you and your buddies come in and spend quite a lot per night, so one other very real possibility is that she is desperately looking for a man to provide her with some form of financial stability, and she sees you as a possible candidate. That would make it a kind of hustle, but not necessarily a conscious one.

    There are other possibilities but those seemed the most likely given what you wrote.

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    Get a new girl. Even if it is a hustle for money its not an enjoyable thing to be around a weeping miserable wreck. Your there to spend cash, have a good time and forget about the harsh realities of life, this girl is just giving you another thing in your life to stress about. Find a new club, a new girl or both.



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    Either a hustler or a clinger...a lose lose situation..

    Get a new one...


    Sidenote: The whole not having to pay for the VIP sessions on a few occassions is unheard of ..well done...
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    Quote Originally Posted by wysiwyg View Post
    Long post on the way...

    Once every couple of months my friends and I will hit a club. Between the 3 of us we'll drop about 5K per visit. I usually spend around $1500. I know it's a lot, but when the wives let us out we play hard.

    We always hit the same club and a couple of us have regular girls we spend the evening with. Well, it all started out fun, but as time has worn on the girl I hang with has gotten very emotional with me. So much so that the last time I went she used the L word and was crying and telling me how sad she was that she couldn't have me.

    I don't think it's a hustle for money. We'll go to VIP and she won't let me pay for it. I usually leave with several hundred I would have given her. I'm a business man so I understand the concept of "give some away now to get more later", but I don't think this is the case (or she could be a damn good hustler).

    There are probably some important details I'm leaving out, but I don't want to write a book here (is it too late?). I'm just really confused. I feel like an asshole for letting this happen, but also know that I cannot wait to see her again.

    What the frick should I do here?
    I think it is either:
    • Hustle. I think this is the most likely explanation.
    • This girl is unstable.
    Why do I say its a hustle? Past Experience, plain and simple. These hustles do exists and I got in one (or two depending on how you count it).

    Experience #1. There was a girl I had seen a few times at a club. She was physically exactly my type. She never talked extras or anything. She worked the day shift at the time. When we would do VIP, I'd pay for 30 minutes and we would spend at least an hour back there. She told me she really liked it. No extras occurred in the VIP either. Anyway, this girl got drunk or did too much coke(I didn't know that at the time) and flew into a tantrum in the dressing room one day before I came in. Anyway, she did come out on the floor finally. She told me what had happened. She said that she was too messed up to drive home. She said I was the only person there she trusted to get her home. She asked me to come back when her shift was over to pick her up. She gave me the private number into the club and asked me to call and check on her. I called back later and talked to her. She asked me to call back again right at the end of her shift. I called, but they said she had up and left. This caused me to turn a blind eye to what had happened and to start agreeing to see this girl OTC.

    Experience #2. Girl that was a friend of girl from experience #1. She and I were seeing each other. Anyway, girl #2 gets her nose broken by former boyfriend. As she calls me screaming over the phone, she is crying and says "I don't know what I was doing when I have such strong love for you." Wow, that was bad news. Girl #2 was always calling after that begging me for money until she could get over having her nose broken. This was bad news. Finally, it was just too much to handle and I told her no. The stories about how bad things were for her kept coming and so did the requests. Finally, the F U bombs started. The ugly messages that were left on my recorder. I didn't figure out the scam until I talked to her mother and she told me how much this girl lies including many of the stories she was telling me. It was only then that I realized how crazy girl #2 was.

    I feel for you wysiwyg, I really do. These are really complicated hustles. They tend to work on people who are honest, want to do the right thing, and not afraid to take risks.

    Run, Run, Run. If you don't, this girl will eventually get to you. I see it a mile away.


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    I agree that it is either the mother of all hustles or she is unstable. Either way if it was me I would move on. As a rule, if a dancer has you confused enough to be asking total strangers questions about her MO on a web site she is probably more trouble than she is worth. Possibly way more. I hope you haven't given her any real-world contact information...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katrine View Post
    She sounds emotionally unstable, most likely BPD, although Sporty would be the expert on that.
    It's called the Unstable Hustle, easy to do if you have BPD. I have many stories like J UnCool's, but he covered the territory efficiently.

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    Wait, wait, wait,

    I have BPD and no one has told me about the unstable hustle yet? I've obviously been taking my advice from the wrong people!
    Somebody instruct me on how to be more like this girl!







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    Quote Originally Posted by CollegeCutie21 View Post
    Wait, wait, wait,

    I have BPD and no one has told me about the unstable hustle yet? I've obviously been taking my advice from the wrong people!
    Somebody instruct me on how to be more like this girl!

    BPD can manifest itself in many ways, its a rather catch-all disorder. Don't apply this situation to yourself, its not about you.

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    ^^^

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    Who cares what it is? Why would you go to a SC where you have to think this hard?

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