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    Im curious WHy do u tip a dancer on stage if you dont want a lapdance from her?

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    Because you are watching the show and that is the polite thing to do. If you don't want to tip, don't watch the show. She's working. If you're watching (i.e. consuming the product- the show) why wouldn't you tip something?

    Oh, and also because you don't want a beer "accidently" dropped in your lap.

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    I'll handle this one, ladies.

    That's a really stupid question. Why does a restaurant make you pay for a drink when you don't want a full meal? Why does an auto shop make you pay for an oil change when you don't want an engine overhaul? Why does an office supply store make you pay for pencils when you don't want a computer?

    I hope none of those comparisons were offensive, it was a really stupid question. Here's a better "stage tipping question".

    At my club when you tip a dancer in her thong, > 90% of the time she will take the money out of her thong and throw it on the stage (because she takes the thong off, or plays with it, or whatever). In this case, is it rude to just throw the tip on the stage in the first place, as long as she's not actually sitting there with her outstretched thong awaiting the tip?

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    Thank you, Everyman.

    And no, it's not rude to just put a tip on stage. I think most dancers would appreciate the fact that you had the decency to tip at the rack before being asked.

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    ^^^^^^
    At the club I go to you can only put the money on the stage. you can't hand it to the dancer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tasteebars View Post
    Im curious WHy do u tip a dancer on stage if you dont want a lapdance from her?
    I disagree with some of the people on here... But a common rule I have heard some of them mention, and one I agree with is: If you're sitting at the stage you need to tip each dancer. I think that is a rule of thumb.

    In my opinion if you're not sitting at the stage, tipping stage dancers is up to you... Although you need to do it a little atleast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Everyman View Post
    I'll handle this one, ladies.

    That's a really stupid question. Why does a restaurant make you pay for a drink when you don't want a full meal? Why does an auto shop make you pay for an oil change when you don't want an engine overhaul? Why does an office supply store make you pay for pencils when you don't want a computer
    Last time I checked those things usually had a listed price, it wasn't up to the descretion of the customer to leave a TIP.

    This is not a stupid question everyman, don't be a suckup.

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    Customers go to the strip club to be entertained and stage shows are part of that entertainment. As such, it is customary to tip for their performance

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    Quote Originally Posted by jester214 View Post
    Last time I checked those things usually had a listed price, it wasn't up to the descretion of the customer to leave a TIP.

    This is not a stupid question everyman, don't be a suckup.
    I thought he meant if he was at her stage. You always have to tip then, so it would be a stupid question. I don't tip every dancer who works every stage when I'm in a club -- which would be pretty darn hard to do in a multi-stage club anyhow.

    But if you play, you pay. As a dancer said to me (nicely) the other day when she thought I was leaving her stage without tipping (I was just standing up to get the $$ out of my pocket), "you have to tip me, sweetie."

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    Even if you're NOT at the rack...if you sit a couple rows back, and proceed to watch every set and not tip a dollar to anyone...of course you're going to look like a douchbag. You don't stand in front of a street performer and stare and grin for good while and not tip anything do you? Of course not. It's simply a matter of not wanting to be a cheapass who pervs on nudey shows for free, despite how very lame and impolite it is.

    Not interesting in the stage show? Then don't fucking watch. Look the other way and don't tip.


    It's pretty easy to understand.

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    Default Re: Stage Tipping Question

    Hey, if a girl is nice enough to take off her clothes for you, don't you think you ought to be appreciative enough to tip her a few bucks.

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    Rules i have seen POSTED on my way into clubs.

    no fighting
    no under age drinking
    no touching
    no power drinkers
    no weapons
    etc.
    never seen one that said YOU HAD TO TIP...

    as long as i pay my cover and follow the club rules ill do what i want, tip/not tip.. tip a little/ tip a lot.. get no dances/ get lots of dances.

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    There is no sign saying "you have to tip" your waitress either. You still do. When you enjoy a service that is funded through or partially through voluntary gratuity, you are expected to... provide voluntary gratuity after enjoying the service. That is just the way things work. Saying we can't make you... well, that's not an entirely useful way of looking at the issue. It's sort of like being 8 and holding your hand up an inch from your little sister's face and saying "I'm not touching you, I'm not touching you" - and I doubt anyone here is interested in being your little sister.
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    We always do. They are up there and we are gaining entertainment/pleasure from watching them. I feel its only right and the nice thing to do. Everyone should get paid for their time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jenny View Post
    There is no sign saying "you have to tip" your waitress either. You still do. When you enjoy a service that is funded through or partially through voluntary gratuity, you are expected to... provide voluntary gratuity after enjoying the service. That is just the way things work. Saying we can't make you... well, that's not an entirely useful way of looking at the issue. It's sort of like being 8 and holding your hand up an inch from your little sister's face and saying "I'm not touching you, I'm not touching you" - and I doubt anyone here is interested in being your little sister.
    i never said this is how i act at a club. but with the "That's a really stupid question" "Then don't fucking watch" comments just thought i would put in my unwanted 2 cents.

    while my post may not be " well, that's not an entirely useful way of looking at the issue" nether were the others in context of answering the OP's question. at least i gave my opinion and didn't BASH the OP.

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    I think you misunderstand what I mean when I say it is not a useful way of looking at the issue. The 8 year old I compared you to, as he harasses his little sister and says "I'm not touching you" - the fact that he's not touching her is hardly the point, is it? The way he is harassing doesn't involve touching; saying "I'm not touching you" is attempting to artificially circumscribe the ways in which he could be engaging in wrongful behaviour to "touching". In your post you are artificially circumscribing an informal duty to compensate people through gratuity to what you are forced to pay upfront; the fact that we can't make you tip is not the point, and of course, we all already know that and nobody was claiming otherwise. When I say "useful" I don't mean "your choice of language is not the best suited to your audience" (which is, I think, what you mean); I mean, "your mode of analysis is faulty and ill-suited to this situation."

    I disagree actually - I think all the answers were actually answering the OPs question, although perhaps some of the language was unkind (although again - I think the reason they are maybe unkind is simply because the way the question was phrased sounded like girls didn't deserve/shouldn't be tipped for the stage show). The consensus seems to be that you should tip the dancers because they are providing a service that is compensated through tipping and you are enjoying that same service. I think that is a pretty clear answer on why you should tip someone you are not getting dances from.
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    ^^ i gotta you now,
    to tell the truth what i do have a problem with is that Management does not post such rules for customers. i have been made to buy tickets at the front door for drinks[ the ones that have a drink minimum ] why wouldn't they make you buy tickets for dances. anyway thats another topic.

    " The 8 year old I compared you to " now Jenny i always thought of myself as a 10 year old

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    Fine - you can be 10 if you want.
    As for why management doesn't post signs
    a) tipping is generally understood in North America
    b) It's sort of like asking why restaurants don't just add 20% on to all their food and then distribute it to the waitress rather than allowing optional gratuity. Probably because this allows them to offload the cost onto you without seeming to do so. But there is no question that tipping is necessary.

    This is, of course, regionally specific. I don't get stage tips here; of course I spend a total of 10.5 minutes on the stage in an evening.
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    I know a lot of guys tip because they either aren't interested in getting lapdances or can't afford them but still want to show their appreciation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jenny View Post
    Fine - you can be 10 if you want.
    As for why management doesn't post signs
    a) tipping is generally understood in North America
    b) It's sort of like asking why restaurants don't just add 20% on to all their food and then distribute it to the waitress rather than allowing optional gratuity. Probably because this allows them to offload the cost onto you without seeming to do so. But there is no question that tipping is necessary.

    This is, of course, regionally specific. I don't get stage tips here; of course I spend a total of 10.5 minutes on the stage in an evening.
    it is generally understood- that doesn't mean the guys coming in have any money. if management can use the "we have a drink minimum" to weed out the none drinkers. they can use "we have a dance minimum" to weed out the guys with no money.

    I'm friends with the door girl at my regular club and spend time up front with her. i am Constantly Amazed at the number of guys that have to borrow money from friends or pay with change just to get in. or better yet the club closes at 2 AM so the club drops the cover at 1:30 and they will stand there 10-15 minutes waiting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iseestars View Post
    I know a lot of guys tip because they either aren't interested in getting lapdances or can't afford them but still want to show their appreciation.
    Bingo.


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    Thanks to the peeps who tried to find an answer for my stupid question.

    I was reffering to guys who are not close to the stage but come up to tip. I have danced 5 nights total over the last 2 months so a newbie and not full time yet so sorry if there is still some gray area about customer relations. A few times a customer would get up to tip me even while another dancer was sitting with him but later I would go ask him if he wanted company but he didnt. This club is a "wanna dance" club on night shifts and usually if a guy likes me for sure he will get up to tip then wait for me after stage or something so that is what I was used to. The men here dont give us loads of BS I guess because they know there are lots of men they have to compete with who want our dances as well. But what do I know, I am obviously more stupid then I thought

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    Quote Originally Posted by thefrog View Post
    it is generally understood- that doesn't mean the guys coming in have any money. if management can use the "we have a drink minimum" to weed out the none drinkers. they can use "we have a dance minimum" to weed out the guys with no money.
    Then see (b). It is just not the way bars and restaurants work. It doesn't mean that it is socially acceptable, any more than you should go into a restaurant and not tip the waitress and then say "well, if they wanted me to tip they should have added it to my bill." It's just not how it works.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tasteebars View Post
    Thanks to the peeps who tried to find an answer for my stupid question.

    I was reffering to guys who are not close to the stage but come up to tip. I have danced 5 nights total over the last 2 months so a newbie and not full time yet so sorry if there is still some gray area about customer relations. A few times a customer would get up to tip me even while another dancer was sitting with him but later I would go ask him if he wanted company but he didnt. This club is a "wanna dance" club on night shifts and usually if a guy likes me for sure he will get up to tip then wait for me after stage or something so that is what I was used to. The men here dont give us loads of BS I guess because they know there are lots of men they have to compete with who want our dances as well. But what do I know, I am obviously more stupid then I thought
    Sorry, I thought you were a guy questioning the practice of stage tips. I didn't mean to insult you or your question in the manner you asked it.

    In my experience, a guy not sitting at stage can go up and tip when:

    - he appreciates the job you're doing
    - he wants to get your attention
    - he wants to impress whoever he's sitting with
    - it's what he feels like he's supposed to do

    Any or all of the above, and probably a lot more I didn't list.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thefrog View Post
    Rules i have seen POSTED on my way into clubs.

    no fighting
    no under age drinking
    no touching
    no power drinkers
    no weapons
    etc.
    never seen one that said YOU HAD TO TIP...
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