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    Default PCDJ Red sucks!

    It has fucked me more than once, including last night.

    Maybe it's a great program, it has certainly gotten good reviews, but it is almost impossible to figure out how to use. I don't feel like fucking around after work trying to learn--I just got done busting my ass, the last thing I want to do is strain my brain.

    The manual I found was written in that godawful PDF format by some tech geek who has never communicated with fellow humans. I spent about an hour trying to read it and get something out of it, felt like throwing the laptop against a wall, and never looked at it again.

    You cannot search for music at all, not without apparently entering your entire music library somehow I never tried figuring out.

    If you change the name of a music file as I did last night, even if you aren't trying to play that song, but merely add it to a list, it will then crash mid-song, and keep repeatedly crashing in spite of several computer restarts, control panel access/program add/remove repair attempts.

    This means you cannot enter any music from any folder anywhere near the folder containing the file you tried to rename, or the program will crash mid-song. I finally deleted the entire folder and it's OK now.

    You cannot add songs to a dancer's folder directly, you have to laboriously add it to the 'active folder', then add it from that to the one you want. Then you have to carefully delete the song from the 'active folder', or you'll wind up playing AC/DC for a hip-hop girl eventually.


    The worst thing of all, about 2 1/2 months ago it suddenly decided to spontaneously erase all my laboriously collected and compiled dancer folders, right as I was starting a friday night. With a 2 1/2 minute song length (or dancers running to the fucking mummy they called the senior owner bitching about 4-5 minute songs), this fucked me royally. I never did finish rebuilding the folders, before I left that club.

    This may have been because I moved a large folder containing some songs I used frequently from my laptop to my external harddrive. Knowing it would be a pain in the ass to laboriously re-enter those songs, but never anticipating that I would have to repeat the entire process for each and every song I ever played for each and every dancer!


    If I had known it would be anything nearthis bad, I never would have spent 100$ on it, but would have used the free fucking WinAmp program a DJ friend of mine in Daytona has been happily, easily using all this time.


    Anyone tried Tractor? I'm buying a Mac laptop, a really good one, and the new club is getting a Mac with Tractor. I figured I might as well use the same program.
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    Default Re: PCDJ Red sucks!

    Five of the clubs I frequent in Portland just use iTunes, some on Macs, some on Windows. It can queue up songs, cross-fade, and the searching functions are awesome (assuming the songs are all correctly tagged, which iTunes doesn't do well but third-party programs do).

    And WinAmp has been around long enough and has more plug-ins to make it a very full-featured program. I'd think it would be a good choice, too.

    And both of those are free.

    Since I'm not a DJ I'm not sure what benefit or features you would need beyond what iTunes or WinAmp does. What else do you need?
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    OMG Djoser I totally feel you!!

    I work at a lot of bars that use this program and I have to program my own music on it and put myself on stage. I fucking LOATHE it!!!

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    Default Re: PCDJ Red sucks!

    BPM Studio is rock solid but has a very weak search function. I've used if for 4 years without a single hiccup or glitch. I've worked in clubs with bathrooms miles away from the booth so program stability is an important one for me.

    Virtual DJ has the best search feature I've ever used. It's so nice that I'm considering making the switch after all these years.

    PCDJ Red doesn't really seem all that great to me after using it now at the new club but whateva whateva..

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    BPM Studio rocks and I personally never have had a problem with PCDJ RED VRM OR FX....plain PCDJ RED crashes more than arab pilots.

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    hey pm me and ill give ya a helpin hand on red...Ive used it for ....wow.....over 5 years now..........damn....
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    Default Re: PCDJ Red sucks!

    you suck at pcdj.

    just kidding bro, once you have you music catalogged correctly its such a sinch to navigate and use. if you want to learn it more thorough, hit me up and i would be more than happy to help. its all i use at my club and i absolutely LOVE it.

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    I say go with Virtual DJ. We've been using that for years and it is always extremely easy to search the library and add new songs. Its not that expensive, and does a hell of a job. Go for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DJ Steve View Post
    you suck at pcdj.

    just kidding bro, once you have you music catalogged correctly its such a sinch to navigate and use. if you want to learn it more thorough, hit me up and i would be more than happy to help. its all i use at my club and i absolutely LOVE it.
    Haha! But I do, I do!

    The truth of the matter is, I could probably have figured it out eventually, but I would get so fucking fried from working at my last club, the last thing I wanted to do was fuck with a tricky music program after work or on my days off. I have heard good things about it from a lot of people, I just think it takes time to learn how to use it. Like flying a carrier jet, you know--you aren't just going to jump into the thing and take off, lol!

    Thanks for the offers of help! I am buying a Mac laptop in the next few days and I think I'm going to get Tractor, since the club I started at is getting a Mac and tractor, might as well use the same thing.

    But if I delay the purchase, or decide to try and play more in addition to that, with my existing laptop with the PCDJ, I will definitely take you guys up on it!
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    What do you guys think of Apple's ? K really wants it, and I was thinking of getting it for him but there are a couple of negative reviews as well as positive ones... any of you DJ's use it?

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    Default Re: PCDJ Red sucks!

    I've also heard good things about Cerrato (sp?). Some of these programs might be better than others for actual mixing and music production, as opposed to searching for songs, cuing them at the same spot everytime, putting them in dancer folders, etc.

    I might be interested in a program for mixing, actually--though I don't know much about it as of yet.
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    I'm going to have to agree that you suck at PCDJ, sir. I've never had any of the problems you mentioned, and it's quite simple to use. I used Virtual DJ once, and I thought it was annoying. DJ Power was probably the easiest program I ever used but it was full of glitches, too. I don't know what to tell you, I use Red VRM every day at work with very few problems.
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    Dj Power, Love it, Live by it.

    I run a dual CPU system, I have my main system which runs Djpower and has a primary hard drive, and then an external. Then I use a basic laptop with Winamp and i open a SEPERATE window for searches and just use the windows search engine and then drag and drop into the winamp playlist. That totally eliminates any of the updating library problems that most programs run into. Each computer has a external hard drive that has the entire collection on it, then there is a backup system at my home that is the main hub (so i always have backups for the music) I also carry a trunk on my van with backup computer parts, sound cords etc etc... Alot of it is overkill but it has saved my ass a zillion times! Hell I was even crazy enough to install a desktop system in the club, didnt give them my music, but then all i do is just walk in a plug in a drive...eh Im a nerd what can i say...Lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Djoser View Post
    I've also heard good things about Cerrato (sp?). Some of these programs might be better than others for actual mixing and music production, as opposed to searching for songs, cuing them at the same spot everytime, putting them in dancer folders, etc.

    I might be interested in a program for mixing, actually--though I don't know much about it as of yet.
    I use both Serato and Final Scratch (from Traktor) for my basic DJ'ing. Works like a charm! Serato has a slightly more intuitive interface, but for all intents and purposes, both are solid.

    Serato is slightly more stable on MAC, while Final Scratch tends to be more stable w/ PC, from what I've seen.

    There's another program out there, Ableton Live, that some people I know like (tend to used more by house/trance DJs), but that's moreso for production.


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    We been using winamp for ever with no issue's, really like the multiple instance plug-in that let's us have a seperate winamp for each dancer and can program a whole rotation at a time. keep's thing's neat and easy.

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    Gentlemen, GENTLEMEN!!

    Rane Serrato is a cool program, but more for the club/turntableist than your usual strip club dj.

    Hubby has converted every dj he's ever met to this program:

    http://www.atomixmp3.com/

    and now all of them that I know still swear by it.

    YES, I know it's the precursor to Virtual DJ, but if you don't have a lot of room or want a simpler interface (sometimes less is more!); the original is better. Also, sometimes this is a little more reliable than Virtual, in certain circumstances. Shawn still uses this version at Men's Club, and it works great.

    (btw; Men's Club just revamped all the comps in the booth, including the lighting one..whoohoo!)
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    I was ..WAS an advid user of Redvrm UNTIL Vista decided one day it didnt want to work with it anymore so now Im using a basic version of Virtual (much like the one lillit mentioned) only problem is when i scroll through a folder it lags and drives me nuts and the search feature isn't as good but...at least it works,lol.
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    yes, PCDJ red does suck.
    you need to upgrade to PCDJ FX VRM.
    i use it with an external HD usually running 10-14 hours, 7 days a week.
    no problems.
    just make sure you have your music properly organized.

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    Default Re: PCDJ Red sucks!

    Traktor just came out with the newest version. It's pretty sick, been using that for 5 years now.

    Traktor keeps all your music organized, and you don't have to convert anything like ITunes, Plus your music auto fades itself with the settings you choose so it doesn't cut out like WMP or ITunes. Effects are pretty sick if you practice enough on it as well.

    I hate PCDJ of any sort and Virtual DJ is retarded aswell.

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