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    Quote Originally Posted by LoveSexMoney View Post
    If you live in a small town, an hour away is not far enough! Just speaking from experience!
    I'm new, but I totally have to chime in and agree here. I live in a small town, my club is about an hour north of here, and I've had customers from my town come in. The most notable being the guy who works at the Kroger where I buy my groceries all the time. Every time I go through his line now he gets this ridiculous, enormous, shit-eating grin on his face...like he's actively shooting a wad in his boxers.

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    the song of solomon is about marriage and a betrothed, then married couple. it is not advocating sexual expression outside of marriage.

    that is a misleading presentation of that book of the Bible, to say the least. the Bible is quite pro-sex, but within marriage. that is a key distinction.
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    I hope you can help me then because I can not find in the book where it states they are a married couple.

    As for sex outside of marriage there are many examples of that from the most Godly of men like Solomon, David even Abraham.

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    As for how far is far enough, it depends on how many clubs you have in your area. If your club is the closest one to your town, even being an hour away...well thats where everyone is going to be at.

    As for saying that because we don't tell everyone about what we do because somewhere deep inside we do care what people think of us, well I just don't agree. Family of coarse is different, and no they don't know what I do but I'll tell them when family stresses die down. As for anyone else, I usually don't tell them I strip because THEY may have preconceived ideas about what a stripper is and that is NOT me. If I've known someone for a while then I'll tell them. It's not that I care what they think but alot of people have never been to a club and assume the worst and don't give you a chance. It's not them being close minded, their just ignorant and it's doing a disservice to us both to have a relationship be tainted by lies.

    Its kindda the same as meeting someone and they tell you they just got out of a 4 year stint in prison, your gonna be like"uhhh, later" because you have preconceived notions of what they are like. Now if you get to know them and they tell you and explain it was for something really stupid they did like grand theft auto and they tell you it was the most stupid thing they've ever done in their life, it isn't such a big deal.

    The analogy isn't supposed to relate strippers to criminals, it's supposed to relate the taboos associated with them both.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SnakeBabe View Post
    I hope you can help me then because I can not find in the book where it states they are a married couple. As for sex outside of marriage there are many examples of that from the most Godly of men like Solomon, David even Abraham.
    One of the consistent messages throughout the Song of Solomon is that women should wait until marriage to give away their virginity, through the voice of the female narrator. However it does not say that they must, it only says that they should because the sex is that much better if you do. There are no condemnations in the Song of Solomon (or Song of Songs as some call it in certain translations) but there are many recommendations.

    The actual marriage itself occurs midway or so through the song if I remember my readings of it correctly, though the marriage is more implied in most translations than outright stated.

    It can be difficult to make a recently single man pay for sex when he knows that a quick trip to the local watering hole would secure at least one hard drunken tumble for far less cash. It is even more difficult when he is something of a dead ringer for James Bond as played by Daniel Craig and possesses the sort of awkard charm and confidence that brands a man like him as a lady killer.

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    I have read there are several thoughts of who the writers are but
    I never knew it was confirmed it was a female narrator. Where did you read that?
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    I never see the idea that sex is better if you wait. What verses suggest that?
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    You are bringing out the seminarian in me!



    The female narrator begins at the very beginning of the book itself, with the Colloquy of Bride and Friends in which both she and the voices of her friends are the primary singers or narrators. Without getting too into quotes and this and that the Song of Solomon is ultimately spoken or sung by a panopoly of different narrative voices. These voices are the bride, the bridegroom solomon, and the friends of either the bride or bridegroom. So there is no single narrator in the Song of Solomon unless you are looking at it from a third person perspective, in which case the narrator is an unidentified other who speaks for all the characters who appear within the book itself. Keep in mind that when I refer to a narrator I am not speaking about the author or authors of the book, only those literary voices which are narrating the story itself.

    To the other question ... in Song of Solomon 8:4 and several other locations the bride repeats the phrase 'I adjure you, o daughters of Jerusalem, do not stir up or awaken love until it is ready' and although that would not appear to be a recommendation toward marriage in our contemporary times it most likely was so in Biblical times. The people of Jerusalem were extremely bent on both the sanctity of marriage as well as the mandatory production of children within wedlock, and when weighed against the cultural backdrop of the Song of Solomon it is safe to assume that the bride is telling women to wait until marriage not only for sex but also for love itself.

    Although in contrast to that statement, it can also be assumed that both the bride and bridegroom have slept together at least once from their consistent statements about body parts and this or that. The most obvious being the bridegrooms referral to the brides naval being like a cup from which he drinks sweet wine. In fact the original Hebrew tells us that it is not the naval he is speaking about at all and that the actual body part - quite a bit further south if you catch me - was changed in translation to avoid 'tainting' the purity of later Christian populations.

    And now I smell chocolate chip cookies cooking. Time for me to hunt down my sister and make her give me some.

    It can be difficult to make a recently single man pay for sex when he knows that a quick trip to the local watering hole would secure at least one hard drunken tumble for far less cash. It is even more difficult when he is something of a dead ringer for James Bond as played by Daniel Craig and possesses the sort of awkard charm and confidence that brands a man like him as a lady killer.

    - Daisy Loveless, Serving Lunch Weblog

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