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    Hi, I hope this isn't an upsetting topic, but I saw a thread where a dancer who was rubbing her head on the customer's (apparently clothed) crotch was said to be doing "extras." I always thought extras was sex and somebody's genitals had to be directly involved. Have I been getting extras in dances without knowing it?

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    Default Re: What are "extras?"

    Extras are anything that is against club rule. If it's a no contact club and the girl allows you to touch her, that's an extra. If she touches you clothed or not on the crotch that's an extra. If she rubs her boobs on your face and it's against the rules that's an extra.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaiarose View Post
    Extras are anything that is against club rule. If it's a no contact club and the girl allows you to touch her, that's an extra. If she touches you clothed or not on the crotch that's an extra. If she rubs her boobs on your face and it's against the rules that's an extra.
    my club has no rules on contact-- but according to this, it is not an extras club

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaiarose View Post
    Extras are anything that is against club rule. If it's a no contact club and the girl allows you to touch her, that's an extra. If she touches you clothed or not on the crotch that's an extra. If she rubs her boobs on your face and it's against the rules that's an extra.
    Wow, I haven't seen a club with rules like that since the 80s! Are there a lot of no contact clubs left?

    I don't know if I'd still go to clubs if I couldn't at least hug the ladies. I don't need head-on-crotch action, which is usually kind of weird, but I can't see paying $30/dance to watch someone from across the room without touching either. Too much like being married.

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    Default Re: What are "extras?"

    Personally I don't consider what I said to be extras. That's the textbook definition though. My club is a no contact club and I guess I would be very guilty of "extras". I rub my boobs in faces, I'll slide my hand over the pants, I get my butt too close to a custy' face. We're suppose to stay 6 inches away. But I don't consider those extras. My definition is anything sexual: blowjobs, handjobs, sex.
    There are alot of no contact clubs but most girls aren't THAT strict about the rules. Yes of course you can hug them and they can sit on your lap, you may even get a nipple slid across your face in a no contact club. Unfortunately for us we have to keep up with all the naughty girls so some of us bend the rules.

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    Of course there are no contact clubs...in Colorado you supposed to be like a foot away from the customer at all times. Do the girls follow the law? No, of course not, because nobody would pay twenty bucks for an air dance.

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    Yes, WallyT, surprisingly, the rules governing strip clubs are not monolithic and nationalized. Different localities have different rules. For instance, thanks to a generous First Amendment in the Oregon State Constitution, progressive laws, and favorable state Supreme Court rulings, nude dance is a protected form of free speech in my home state. I understand in other jurisdictions clubs that serve alcohol don't have full nudity, necessarily, but in Oregon nearly all of the clubs offer full bars and hot naked girls.

    But the Oregon Liquor Control Commission (OLCC), which regulates the bars, specify no contact with the dancers. So there are a few "juice bars" with naked women that do not have Demon Rum, and apparently contact is higher there.

    That being said... not everyone follows the rules here in Little Beirut. Or so I understand.

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    Default Re: What are "extras?"

    Quote Originally Posted by WallyT View Post
    Are there a lot of no contact clubs left?
    Depends on whether you mean by rule or by practice and what one precisely means by "no contact"? Some guys actually think one way contact dances are airdances because they can't touch.
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    Default Re: What are "extras?"

    If you have to ask youself: "Hmmm, I wonder if this is an extra...?" it probably is lol.

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    They're background people on stage, film, or television, usually added for the sake of authenticity, with non-speaking parts. You don't have to be a member of SAG to be one.

    Hope this helps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doc-catfish View Post
    Depends on whether you mean by rule or by practice and what one precisely means by "no contact"? Some guys actually think one way contact dances are airdances because they can't touch.
    Good point. Our club is this way. No duration limit on grinding (although apparently that's up to the manager's discretion ) and the girls can touch the customers; the customers can touch legs, belly, neck but no "red zone" areas. But I'm sure that this is too non-contacty for a lot of customers.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ook View Post
    They're background people on stage, film, or television, usually added for the sake of authenticity, with non-speaking parts. You don't have to be a member of SAG to be one.

    Hope this helps.
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    Like others have said, "extras" vary widely by area. For example, fondling boobs would be an extra lots of places, but in the St. Louis area it's pretty much the first thing the dancer initiates in a stage show when she grabs your hands/arms. In this heavy contact market, "extras" pretty much only involve genitals -- touching from either party, (although the dancer touching the customer is extremely common and hard to consider an "extra" anymore) -- and going beyond touching, the standard things you can do with genitals.
    I would also consider "make out" kissing to be an extra -- it certainly is not a standard menu item in any club, but it does happen from time to time depending on the girl. This one would seem to be more girl-specific than vary by region.

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    Extras are anything that is against club rule.
    This is only true if you're a dancer. If you're a customer, extras are activities including, but not limited to: HJ, BJ, FS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Casual Observer View Post
    This is only true if you're a dancer. If you're a customer, extras are activities including, but not limited to: HJ, BJ, FS.
    How is that inconsistent with what she said? I'm asking because it seems like you've just given examples of things that could be assumed to be against club rules, without limiting "extras" to those things. It seems to be pretty much the same thing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pan Dah View Post
    Somehow it seems coming up with a meaningful and usable definition of "extra" is like coming up with a meaningful and usable definition of "crime".
    Well, that is more or less my personal definition of "extras". Basically anything that the law (which varies through out the USA and the rest of the world) does not allow, thus making it every bit as hard to define as "crime"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Everyman View Post
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    I would also consider "make out" kissing to be an extra -- it certainly is not a standard menu item in any club, but it does happen from time to time depending on the girl. This one would seem to be more girl-specific than vary by region.
    Quote Originally Posted by Casual Observer View Post
    This is only true if you're a dancer. If you're a customer, extras are activities including, but not limited to: HJ, BJ, FS.
    I think we've got to add Everyman's example to the list. It certainly is extra special. Several ladies at one of my regular clubs have started kissing me during dances and it is one of the few things that makes me buy dance after dance just to keep the makeout session going.

    Damn - I'm so easy.

    I don't see anyone jumping up to say the back-of-the-head-job is an extra extra read all about it. Whew, maybe I'm just not that pervy.

    Thanks for the definition Ook, is that everywhere or just in Hollywood that they don't sag?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaiarose View Post
    Extras are anything that is against club rule. If it's a no contact club and the girl allows you to touch her, that's an extra. If she touches you clothed or not on the crotch that's an extra. If she rubs her boobs on your face and it's against the rules that's an extra.
    then you girls would hate me, because that statement makes me an extras girl.

    extras to me are anything out of the pants getting messed with, penetration of any sort yadayada.

    boob touching is standard to me, and it doesn't bother me AT ALL. heavy grinding either. i guess since it's the norm here and it's what i learned to do, i don't see anything wrong with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corgan View Post
    then you girls would hate me, because that statement makes me an extras girl.

    extras to me are anything out of the pants getting messed with, penetration of any sort yadayada.

    boob touching is standard to me, and it doesn't bother me AT ALL. heavy grinding either. i guess since it's the norm here and it's what i learned to do, i don't see anything wrong with it.
    She specifically said "if its a no contact club". Touching boobs is standard here too, as is heavy grinding. It isnt an extra HERE. Extras are things that arent standard, that arent allowed by the club or the law so forth. So if your club doesnt allow any contact, and a girl lets a guy touch her boobs..shes an extras girl. If the club allows it and it is standard it isnt extra. Here in the land of super high contact...extra is anything sexual. HJ,BJ,FS,letting a guy finger you or lick your pussy...thats extra here. An Anything else is standard.

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    ^ gotcha.

    but if it's a no contact club then how can girls even get away with it?? oh wait... nevermind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corgan View Post
    then you girls would hate me, because that statement makes me an extras girl.

    extras to me are anything out of the pants getting messed with, penetration of any sort yadayada.

    boob touching is standard to me, and it doesn't bother me AT ALL. heavy grinding either. i guess since it's the norm here and it's what i learned to do, i don't see anything wrong with it.


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    Different definition in the UK.

    An extra would be defined as hj, bj or fs - and the girls giving them might sometimes describe themselves as 'blue' girls.

    Stepping outside of the rules for the venue doesn't seen to be considered an extra.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cameron_keys View Post
    Here in the land of super high contact...extra is anything sexual. HJ,BJ,FS,letting a guy finger you or lick your pussy...thats extra here. An Anything else is standard.
    I hate to even ask this b/c I feel like a perv and I'm really not but what about an HJ thru the pants? Purely for the sake of a more accurate answer there was no....finish. It was from a girl I ended up having long OTC relationship with but we hadn't gotten there yet. We were still at the getting to know each other stage and I guess that's why I'm asking. If that makes sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AtomicPunk View Post
    I hate to even ask this b/c I feel like a perv and I'm really not but what about an HJ thru the pants? Purely for the sake of a more accurate answer there was no....finish. It was from a girl I ended up having long OTC relationship with but we hadn't gotten there yet. We were still at the getting to know each other stage and I guess that's why I'm asking. If that makes sense.
    i'd say that's clearly illegal in most places, but so is most hard-friction grinding.

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    Well I know the rules are a lot more free down here. I also know girls don't all go by the same rules and don't know her personally so can't make a personal judgment. I was just looking for a general idea for this area.
    Like I said we were still at the getting to know you stage but at least I thought it was clear it was headed towards OTC at that point. I'm basically asking a general opinion so I can figure out if it was obvious to her too it heeaded towards OTC, or if that was the norm for her and I was still being treated as the average customer. BTW she didn't do it during a dance we were just standing at the bar talking. Just to be clear it was normal not an OTC biz relatiionship
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