Um, is it really necessary to come into this thread and tell people to STFU? That wouldn't be cool in ANY thread.
And how many fucking non USA'ers need to come in here and spoil our thread? If we wanna fucking gripe about gas because WE are used to much cheaper gas, then so fucking be it! Excuse the fuck out of us for being shocked; it's not our fault you've been paying out the nose for years. Don't take it out on us....





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you can only survive by clinging onto trees
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put down some roots so you can stand on your own
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BG, you seem so bitter today. Are you ok, hon?
Gypsy was only trying to help and be nice. She didn't know you don't dance anymore, and your reply was so scarastic and rude.
I noticed a few of your threads the past few days have been bitter. I know you have a lot going on right now, so here's aKeep your chin up.
My reply was not sarcastic and rude. It may have sounded like that because she can't hear the tone of my voice.
And I'm annoyed....people get to rant about stuff all the time on here and we accept it; all of a sudden Americans as a group want to rant and we have to all STFU, we have it so easy, etc? If this was a personal thread, that kind of response would be seen as rude and unkind...how is this any different? We can't rant anymore because we are a group or something?
So...we're spoiled.....? THAT constitutes responses from Aussies and Europeans we've seen CONSTANTLY in this thread?
It's especially annoying and insulting when people like me in the US who ARE driving little cars with good mileage, working jobs we can, doing the best we can and still struggling, are told to STFU because "you don't have it bad". Well excuse me! Who are you to tell me it isn't bad?It is bad for me! So...I wouldn't be able to afford gas in Australia, so I'm NOT struggling here?
I'm sorry, this got more personal than I intended, but the point was not all Americans that are 'whining' are dumbasses who are spoiled and entitled.





When the day is done a thread is just a thread. People can have their opinions about Americans. And its just that ...an opinion and its ok.
you live like an ivy vine
you can only survive by clinging onto trees
that's your flaw
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I'm sorry, I'm the wet blanket tonight, jokes are lost on me.
I guess my life situation has really caught up with me this week and this thread reminded me of that.
Sorry.





I wasn't serious. I was just teasing. I didn't mean it harshly at all.![]()
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I know.





All I know is that I submitted my log book a few years ago in re this current car which makes everything regarding it tax deductible.. and I submit all my expenses etc (thru using MYOB) to my accountant.. and I get as much deducted as possible... oi.. see my current mood at the time of my post.. it was (is) tired.
me no thinky straight.
regardless, the "yanks" are still bitching about nothing IMO.
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^ it's not bitching about nothing.
If we are used to paying a certain amount for gas, and then that amount goes up, we feel it in our wallets. Just because it isn't as high as what your paying doesn't mean it still doesn't sting.
If someone on a budget allows $80 a month for gasoline in their car, but then that has to increase to $100, that money has to come from somewhere. It really stings in the wallet of those on a budget to scramble to compensate for the increase.
Becides, it's all relative. Didn't I read on here somewhere that minimum wage over there is like $20 an hour or something? Min. wage here is $6.15 I think. That's a big ass difference.





Calm down, everyone. Yes, gas is expensive. Dur.
So- How long do I need to live in another country before I can start talking shit?
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Aren't you an expatriate American, Lysondra? I'm certain you'll correct me if necessary. I hold dual citizenship but I identify myself as an American.
IMO, this thread is actually about more than just Yanks whining, because the Iraq War is having a global effect on fuel supplies. The actual amount of fuel consumed by the Iraq War effort is now classified information, and vast amounts of fuel are being consumed 24/7 by vehicles that make our scorned Hummers seem like hybrids by comparison.
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I remember from my childhood the prices my father paid to fill up his car.. it was way under a dollar a litre. Goodness! Even my boyfriend at the time before I started stripping so this is many MANY years ago commented about how he would over-joyed if the price of petrol went up so it would make us all us less (hahaha! we won't use less.. if anything we are using more as there are more people on the roads incl taxis and buses!)... oi.. the good old days.
The only reason I said STFU is because seriously it is only going to continue to go up as the supply is finite ... and the demand is increasing.. and it is just too easy to not keep putting the price up.. rant away.. however just take into account that other people from other countries do have it "harder" than you.. so it may be seen as a little self indulgent if you get me.
You don't have to rant about everything on here. Sometimes it pays to bite your tongue.
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It's confusing. Min wage should be, in general, $20 an hour if you're over 21 but... rent is cheaper, electronics are WAY more (my phone was $800, my TV was $600, my Nintendo DS was $200), food is way more ($30 avg. per meal)... Ikea costs less, cars cost more, petrol costs more, electricity costs more. Hell, it seems everything costs more but rent and Ikea.
Also $20AUD = ~$16USD
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Work like a dog
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Anybody who thought this war would bring lower gas prices was crazy.
So not only do we have the disruption of oil supply, but we have we've had close to a 40% dollar devaluation to fund the war.
Hit from both ends.
Gas isn't the only thing that has risen tremendously in price, but gas is something we notice for the price for every time we go outside because of how ever-present the price signs are.
I see myself as a citizen of California if anything. There is no honor in being a cheerleader for the Washington Empire.
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Also, you foreigners provide me with much laughter already in the way you allow your wallets to be raped with 2 dollar a liter gas taxes in some places.
Maybe if you complained more, you could keep more of your own money.
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It does work. Every time they propose a higher gas tax, it's a political nightmare.Originally Posted by Lysondra
The spot price of gas is the roughly the same world wide. The major price difference is caused by higher gas taxes. Offhand, the pump price of gas in France is 70% taxes. In California, USA, it's about 19%.
To be honest, the oil companies are not as bad as people think they are. They do a pretty good job considering energy is our most regulated market.Originally Posted by sinder
Gas has to be rationed somehow and the price is the best way to do it.
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^^^
nicely done....what I think most people in the country do not seem to understand is tht oil is a limited supply. And that oil is used in different ways, so oil is not just gasoline, but, its in plastics, heating oil, power plants, etc.
Back to the point, people have been so accustomed to cheap oil here that they think it is a right.
I'm also sure a majority of those people are while not against renewable energeny, don't want to spend the money on it.
There has to be a breaking point somewhere, and it will be with the consumer...





Cheap oil is not a right, but why should we pay more than necessary due to politics?
People complain because they intuitively suspect(or have good knowledge) that the oil price is NOT just a function of market exchange. Politics plays a major role in the price of all goods, unfortunately.
We use most of the Oil because we CAN use it. A lot of countries don't even have paved roads. We also take up a huge area geographically of land that is useful to humans. Not too many people moving around in Siberia or the various vast deserts in Eurasia and North Africa.
Renewable or not, the main factor is price. It makes zero economic sense to switch an energy resource that is very expensive when oil is still COMPARATIVELY cheap. There is also little fear of running out of oil. Companies just don't invest in finding more expensive locations when there are cheaper wells to be exploited.
The breaking point will be when the public realizes the government is to blame and decides states were a bad idea.
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