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    grrrrrrrrrr this is my best friend growing up, although we've grown apart, i still love her, but this REALLY pisses me off. she's in the bible belt and has turned into this baptist bible thumping bigot it seems....i need help with replying to this.....



    Subject: Christians need to see this



    CAN MUSLIMS BE GOOD AMERICANS?
    This is very interesting! We all need to read it from start to finish ... and send it on to anyone who will read it.

    Maybe this is why our American Muslims are so quiet and not speaking out about any atrocities.

    Can a good Muslim be a good American?


    This question was forwarded to a friend who worked in Saudi Arabia for 20 years.

    The following is his reply:

    Theologically – no …Because his allegiance is to Allah, The moon God of Arabia.

    Religiously - no. . . . Because no other religion is accepted by His Allah except Islam (Quran, 2:256) (Koran).

    Scripturally - no…Because his allegiance is to the five Pillars of Islam and the Quran.

    Geographically - no… Because his allegiance is toMecca, to which he turns in prayer five times a day.

    Socially - no. ..Because his allegiance to Islam forbids him to make friends with Christians or Jews.

    Politically - no. . . Because he must submit to the mullahs (spiritual leaders), who teach annihilation of Israel and destruction ofAmerica, the great Satan.

    Domestically - no. . . . Because he is instructed to marry four women and beat and scourge his wife when she disobeys him (Quran&nb sp;4:34).

    Intellectually - no. . . Because he cannot accept the American Constitution since it is based on Biblical principles, and he believes the Bible to be corrupt.

    Philosophically - no. . . . Because Islam, Muhammad, and the Quran do not allow freedom of religion and expression. Democracy and Islam cannot co-exist. Every Muslim government is either dictatorial or autocratic.

    Spiritually - no. . . . Because when we declare "one nation under God," the Christian's God is loving and kind, while Allah is NEVER referred to as Heavenly father, nor is he ever called love in The Quran's 99 excellent names.

    Therefore after much study and deliberation, perhaps we should be very suspicious of ALL MUSLIMS in this country.
    They obviously cannot be both "good" Muslims and good Americans.

    * * * Call it what you wish; it's still the truth.

    * * * You had better believe it.

    * * * The more who understand this, the better it will be for our country and our future. The religious war is bigger than we know or understand.
    And Barack Hussein Obama, a Muslim, wants to be our President?
    You HAVEto be kidding?! Wake upAmerica!

    Obama even says if he wins the election, he will
    be sworn in on the Quran (Koran)---not the Bible!

    PLEASE, please pass this to all in your address book. Every red blooded American needs to read this.

    God Bless American!!!





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    Default Re: just got this email from friend and it pisses me off...need help with replies...

    Your friend is an idiot. Ask her to provide you with one reputable cite that says Barack Obama is a muslim. And introduce her to Snopes. http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/muslim.asp

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    Well, for one thing, Obama isn't a Muslim, and I seriously doubt he said he would be sworn in on the Koran. I'm not an Obama supporter but he does have more sense than that, it would be political suicide to say such a thing and anyway he's definitely a Christian (though his church apparently supports Louis Farrakhan, which is another issue, but Obama took pains to distance himself from Farrakhan).

    As for the rest of it, people said the same thing about Catholics when JFK was running for president. Catholics can't be good Americans, their allegiance is to the Vatican and not America, they put the Pope before the law, they're not real Christians because they worship the Virgin Mary, yadda yadda. There have always been small-minded people and there always will be.

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    But I thought Obama wasn't Muslim and those photos were taken when he was in traditional clothes on a trip to Kenya?

    ^^ We posted at the same time....

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    Quote Originally Posted by AudreyLeigh View Post
    But I thought Obama wasn't Muslim and those photos were taken when he was in traditional clothes on a trip to Kenya?
    Yes, that is where those photos came from.

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    Grrrr...idiots like that and messages like that infuriate me

    People who believe that stuff seem to be the same types who think jews make matzoh out of christian babys blood

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    Theologically – ADJECTIVE: Of or relating to theology or to specialized religious study. What does this have to do with being an American?

    Religiously - FREEDOM OF CHOICE

    Scripturally - FREEDOM OF CHOICE

    Geographically - The only people that can actually geographically aliened to this country are native American Indians. Even they immigrated centuries ago.

    Socially - FREEDOM OF CHOICE

    Politically - no. . . Because he must submit to the mullahs (spiritual leaders), who teach annihilation of Israel and destruction of America, the great Satan. Now this is bullshit because before our country existed there were Muslims and this rule never existed. It is not a Muslim issue, it's the minds of the people who hate us. The Israel issue is like ours and Mexico's.

    Domestically - no. . . . Because he is instructed to marry four women and beat and scourge his wife when she disobeys him (Quran&nb sp;4:34).There are some Mormon, Jewish, and CHRISTIANS that believe in polygamy. As for beating their wives, there are white CHRISTIAN men in prison for doing just that.

    Intellectually - no. . . Because he cannot accept the American Constitution since it is based on Biblical principles, and he believes the Bible to be corrupt.Most of the American Constitution is out dated. Most of the bible is corrupt, it includes prostitution, polygamy, incest, sexism, ect.

    Philosophically - no. . . . Because Islam, Muhammad, and the Quran do not allow freedom of religion and expression. Democracy and Islam cannot co-exist. Every Muslim government is either dictatorial or autocratic.This statement is also untrue. Elections in Pakistan.

    Spiritually - no. . . . Because when we declare "one nation under God," the Christian's God is loving and kind, while Allah is NEVER referred to as Heavenly father, nor is he ever called love in The Quran's 99 excellent names. There are people trying to change the 'under god' statement. Freedom of religion means to choose and worship how you please. What about the Atheists? As for Allah, is referred to than more than 99 names.


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    Um... I would keep it short and concise and ask her to keep her bigoted spam email to herself. I don't have a lot of patience for people who are all "it's so mean to call me racist just because I'm racist" and that is clearly.... racial and religious intolerance.
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    Default Re: just got this email from friend and it pisses me off...need help with replies...

    "Christians" who forward this email are breeders of ignorance.

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    Snopes is your friend.
    Idealism is fine, but as it approaches reality, the costs become prohibitive.

    William F. Buckley, Jr.

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    Default Re: just got this email from friend and it pisses me off...need help with replies...

    thanks to everyone so far, espcially gemini, that's exactly what i was looking for.

    i'm getting so tired of her "forward this" emails...most are christian based "i'm praying for you" type crap...why is she praying for me? i'm not doing anything "wrong", i'm happily married, with 3 healthy kids, own our house, 2 cars, a boat and my own thriving business?

    when i told her i was teaching pole dancing, she goes "oh, huh" pretty much her undertones were like "omg, i can't believe she's doing this, she's practically a stripper prostitute!" yet i know she dances "sexy" for her husband, so why can't i teach women how to?

    it makes me sad to see how far apart we've grown. but i can't deal with her "christian" beliefs. i'm not really any religion, but i'm open to what is or could be "out there" she's sooo judgmental now, it's really sad.

    we had an abortion discussion about 10 yrs ago, me i don't like it, but if you have to do it, you have to do it..her, never under ANY circumstances should it be allowed (even in the case of the mother could die or incest).... we literally fought about it, then she gives me this pity remark "oh summer, i'm really disappointed, i thought you were a christian" not sure where she got that idea, i have never said i was, i didn't go to church, so what makes her think i am, just because she is?

    i'm gonna respond back to her with all of the info ya'll gave me, but i have a feeling she'll put her christian goggles on and refuse to believe it. i hate closed minded people!!!!!





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    Why be friends with her if she's going to continue to be this obnoxious?

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    I'd just forward her what jenny and gemini said, as well as the snopes link. Then I'd tell her I'm blocking her email.
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    This person is your friend...why?

    ETA: All three of us had the same thought!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dottie Rebel View Post
    This person is your friend...why?

    ETA: All three of us had the same thought!
    and for a very good reason I think!!!

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    well, you have to understand, we were best friends since like 12 yrs old. i really do love her and for the most part, she's a good person that does good things. i'm just tired of these emails. i already told her a year ago about the snopes thing. she JUST got a computer last year or so, so she hasn't quite learned all the "don't believe everything you read online" thing i guess. she's fairly gullible i think.

    we don't really talk much anymore, but i can't bring myself to totally cut her off, she was like my sister growing up and i love her and her family. we've both helped each other through some rough times.

    i think i'll just give her all of this info and tell her she needs to be careful what she's spreading, cause most of it is lies. and to not send me stuff like that anymore. but part of me wants her to keep sending me stuff, just so i can prove her wrong, since she ALWAYS has to be right, lol





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    proving her wrong won't change anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dottie Rebel View Post
    This person is your friend...why?

    ETA: All three of us had the same thought!
    Great minds think alike

    Sassy, maybe you need to take a really long break from her. There's nothing wrong with becoming close acquaintances, or just friends that aren't that close anymore. It's not just emails; it seems like she's the source of un needed drama in you life.

    Just because you don't want to deal with her doesn't mean you don't like her.

    Honestly it sounds like she really just doesn't fit into your life anymore, and that's OK too. No need to completely forget her; just know she has seemed to become a friend who while you're friendly with her once in a while, there's really no sense in trying to deal with her radical ways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lola Rose View Post
    proving her wrong won't change anything.
    Quoted for truth. It's the hardest lesson to learn. At least it was for me. And it's double-plus true on the internet.
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    The Christian god is loving and kind?? Guess the whole Old Testament can just be dismissed then..you know..the whole flood the world and kill everyone god didnt like, hellfire and damnation,etc...etc..

    As it says in the word of God in Romans 12:19 "Beloved, never avenge yourselves, but leave it to the wrath of God, for it is written, �Vengeance is mine, I will repay, says the Lord.

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    My response to stufff like this is to simply reply in the title."Do not send me bollocks like this." And it seems to work even if people remain bigots.
    You can substitute the "bollocks" for "rubbish" if you want (-:

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrunetteGoddess View Post
    Great minds think alike

    Sassy, maybe you need to take a really long break from her. There's nothing wrong with becoming close acquaintances, or just friends that aren't that close anymore. It's not just emails; it seems like she's the source of un needed drama in you life.

    Just because you don't want to deal with her doesn't mean you don't like her.

    Honestly it sounds like she really just doesn't fit into your life anymore, and that's OK too. No need to completely forget her; just know she has seemed to become a friend who while you're friendly with her once in a while, there's really no sense in trying to deal with her radical ways.


    i pretty much have done that already. i don't call her my "best friend" anymore. she lives in louisiana and i'm washington, so there's plenty of space, lol

    but as far as proving her wrong, i've ALWAYS love doing that to her, just cause it gets her all riled up, lol...kinda like a good friend of mine that will say something off the wall just to get me rise out of me, it's all in good fun. it's just a funny dynamic we have in our relationship.

    i'm just looking for a good way to responds to this stupid email other than 'nuh uh!, that's not true" i'm kind of hoping to open her eyes a bit, can't blame me for trying!





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    I'd just say...

    "Look, we have different beliefs and I think this email was a bit offensive and ridiculous. So please refrain from spamming me with this kind of material, otherwise I will be forced to block continuing emails from you. Thanks for understanding! "

    That's what I would say.

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    Ditto on 100% of the above posts. And I love that the whole thing ends with a typo. "God Bless American!" Uh, American what?

    So yeah. Consider the source - as in whoever she got this forward from. If she believes that crock, you should forward her some classics about kidney thieves and $1,000 cookie recipes.
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    I'm sorry but I wouldn't email her back. An email like this would be enough for me to blacklist this friend forever. She is narrow minded and ignorant and in my experience nothing you say to people like this will change their opinions.



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