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    Ugh... I'm kind of stuck on how to handle this situation with my regular.

    A little background: I used to give my phone number to "promising" customers, with the instructions that it was to be used only to talk about when we would meet at the club. I got pretty tired of my phone ringing all the time (boys can't follow instructions apparently) so I opened an email address specifically for work. Now I only give my phone number to people after they have had my email, and they're coming in at least once, if not twice, a week. There aren't many that have my number now, which is fine. The customers I see less often, their email comes to my phone anyway, I just don't have to answer it right away.
    Sorry if that was confusing.

    Anyway, This one custie has been coming to the club for years. He really liked this one girl, but after she left he quickly needed a new ATF. He's pretty into kinky, BDSM stuff, as am I. The girls know to send the hard core "I want a beating" customers my way, so they did. He immediately loved me. *grins*
    He of course got the email address. About a month later, I was seeing him about once or twice a week and he invited me to a concert. He got the phone number, I went and had a great time. We text a few short messages every day, and about every two or three days have a phone conversation.

    Now the problem is, I haven't seen him in almost two weeks. (He's good CR money, and I could really use that money!) He's been making all kinds of excuses. Like saying he'll be there, then not showing up, and waiting till the next day to call with the excuse, really stupid stuff.
    Now, if he can't, or just doesn't want to come in that's fine. But he's making excuses like telling the truth would hurt my feelings or something. The biggest reason why it pisses me off is because I don't want to put energy into being cute with him on a daily basis, even if it is only five or ten minutes, if he's not backing it up with money in the club.

    My question now is, how do I get the point across that it's not okay to contact me all the time if you're not interested in paying me? I honestly don't believe he's being all, I like you, or anything, we talk about our SO's together, and he treats me very much like we are just doing business. I don't want to lose him, he's a well-paying, super fun regular (when he is regualar)

    Any ideas?






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    Default Re: Talky talky with now payey payey

    yeah, I meant for the title to say no, not now






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    Stop answering his calls until he comes back in. If he asks why you havent been answering,just say you've been SUPER busy and KNEW you'd see him in a day or two anyway since he SAID he was coming in....

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    Once you give a customer one day for free, he thinks he doesn't have to pay you any more. To him that means you are friends. Next time charge for going to a concert.

    As for now, follow cam's excellent advice and hopefully he'll fall back in line.

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    Oh, should have made the concert part clear.
    Got the concert ticket, dinner, and then we went to the club to hang out. Gave me 500 while we were in the club...






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    Quote Originally Posted by CollegeCutie21 View Post
    Anyway, This one custie has been coming to the club for years...and he invited me to a concert. He got the phone number, I went and had a great time. We text a few short messages every day, and about every two or three days have a phone conversation.

    Now the problem is, I haven't seen him in almost two weeks. (He's good CR money, and I could really use that money!) He's been making all kinds of excuses. Like saying he'll be there, then not showing up, and waiting till the next day to call with the excuse, really stupid stuff.
    Me thinks going with him to the concert made your custie think there was the possibility of an OTC friendship/relationship.

    He's now reluctant to pay for CR's because, having seen you outside of work, it seems to him to be a retrograde step to just go back to handing over $$$'s for your time.

    "Date the dancer" syndrome is a powerful motive for a guy to spend money on a dancer ITC, but one of the pitfalls/problems from your POV is that one OTC meeting raises the expectations of more.

    I suspect you're going to have to use the carrot and stick approach - the carrot being the prospect of another OTC evening, and the stick that he'll have to spend money on you ITC before you meet him OTC again.

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    Never see a custie outside of work without getting payed.. your missing work, right? *grin*


    I know you said yout got your cash, just stating for the record. If you don't see your reg when he promises - be unavaliable.

    Just that simple. He'll either get the hint or move on. There is always another.

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    I wouldn't answer the phone. This happened to me when I used to give out my number before I became more involved with my guy. A lot of nonsense calls about dating me or just wanting to "talk."
    I just stopped answering the calls. The guys got the hint.
    This saved me from having to screen calls, listen to lame excuses on the phone and sorry to lose the money, but some guys are too persistent with something they just aren't going to get.
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    it is possible that from his perspective, paying for the concert and dinner was not paying you for work. and paying you the 500 afterwards in the club was just being polite. then you failed to followup with additional OTC suggestions, which may well be why you are no longer getting money from him, as he is stringing you along with CS.

    some customers break things like that up in their heads and penalise you for it later. he is probably no good for money now. there is some chance you can continue getting money if you are blunt with him, but it is not likely as you've laid out the situation.

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    Thanks everyone for your advice. I probably could have left the whole concert part out, because it happened about three months ago. He was still continuing to spend money up until recently. I just included it to show when he got the phone number.
    Regardless I appreciate everyone's advice. I really want to approach this correctly, if not for the money, then at least because he really is my fave reg.

    Quote Originally Posted by cameron_keys View Post
    Stop answering his calls until he comes back in. If he asks why you havent been answering,just say you've been SUPER busy and KNEW you'd see him in a day or two anyway since he SAID he was coming in....
    Thanks a bunch Cameron for your advice, this is definitely going to be the approach I take. Since he's been coming in the club for about six years, I know he'll be back. I'll just be patient.






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    1. Agree with Cam that you should stop spending so much time on the phone with him.....maybe don't get his calls for a couple days....then if he STILL doesn't show up at work I would send him a text like....

    "When do I get to see your smiling face ? I miss you!!! "

    Just make it like you want to see him and be all cute-ie-batoo-tie about it. People naturally don't like to dissapoint. Just stress how he makes you happy and puts you in a good mood, which sounds true anyway....

    Is there any chance his financial situation took a bad turn? That could be it too
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    Perhaps you stopped spending money on her. Strippers need money to operate. They are like coin operated juke-boxes of love.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cameron_keys View Post
    Stop answering his calls until he comes back in. If he asks why you havent been answering,just say you've been SUPER busy and KNEW you'd see him in a day or two anyway since he SAID he was coming in....
    That is exactly what I would do. I've given my number to some good customers before and I've had them "abuse" the priviledge by calling all the time just to chat. I just wouldn't answer the phone unless it was the day before I went in to work. Then I'd be like, "So, are you coming in tomorrow? Yes? Okay, see you there!" If they didn't come in, I simply wouldn't answer their calls until they did. If they're coming in regularly and they call maybe once every week "just to chat", that's okay with me and I "reward" them by talking (although I still don't answer sometimes).
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    I exchange numbers with my "fans" regularly. In the region where I work it is very helpful to line up as many guys as possible who will buy 4-5 dances or more.

    Some customers whom I have known for a while are worthy of some periodic phone chat. My daddy regular I speak to 7 days a week. He expects it, but he is also sends me money, pays my cell phone bill monthly, reimburses me for shopping trips, etc.

    Some guys who come to see me when I'm booked once a month who have done so for a few years I will chat with, others who start calling too often I will avoid if they haven't been coming to see me in the club, or if I feel they are wanting to bypass the club.

    You really have to just go with the flow. Going to a concert with a customer like this can be construed as a date. It's not the same as just having lunch. You'll just have to see how it plays out. Try to avoid OTC meetings with him now and focus on steering him to the club and if he doesn't bite, or he does and is obviously growing reluctant to buy dances, you've lost this guy. Just move on.

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    That's the problem with letting guys have a way to reach you outside the club, they think it's like scoring the number of a "regular girl" in a bar. Just like they woo regular girls with nice dates and presents, once they've "got it" they stop being Prince Charming.

    I used to have a stripper phone and an email address, now it's just not worth it. If they're into you, they'll come and find you at the club. Let them know your schedule. If you communicate with them outside the club, they take you for granted and feel like you REALLY want them. They test you. Guys want to chase, let them! You make yourself too available by giving them a way to contact you. They always need to treat you like a stripper, and by that I mean PAY YOU!

    Regulars come and go from one girl to another. Even if you lose this guy, I assure you another one is on the way.

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    If he is into abuse it is possible he is wanting you to "punish" him for being a bad boy and missing appointments....


    Vanilla guys just need to be put in line and Cameron's advice is right on. He'll either come back to the club or move on.

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