If it were just this, I would agree, but then she said this:
That is a form of anorexia and it's not healthy. This "diet" is straying back into that territory. It's dangerous, and it'll slow down her metabolism to the point that she won't be able to maintain her weight on a healthy diet later on.I was bulimic/anorexic and used to run 6 mls every morning and do another hr of cardio and 45 min of weights in the evening.




Perhaps this diet is putting her in danger of a relapse, but I wouldn't say she's had one at this stage- it's just too early to slap that label on it. Also, I think the label 'anorexia' tends to be tossed around much too casually these days. It's a mental illness and should be diagnosed by a doctor.
However I will agree that what she's doing is risky and unhealthy.
Good point. You're right.
Bad diet. Humans are omnivores! It's scientifically proven that humans are healthiest when they eat a wide variety of foods. In fact, one contributing factor to the rise of plagues and disease was the onset of agriculture, which limited people to a few select foods (and nutrients!).
Eat fats, carbs, and protiens. Your body needs all of these to survive. You feel hungry and bitchy for a reason, and I'm willing to bet that you're not getting anywhere near the amount of calories that you need, especially for someone like yourself (who is moderately active and at a healthy weight).
Try to eat more well-rounded meals, with beans and lentils, tofu, olive oil, avocados, and fish. Let yourself indulge in something sweet and savory every once in a blue moon. Food should be a source of pleasure and sustenance!
Bump up whatever your caloric intake is to about 1,200-1,300, and don't you dare eat less than 1,000!! Just trust me here. If you think that's too much, go to the gym and build some muscle. Avoid wimpy "girl cardio".
Just wanted to add that a lot of the diet advice on this board makes me shudder. Juice fasting and cabbage soup dieting and enemas. Blehhhh
You can eat tasty and nutritious meals and fill your stomach while losing weight and/or looking toned and sexy.
In defense of the potato:
A small white potato has 128 calories, almost no fat, very little protein, and 30-50 grams of carbs. Carbs are sugar and fiber ( think of a fibrous fruit.) Potato carbs are simple, meaning its mostly sugar. The body breaks that sugar down quicker than it does a food with more of its carb content based on fiber.
That being said, there is nothing wrong with adding a potato to your meals, as a small one should only be about 10% of your daily carb requirements. I like to have a small baked one with a nighttime meal ON OCCASION because my body won't burn through it as quickly while I'm still awake.
Now, with THAT being said, there is nothing more delicious on earth than a bowl full of buttery fried potatos covered in salt and pepper, dipped lasviciously into ketchup and tabasco. Rolaids anyone?
Sorry for the threadjack, just wanted to share that a potato isn't a good thing or a bad thing in itself, just depends where it lies in your min/max daily carbohydrate needs.
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Also, different people will react differently to different carbs...
I can usually tell when my body's turning sugar into fat. It's a sort of over-full feeling. I don't usually get this feeling with potatoes (as long as I eat some cheese or egg with them) even though white bread does it. So on my current diet I'm avoiding white bread but eating potatoes in moderation.




Yep, must agree. The fact that a food might be high GI doesn't make it unhealthy per se. Consuming potatoes with fats and proteins will lower the GI of the total meal anyway.
EDIT- To the OP- You are cranky and hungry because you aren't eating enough and you are missing macro-nutrients. Lack of starch, for me, has been a huge cause of crankiness the times I've been unwise enough to attempt to cut it from my diet, and it also looks very much like you aren't eating enough protein and fat to fill you up. Too few calories will also negatively affect your moods and energy and cause hunger. Please follow TheSexKitten's advice- it's sound. A slower weight loss that is mostly fat weight and doesn't run you into the ground is far preferable to rapid loss that decimates muscle and leaves you weakened.
You could always substitute sweet potatoes for the ordinary kind, as they don't cause your blood sugar level to spike and drop in the same way.





I think the OP knows now that she is not eating properly, and will most likely adjust her diet. Can we just drop it all now, Kthanx.![]()
ETA: I was being cheeky!!
EIther way, I didn't mean to sound snarky, and I hope the OP doesn't feel ganged up on.![]()





^Are you being sarcastic, TSK? I was just getting kinda sad because it seemed like people were starting to gang up, that's all.![]()
you do realize that you could eat as much as you want on a raw veggie/raw fruit (and I assume a cooked veggie and fruit diet as well) that you'll still be losing mad weight.
If you eat small meals throughout the day this also ramps up your metabolism, so it's actually a good thing to eat throughout the day.
so eat more! if you're hungry, that's your body saying it needs more, and denying it that is just going to slow DOWN your metabolism because your body thinks it's starving.
also-- said this in random thread, but cayenne is a hunger suppressant.
OK. Where to start here....
I ate potatos because I was avoiding starch and that was why I thought I might be getting cranky. It helped some. Beans because they were in my steamed veggie mix that I had already put together.
This isn't a permanent diet, it's a semi-detox thing. I was eating as much as I wanted, just all fruits and veggies. Most raw, some lightly steamed. (The roasted potatos, were a cheat.) Anyway Friday was my last day and I feel great. I got rid of my bread and sugar cravings. Yayy!





Good for you, Jasmine. Please be more careful in the future with your eating and exercise habits. A lot of ladies posted some excellent advice in here as well. Best of luck to you!
I'm really pissed now! I weighed myself this morning and realized that I gained 1lb back of the 4lbs I lost the first week! WTF!![]()
This is why I was modifying my eating habits. I have been completely unable to lose this weight, and Yes I really do need to lose at least 10lbs. I'm 4'11" and currently weigh 115lb.
I've never understood why people complained about being unable to lose weight. I mean it's calories in vs calories out. Pretty simple. I've always thought why bitch about it, and don't lie and say you aren't eating much if the weight is obviously not coming off. So this is really pissing me off!
I was eating about 800-1000 calories a day. 1 day I ate waaayyy less, like 300 cal, (not on purpose, it was the day we were discussing Skinny Bitch on here.) I have quite a bit of muscle, and lift regularly in addition to my cardio. So I don't know what I'm doing wrong.
I've been trying to get the scale to budge for months.Desperation is what prompted this semi-detox thing. Which BTW, I don't think is nearly as bad as the all-liquid diets that are being discussed, and no one is lecturing them. I mean I'm glad y'all care and all but I really don't think eating fruits and veggies is a bad thing, and it was the perfect way to break those pasta cravings.
Anyway, sorry for rambling on. Any advice is welcome because I'm getting freaking desperate.




A lot of times, crash diets cause loss of water weight during the first week. Or they cause starvation effects, which slow the metabolism, which means a return to intaking enough nutrients to make your body not be starving will also cause weight gain.
This is actually what I was worried about, and why I said it was a bad idea.
On the cheerier side, if you were lifting for one week but eating no protein, and you are lifting this week and eating protein, you may have lost a pound of *muscle* and gained it back.
I'd recommend staying away from the scale and hanging out with the tape measure -- a better indicator of body mass, really...


Chaos is right, and you might be gaining muscle too. Duh she said that LOL! I am off here my brains scrambled.....
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^^ Maybe, but damn, I would have thought that in addition to adding some muscle, I would have lost enough fat to make a difference on the scale. Maybe I'm just expecting to see results too soon.
Anyway, I'm gonna eat perfectly clean, no junk whatsoever for the next few weeks and keep up the workouts and see what happens. If I don't see results then I think I'm gonna make a Dr's appt to get checked out. Thyroid issues run in my family, an aunt on one side has hypothyroidism and one on the other side has hyperthyroidism.
This morning I was bad though. I totally skipped the gym. It was below freezing and I didn't want to freeze my hiney off. I freakin HATE the cold!





don't go by the scale, go by how your clothes fit.
^^^ Yep. Muscle weighs more than fat, but it looks better. I'd rather see a 140 pound woman with muscle tone than a 120 pound woman with flab.
You probably lost water because of a reduced salt intake and increased water intake (from fruits), and I'd be willing to bet some of the weight loss might have been muscle, since it's hard to maintain muscle with such low protein/carb intakes.
Never fear! That 1lb gain was probably just water or poo or something.![]()




^^^ and don't forget the very real slowing / "starvation mode" effect that some crash diets have on the metabolism.
This is why I looked at the liquid diet thread and said that it actually sounds sensible -- because it's concentrating on keeping enough fat and protein in the diet to keep the metabolism running.
Starvation mode is responsible for sudden weight gain on return to normal eating.
I have a couple friends who *permanently* (or for multiple years, at least) lost their ability to stay thin by doing this too much. Their bodies got used to operating on fewer calories and started conserving fat as a survival mechanism -- meaning they now end up obese on a normal, healthy diet. So it is serious business.
It takes a lot more than a week to cause problems like that, but it's a slippery slope, especially if you are ED-prone.
jasmine, I want to encourage you again to rely on a tape measure instead of a scale: part of eating healthy is that your body mass will change, and lean body mass actually weighs more than fat. No one's going to look at your scale printouts in the club, but they will look at your belly.
Diets without enough protein drop lean body mass faster than they drop fat, showing a "better" result on the scale but causing an overall deterioration in the figure. I'm normally about a size 10; when I was dancing and in better shape, I was a size 8 and weighed about ten pounds more because I had more muscle and less flab.
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