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    Lightbulb Calling INS on Illegals...

    Is there like a hot line that I can call and say:

    "There are all of these girls without US Visas working and earning money off the books in 'Club X'... can you send some boys over to pick them up and send them on their merry way home?"


    Just imagine... how much easier it would be to earn without the women who aren't supposed to be legally working in the States...
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    Sadly I don't think all of them are here illegally because they want to be. And most of the NJ clubs would be empty. And I can't imagine no one knows this already. I assumed that INS was okay with the way things are.

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    that seems kinda mean like what other money making options do they have? none in our country, and few in theirs. more people need to learn to share. you should call a hotline on the girls who are hooking in the club, thats something thats fucked up.
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    After reading this thread, I've changed my mind about being helpful. Sorry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RoseLeigh View Post
    Sadly I don't think all of them are here illegally because they want to be. And most of the NJ clubs would be empty. And I can't imagine no one knows this already. I assumed that INS was okay with the way things are.
    I know.... muahahahha.... more $$$ for us, sweetie... more $$$ for us.
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    hmm not sure if theres a line. i dont know how i'd feel about it anyway. i'm all for the whole, pro-america, keep the jobs for us thing, but i dont think i'd be able to fuck over someone's life in order to make an extra buck.

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    As if our government has any interest whatsoever in enforcing immigration law!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kikidejavu View Post
    that seems kinda mean like what other money making options do they have? you should call a hotline on the girls who are hooking in the club.
    I'm not into giving charity to ho's that break the law.

    My family came here legally. My mom wasn't a mail order bride, she didn't come on a tourist visa and just stay, she didn't do any of that shit.

    We fought long and hard for the ability to come to the USA as Russian dissidents and then waited... 6... count em 6!!! years till we got full citizenship.

    Breaking the law is breaking the law, crime is crime, I'm not mean but I don't appreciate illegal women taking money out of my hand because they don't have 'options'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yekhefah View Post
    As if our government has any interest whatsoever in enforcing immigration law!
    Indeed... and it's a shame, too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sophia_Starina View Post
    I'm not into giving charity to ho's that break the law.

    My family came here legally. My mom wasn't a mail order bride, she didn't come on a tourist visa and just stay, she didn't do any of that shit.

    We fought long and hard for the ability to come to the USA and Russian dissidents and then waited... 6... count em 6!!! years till we got full citizenship.

    Breaking the law is breaking the law, crime is crime, I'm not mean but I don't appreciate illegal women taking money out of my hand because they don't have 'options'.
    I don't think the gov't wants to, um, bite the hand that feeds it. NY has enough probs with busting people for everything else. I think if they were concerned with immigration they would have sent the girls back already. They want the money, not the legality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by *BrunetteGoddess* View Post
    Hmm.... seems like this one is strictly Florida based. I'm so surprised that the gov't is so ambivalent.

    I would love an INS paddy-wagon to roll up to my club.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by RoseLeigh View Post
    I don't think the gov't wants to, um, bite the hand that feeds it. NY has enough probs with busting people for everything else. I think if they were concerned with immigration they would have sent the girls back already. They want the money, not the legality.

    I'm actually talking a bit more about NJ at the moment (though Brooklyn is relevant here too). The point is that if these women are undocumented, they aren't paying taxes... they are sending laundering money back to "Old Country" somehow and the US gov't profits zero... goose egg... from keeping them around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sophia_Starina View Post
    Hmm.... seems like this one is strictly Florida based. I'm so surprised that the gov't is so ambivalent.

    I would love an INS paddy-wagon to roll up to my club.....
    You need to rock your new boobies over to a better club, hon! There's a few, according to posts here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sophia_Starina View Post
    I'm actually talking a bit more about NJ at the moment (though Brooklyn is relevant here too). The point is that if these women are undocumented, they aren't paying taxes... they are sending laundering money back to "Old Country" somehow and the US gov't profits zero... goose egg... from keeping them around.
    Yeah, NJ-I sorta figure they get kick backs from clubs and/or 'organizations' for complicity in this trade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoseLeigh View Post
    Yeah, NJ-I sorta figure they get kick backs from clubs and/or 'organizations' for complicity in this trade.
    Not to beat a dead horse.... (I know this thread won't change jack shit, really) but I gotta wonder....

    Doesn't Federal Govt supercede State Govt? I can't imagine a club like Hott 22 giving kickbacks to the INS to allow illegal Brazillians to keep on workin'.
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    I suspect many of those women are not here because they want to be.

    Before, you know, ruining their lives, maybe you could ask them why they are here? Do they have children? What's their life like? Then tell them they can make even more money dancing your way. Just think, if they are illegals, they're probably doing extras because they're broke and desperate.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sophia_Starina View Post
    Not to beat a dead horse.... (I know this thread won't change jack shit, really) but I gotta wonder....

    Doesn't Federal Govt supercede State Govt? I can't imagine a club like Hott 22 giving kickbacks to the INS to allow illegal Brazillians to keep on workin'.
    It should. I don't know about H22, personally, but who knows. I've worked in plenty of clubs all but run by various 'organizations' of the business or 2 wheeled transportation variety.

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    Quote Originally Posted by josie View Post
    I suspect many of those women are not here because they want to be.

    Before, you know, ruining their lives, maybe you could ask them why they are here? Do they have children? What's their life like? Then tell them they can make even more money dancing your way. Just think, if they are illegals, they're probably doing extras because they're broke and desperate.

    Sorry... no sympathy here. If my mom could do it the legal way (with a young child in tow) I am certain that there are other options for these women, too.

    Their problems shouldn't equal my problem. No way, no how.

    Sob stories aside.... they take cash out of my pocket each time they show up for a shift. It's not because they are illegal. It's just a simple law of numbers and it defies logic!!!! for women who shouldn't be here to exist, and work, and cut into MY earnings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sophia_Starina View Post
    Not to beat a dead horse.... (I know this thread won't change jack shit, really) but I gotta wonder....

    Doesn't Federal Govt supercede State Govt? I can't imagine a club like Hott 22 giving kickbacks to the INS to allow illegal Brazillians to keep on workin'.
    I know you're just using Hott as an example, but I'm fairly certain all the girls are legal or have really convincing fake documentation 'cause management is paranoid about getting busted for ANYTHING.

    I see your point, but I personally couldn't be the one to out the illegal status of someone I worked with. I could call them out for prostituting though, in a heartbeat. I think that immigration and illegal activity there of should be dealt with differently than it is but I would die of guilt if I were the one to send someone back to poverty.

    I have nothing against immigration. My family immigrated here too like just about everyone else's. But the people who do it illegally aren't helping the economy because they don't pay taxes, and they're actually hurting themselves because they would be paid much better if they were here legally. I know many people here who have to work under the table and make less than they certainly should be making because their employers know they can exploit them.

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    Yeah I just used it as an example cuz Rose & I both know about it... nothing against it personally.
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    Default Re: Calling INS on Illegals...

    someone should report the miami strip clubs and clean it up a bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by head turner View Post
    someone should report the miami strip clubs and clean it up a bit.
    Yep, and north Jerz, and Brooklyn too.

    There is a lot of money floating around and rather unique "organizations" sometimes profiting from it. The Rabbit Hole goes down real deep.... too bad INS can't be bothered to deal with it.

    If I find the number for my area.... I will be calling. Trust me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTempest View Post
    I know you're just using Hott as an example, but I'm fairly certain all the girls are legal or have really convincing fake documentation 'cause management is paranoid about getting busted for ANYTHING.

    I see your point, but I personally couldn't be the one to out the illegal status of someone I worked with. I could call them out for prostituting though, in a heartbeat. I think that immigration and illegal activity there of should be dealt with differently than it is but I would die of guilt if I were the one to send someone back to poverty.

    I have nothing against immigration. My family immigrated here too like just about everyone else's. But the people who do it illegally aren't helping the economy because they don't pay taxes, and they're actually hurting themselves because they would be paid much better if they were here legally. I know many people here who have to work under the table and make less than they certainly should be making because their employers know they can exploit them.
    All of our families immigrated here at some point, and I have no doubt that a LOT of our families suffered some sort of pimping or indentured servitude or exploitation at some point. I've known a lot of people get here and can't go back because they are held, basically, captive by low pay, housing owned by the employer costing more than it even does for the rest of us, threat of INS, 'debt' they owe to whoever got them here. That busboy at your local diner is likely earning $5 a NIGHT plus a few tips, those strippers are likely giving all their money to someone, etc. What needs to be stopped is the pimps, not the women.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sophia_Starina View Post
    Yeah I just used it as an example cuz Rose & I both know about it... nothing against it personally.
    I figured. I just... felt the need to make it clear that they're not doing anything illegal... EW. I feel loyalty towards the club. Ewewew.

    Hehe.

    I guess Miami & Florida would have more issues with illegal immigrants due to their proximity to Cuba. That's probably why there's a hotline for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by head turner View Post
    someone should report the miami strip clubs and clean it up a bit.
    Someone did years ago. I remember a sweep by INS about 7 years ago..a LOT of girls were deported.

    There are quite a few here I'd LOVE to report...mostly because they are bitchy hookers who contribute nothing to the economy..they wear the same damn clothes (and panties,which they throw in their locker and put on again the next day...ugh.),live as cheaply as possible and send all their money home. They hook in the clubs and all the English they seem to know is "want dancing yes?" and "i hate america".

    After watching some of the incredible lengths some of my friends have gone through(and still go through some of them) to do things legally and be an upstanding member of this country...it pisses me off(and my legally emigrated friends as well)that they get to bypass all the work and just reap the benefits.

    Problem is...you need their real names,addreses and such to report them. And it isnt like I can just say "Hey...INS..there are a crapload of illegals working in South FL"..well DUH. They know that.

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