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    I left my regular club because it has really gone down hill. Drama, fights, drugs, extras girls are all out of control. After complaining to management for months, I decided to move to a very upscale club. Love it there. Beautiful establishment, great staff, great dancers.
    Problem is club A is a fast paced hustle geared towards couch dances. I make my money from ten to twenty different customers depending on the night. I do very well there. That has always been my hustle style. Get my money and move on to the next.
    Club B is a slow paced hustle geared towards VIP rooms. It is very much hit or miss. If I find that one guy to bank off of, Im golden. But if I miss him I make very little for the night. I run out of patience and conversation long before Im done closing my sale or during my private room. Also the club takes a huge chunk of your earnings.
    Im happier overall at the new club but I know its hurting my money (which Im hurting for money right now).
    Ive been mulling this decision around for over a month now, even bounced back and forth from the two clubs. I'll settle in to club B, then have a terrible night and return to club A, until some crack whore starts shit with me or I argue with the customer who wants extras and when I say I dont do that he points to the gal on the next couch (giving hand job) and says, "she does".

    I dont know what to do.

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    Is there another club you can try?

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    ^ I was just gonna ask this, surely there must be more than just these 2 clubs?
    If it is just to 2 I can really sympathize as I'm the same as you, I work a fast hustle and rarely have the patience to woo guys into VIP. I guess what I would do is work at club A and just try and let the drama go over my head - easier said than done I know but if you really need money fast then you have to go where the money is.

    Could you work at club A, save some cash up then move to club B? Once you have some savings behind you that might give you some space to learn a new hustle suitable for club B.



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    Quality of life wins out with me any day, especially if you're still making enough to live on and put something in savings. I'd rather make a thousand a week and be happy than three thousand a week and be miserable, no question.

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    If club B is a better environment, I say stay there and learn to adjust your hustle. Moving clubs is like taking a different job in any career...you can't just show up your first day and expect everything to be the same.

    Just because you don't know how to hustle VIP's right now doesn't mean you can't learn. It's a different set of skills...slower lead-up, more attention to what the customer needs and wants, more coaxing. Conversation, keeping a guy entertained for horus at a time, upselling, this is all stuff you can learn. It's not always easy, but it can be very lucrative. There are lots of threads in Hutle Hut about how to do this, and Britney Ireland's blog is a great resource, too.

    Of course, if you really, really hate this type of hustle, you can always go back to the drama club and stave off crazy girls and extras-seeking regulars. But I know it would be an easy choice for me.

    Good luck!

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    No question for me. Stay at the nicer, VIP-oriented club here you are more comfortable and learn how to hustle rooms. You only need one guy with a credit card

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    Maybe your just so used to your hustle at your original club and it will take some time to tweak your new hustle for the other club. I went went through this exact same problem when I left my home club. I was so used to making money a certain way that it took a few months for me to prefect my hustle somewhere else in a new environment. If you don't want to switch just be patient and see if it works out.

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    If there are no other club options, I would agree with the other girls who say stick with the new club and focus on learning to make the money there. If you keep using the old club as a crutch, you will never really learn to swim in the VIP environment. It sounds to me like you dislike the old club too much to keep going there, but are just too dependent on it as a bail-out when you don't make what you want at the new place. Forget the old place. Enjoy the new one. Dive in headfirst, focus all your attention on learning to make it there. Do that and you'll see your earnings improve soon.

    After all, you had to do that when you started the first club, right? If you could do it once you can do it again. Now GO!

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    Learning a new hustle does suck. In the long run you'll be happier. I worked at a club for over 6 yrs. It was hard to move to a new club. I would work at other clubs while I had my home club. Finally I couldn't take it anymore; and, I left for good. The club I work at now has a CR room. It was weird at first. But, totally worth it! I don't have to deal w/ the soap opera anymore!(lot's of drama at club a) Yes, club A has great girls that I miss and a remodeled club; but, I don't have to deal w/ the drama! Bonus! So try to stick it out a little longer.
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    There are other clubs here. One has jacuzzi rooms (no thanks) and the other is very strict in regards to scheduling and arrival time, I cant meet thier requirments.
    I worked in the same club for six years that was only couch dances, no vip/cr. Then moved to club A thats geared towards couch dances with the option of vip. Ive avoided the vips there because of the 'extras' expectations. Now, working in club B that is all about the vip/cr, I guess Im resistant to change. All of your replies have helped me, thank you. I needed to strighten out my thoughts. I almost want to make a pro/con compare list, haha. Im definately using club A as a crutch and not giving club B 100% effort.
    I worked at club A last night and really thought about why I do so well the as opposed to club B. There I have the attitude that they're in my house and 'you are going to come dance with me and youll probably get four or five dances and then tip me really well because Im the best dancer ever and totally worth your $100 to $200 bucks'. Where as in club B Im not so confident to ask for $500 bucks upfront.
    I have alot of Hustle Hut to read....

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    i think happiness are so much more important than more money, i used to get booked whole night in VIP with a old boring guy, twice a week for 4 months!!! i was make 1000 a night, but i told him to piss off last month when he asked for extra. he did not come back since, now i m making 200 or 300 at weekend. but i think i m heaps happier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gabrielle MB View Post
    I worked at club A last night and really thought about why I do so well the as opposed to club B. There I have the attitude that they're in my house and 'you are going to come dance with me and youll probably get four or five dances and then tip me really well because Im the best dancer ever and totally worth your $100 to $200 bucks'. Where as in club B Im not so confident to ask for $500 bucks upfront.
    I have alot of Hustle Hut to read....
    Well right there you've figured out your biggest problem. Aside from stop using clubA as a crutch, you need to work on your confidence. If you can compete and make money in a club full of extras then obviously you can make it in a cleaner club! Remind yourself of that and it'll make it easier to boost your confidence. Check yourself each night before work and remind yourself the sales skills you already have. Tell yourself you are a better dancer and saleswoman than these chics who never had to compete with girls giving extras. Know that OF COURSE your time is worth $500 or any price you choose. And of course, fake it til you make it! Keep saying these things to yourself until you feel it so well you don't have to say it anymore.

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    Soo.... here's what I did... I 'talked' to myself alot and convinced myself that im worth larger amounts of money because I got hired at this club without an audition (normally required) whereas alot of the girls at previous club couldnt make it past door man (heavy, older, ugly, trashy). I take good care of myself, workout more days than not, have big boobies and im smart. I worked last night very confident and made just under a thousand before tipouts. Tipouts took a huge chunck but Im okay with that. On a Sunday. Happy Day!!

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    Congratulations Gabrielle! Positive thinking in action!
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    Good job! Keep it up

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    You go girl! Your happiness draws money. Keep it up.
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    Another week later in the 'gown' club. Not happy. I'm still struggling here. I've talked with all the floor hosts and the manager about what’s going on. Basically the deal is that you need the floor hosts to hook you up with the high dollar customers (of coarse they say that because that’s more $ for them). But I've watched and it is true. The girls that are doing well are the ones being hooked up. I have tipped out an ass load of my earnings to insure I'm on their lists of 'go get' girls but there's not any response. I'm noticing that the girls making big $ are the girlfriends of the floor hosts. Big time favoritism going on. I'd like to give it another week to master this hustle but it’s really hurting me financially. I'm on a deadline. At the end of June I'm having surgery and will be out of work for four months. I need the money for the surgery and bills for the time off. Not a big deal but I'm already tapping into my savings for regular monthly bills because of how poorly I'm doing here. Forget about saving anything right now. It is very hard to stick it out here. Especially when I know I could be making money at previous club. I really want to make it work but when do I give up? I don't think I can handle another shit week. I keep track of my earnings and I'm making in one week what I make in one or two nights in other place.
    I worked a long shift today, from 4pm to 2am. I had a long talk with the manager early on about not wanting to leave but not making enough to stay, etc. He really wants me to stay. He called his main floor host over and told him, 'you see this beautiful girl right here? If she doesn't start making money we are going to lose her. I do not want to lose her. I want you to make sure you take care of her from now on.' Well, He came to bring me to a table just before 2am, when I was in the dressing room changing to leave. Too little, too late. In ten hours I made $35. WTF??

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    Just to update and end this thread... thank you so much for all the advice and encouragement. I have returned to club A and I have found that money IS happiness. No matter how much the club sucks, Having more money to do more in my free time and having more free time to do stuff is worth dealing with the bs. I am less stressed out. The grass was not greener and Im happy I found out.

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