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    I work the slow times at my club because I tend to do better. I generally get around 3 dances per hour including time wasted doing stage and in the dressing room. I tend to notice that since there are not a lot of guys at the club, they notice who is getting a lot of dances and who is getting rejected. If I take 2 guys upstairs for a dance in a row, the third guy will almost certainly say yes. If I get two rejections in a row, the third guy will almost certainly say no.

    There is a guy who tips me reasonably well for convo. Our club has no VIP room, just couches for private dances. He gives me $120/hour which is good considering I'd get $60 in dances for an hour. The only problem is, I think it looks to customers like I am hustling him for an hour and then getting a rejection. I've tried talking him into going to the couch booths because "the seats are really comfy" and I tell him I won't dance or take off clothes... we'll just talk. At least this way it would look to others like I am getting paid. But he doesn't want to.

    Should I just accept the money and not worry about "bad publicity" or is there something I can do about this?

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    Default Re: tipping for convo=bad publicity?

    I don't think it's bad publicity. I think if you make it look like you are having an amazing time, laughing and smiling and chatting it up, it's not really a rejection. You could also incorporate it into your next target: "Im so horny now and ready to dance! My last customer loves my conversation and I don't get to dance..." Or something along those lines. Know what I mean?

    But really, as long as you look like you're having a fabulous time and so does the person you're sitting with, you're pretty good to go. Also maybe leave the money he pays you on the table?
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    Default Re: tipping for convo=bad publicity?

    An older dancer once told me the very same thing...that even if you're getting tipped for conversation you should try to do a dance, because otherwise you'll look like a rejectee.

    If your customer is coming in just to talk to you, you probably have a good rapport, no? Maybe you could just explain to him that it's "better for business" if you're seen doing dances, or at least sitting in the dance area.

    I think Liz has a good point, though, if you look like you're having an amazing time...guys will probably look at you and think you're a fun girl, rather than look at you and think you're a lame-o who can't get a dance. Or, you could just be unsubtle and refer to the fact that you got paid to sit there, like Liz suggested. Or...be really blatant about pulling out your garter when it's time to stuff the money in?

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    Default Re: tipping for convo=bad publicity?

    In small slow clubs like that it can hurt your flow to be seen sitting for a long time seemingly doing nothing.

    Can you make up a story about management getting on your ass because they think you're not "working" and it would help if yall spent at least part of your time in the couch room? Or at least make a bit of a show of putting your money in your garter or whatever when you leave his table?


    Most guys, from my experience, perceive a girl sitting around "having fun" for a long time with a custy as being one of those girls who is easy to convince to hang out for free, or that she's hanging with her bf or something. Either way it's not encouraging them to buy dances.

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    i dont think its bad publicity because people probably assume that he's giving you money. do u sit with all the customers that long?

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    NO..bad publicity is sitting by yourself ALL night with a sourpuss. The fact that you held his attention for so long will show that you are not only gorgeous..but worth talking to(whether they know he paid you or not)

    And I have to say..$60 for an HOUR of dancing??? Thats an insanely small amount amount of money! How much are your dances that you only get $60 for dancing for an hour???? In most places..with dances being $20 and lasting on average 3 minutes..$60 is nine MINUTES of dancing..not an hour. I wouldnt dance for an hour for $60!!!

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    Default Re: tipping for convo=bad publicity?

    Cameron, I read it as she typically averages 3 dances per hour when NOT sitting with that customer ($60), but he pays her $120 an hour to sit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by noelle View Post
    Cameron, I read it as she typically averages 3 dances per hour when NOT sitting with that customer ($60), but he pays her $120 an hour to sit.
    ok thats better...I was going to say,,if you only make $60 for an hour of dancing..find a new club!lol

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    Yeah sorry, I mean that I get an average of 9 minutes of dance time which comes to $60 for every hour. The other 51 minutes is spent on stage, in the dressing room and hustling.

    Thanks for the advice girls!

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    Default Re: tipping for convo=bad publicity?

    getting paid to talk really doesn't hurt money here as much as just walking around constantly.
    Which is because we are required to sit with customers...i.e. no sitting in groups or alone, or hanging in the dressing room or bathrooms.
    sometimes it makes me think of musical freaking chairs.
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    I just make a show of getting the money off the guy. Either by making him put it down my top, or in my uber tacky moneybox shoes.
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