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    I'm tired a lot. Doesn't matter how much sleep I get. Some mornings I can barely get up. Other times I do OK in the mornings, but am dead by the afternoon. I can't wait to go to bed at night. Seriously, if I didn't have things to do I would sleep all day long.

    I work out twice a week with a personal trainer and 3x a week on my own, cardio only. I thought the exercize would boost my energy levels, but no dice. I eat OK. Prolly a little too much junk food, but plenty of fresh fruits and veggies, too.

    Anybody dealt with this? Suggestions? Supplements? Vitamins?

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    You may want to seek help from a doctor. There are plenty of conditions that can cause this. When you sleep are you sleeping well? If not your body may not be rested at all, causing you to feel like you need to sleep more. Try avoiding high sugar foods and see if that helps. Try maybe a low stimulant fat burner type thing. I use hot rox by t-nation and it helps alot. Also helps with stubborn tummy fat. I can't hand stimulants, but this one I can handle. Also helps with energy, but not a rushy kinda way if you know what I mean. Also, if your not taking a women's multivitamin it wouldn't be a bad place to start.

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    Aren't you suffering from depression, too, Grace? When I'm in a depressive episode, all I want to do is sleep. That might be a big part of it.

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    It sounds like you're doing plenty to naturally tire yourself out... I know that if I go from a period of relative inactivity into a period of a lot of activity, it can take a few months for my body to catch up and even everything out.

    Take a melatonin, get to bed early, set your alarm clock early, make sure you're eating all day, and try to be as consistent with these things as possible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xoxoGracexoxo View Post
    I'm tired a lot. Doesn't matter how much sleep I get. Some mornings I can barely get up. Other times I do OK in the mornings, but am dead by the afternoon. I can't wait to go to bed at night. Seriously, if I didn't have things to do I would sleep all day long.

    I work out twice a week with a personal trainer and 3x a week on my own, cardio only. I thought the exercize would boost my energy levels, but no dice. I eat OK. Prolly a little too much junk food, but plenty of fresh fruits and veggies, too.

    Anybody dealt with this? Suggestions? Supplements? Vitamins?
    For fatique Grace, the first things that come to mind are S.A.D., Depression, and Iron deficiency.

    You are in a southern climate, so I'm not sure if S.A.D. would be a problem, though the days are shorter in the winter, and maybe you've had lots of cloudy days. I know you have been dealing with some downer days, and with depression comes a lack of energy and motivation.

    Are you a vegetarian? Here's a link about iron deficiency: Anemia
    The suggestion already made of a woman's daily vitamin is a good one. I'm taking Omega 3 fatty acid gelcaps. Excercise can't hurt, and should help, so don't get discouraged.

    I'm a big believer in listening to your body. Sleep is good. Sleep when you're tired...it's just like eat when you're hungry and drink when you thirst.
    Anyways, my best wishes that you'll feel more normal soon.

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    Also, does your fatigue wax and wane throughout the month? I'm always sluggish before and during my period. Are you generally scheduling your activities during your "active" times of day or during your "exhausted" times of day? I would've thought exercise would help as well, but maybe you just aren't mentally engaging in what you're doing. How long would you say this has been going on? (Sorry for the 20 questions!)


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    Thanks guys. Yeah, I do suffer from depression and had a bit of an episode recently. I've been on an increased dose of anti-depressants for the past two weeks, and most of my symptoms have improved. My mood is more or less stable again. Maybe that's why I'm so anxious for my fatigue to go away, too...I want to feel BETTER already!

    Weather has been cloudly here all week, and cloudy weather does drag me down even in just a few days. And yes, I'm also really busy. It's not like I'm tired for no reason...but I need to figure out how to be untired, because stuff has to get done. I've been cranking the coffee lately to keep me up, but if I drink too much I have a crash in the mid-afternoon that kills me.

    I do take a multi-vitamin, but not as faithful with it as I could be. Only a few times a week. Thanks for the reminder...I'll go take one right now.

    Maybe cutting out sugar as well. I don't eat a ton of refined sugar, but I do eat a lot of fruit. I thought the fiber in fruit would prevent glucose spikes and tiredness, but maybe not for me.

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    depression made me sleepy all the time. Espcially when starting new meds.
    Try eating oranges, I find they help me, even orange scented candles body soap or lotion. It' an upliftin fragrance. Exercise in the mornings, it helps me alot. He healthy lower card foods. Save the carbs (i mean like breads and pastas and pastrys) for after works outs. YOur body processes these better and in a more efficient manor. You have a bout a 2 hour window for those cards. THer rest of the day eat veggies, protein and fruits. Fish oil and natural peanut oil helps also., Your body needs healthy fats.
    Cheat now and then, about 4 times a week have something special. When i say special, I don't mean a four course unhealthy meal, I mean a dessert, or a sugary drink/latte.
    Sounds like your body needs a minor change. The hard part is figuring out what that change is. Talk to your trainer about it too.

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    B-Vitamins help....get a B-complex and take it religiously. A lot of people don't get enough B-Vitamins. B-6 is especially helpful.....However....medical conditions cause this too. I would suggest Blood tests to rule out some problems. A CBC and Complete Metabolic Panel is a place to start. Depression is also a major factor. You may want to talk to your Dr. about augmenting current medication with another.

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    Lexapro taken long term can sometimes mess with your body. It can also sedate people esp after taking it for years. Here is a thread about Lexapro withdrawal (which sucks) but there is interesting info about how lexapro works, and the affect it can have on a person's brain.
    http://www.drugs.com/forum/featured-...-24681-14.html

    "Lexapro is a selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor. That means that Lexapro keeps serotonin bouncing back and forth across your brain, which means you don't have to keep producing so much serotonin all the time to feel good. You don't have to keep producing so much seratonin, because not much is "reuptaken" (it's not English, but you get the drift).

    It's a great idea, especially for people who don't have enough serotonin in the first place.

    So this plan is a great idea. The problem is, the human body was not designed (or evolved, take your pick) to work that way. Think of serotonin as aluminum foil. And think of Lexapro as mandatory recycling. You are a pineal gland. No matter how many times you use the aluminum foil, you're not allowed to throw it away. You have to keep reusing it, over and over. And in the meantime, because there are no customers anymore, Reynolds goes out of business. Plus you've had to spend so much time figuring out what to do with this same piece of aluminum foil, you've had to let many of your obligations slide. On the other hand, you've had no choice but to deal with this now nasty piece of foil, so you have specialized and become a real used foil expert.

    You get sick of it all and move someplace away from Lexapro, your recycling tyrant. You go to Panama, a tax haven where the weather's always good, the beach is great, no hurricanes plus cheap drinks. And no recycling. Life is good, until you cook dinner. There's no foil because you threw that last piece away when you fired the recycling Nazi...and the foil companies went out of business, and by now that's the only thing you know how to deal with. What a catch-22.

    I believe in recycling, but only to a point. I think when it comes to the pineal gland, that's pushing recycling too far. Sometimes you need to throw the foil away and tear off a fresh sheet. Just like your pineal gland should be able to throw away serotonin when it doesn't need it, then get some fresh when it needs it again. Besides, your pineal gland has some other really important things it needs to do besides being locked down by this seratonin recycling business. But it can't because of our old friend Lexapro.

    Besides its serotonin "monitoring" function, the pineal gland is the only gland in your body that converts serotonin into melatonin. But it only does it at certain times of the day. Like plants, humans have certain chemical processes we carry out in the daytime, and others we need to do at night. It's called circadian rhythm, or circadian cycle. Or in plain English, your body clock. It's why we need sleep in the first place -- so our body can take care of the things it can't do while we're driving and yapping on our cell phones.

    The pineal gland keeps serotonin going by day, allowing you to do your daily stuff you need to do -- like function without troublesome brain zaps or uncontrollable car-kicking. Then it's time to "reuptake" the seratonin and convert some of it to melatonin so your body can carry out its night-time functions, like sleep. But because Lexapro doesn't allow this to happen properly, because the serotonin keeps bouncing -- back and forth, back and forth -- melatonin takes a back seat and your circadian rhythm goes haywire. The line between waking consciousness and dreamlife can become blurred, and sometimes it's hard to tell the difference. Your body's not sure what time it is...is it time to get up and do stuff, or is it time to dream? It might do both at once."
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    "Melatonin seems to be the answer but it is NOT. It CANNOT be taken at the same time as Lexapro due to the P 450 Chtochrome sytsem."

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    split your vitamins up. take iron and C in the mornings with oj. take vitamin d around midday. and then take a b complex vitamin around bedtime.

    you're probably not absorbing enough iron if you're just taking the multivitamin. splitting them that way, basically just taking your vitamins several hours apart generally helps a lot.

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    Thanks for all the helpful posts. Splitting up vitamins sounds simple enough...I'll give it a shot.

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    i learned about splitting up vitamins from a book about herbal stuff for women's health problems. multivitamins are kind of a bad idea, since some vitamins interfere with absorption of others. an instance of this is that b vitamins interfere with absorbing iron. conversely, vitamin C helps you absorb iron better.

    i thought it would be hard to divvy them all up and give up multivitamins or use them supplementally, but those little pill cases with am/pm or morning/noon/night slots are incredibly easy to get used to. and i find myself remembing to take multiple vitamins much better than when i just took a single multivitamin. go figure.

    i have energy level problems too, but changing my environment helped A LOT. if your house/apartment has been looking the same for years or months, maybe just rearranging the furniture and your workspaces to make it feel a different way might help. i gave up my scientist's clutter for organized shelves and now i get up at 8am easily and stay up easily until midnight where as recently as a few weeks ago i was struggling to get up at 11am and was tired by 9pm.

    one of the most stressing things is chronic exhaustion. you get tired all the time and you get mad that you're tired and it just gets so circular. i hope you can find a way to nip it in the bud. it's maddening to deal with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miabella View Post
    i have energy level problems too, but changing my environment helped A LOT. if your house/apartment has been looking the same for years or months, maybe just rearranging the furniture and your workspaces to make it feel a different way might help. i gave up my scientist's clutter for organized shelves and now i get up at 8am easily and stay up easily until midnight where as recently as a few weeks ago i was struggling to get up at 11am and was tired by 9pm.
    Environment does have a huge effect. Clutter is stressful...maybe I can get the boyfriend to give me a hand tidying up. The house isn't in a terrible state, but it's small, and every little bit of clutter makes it seem smaller. It's also kind of a dark place...and it's been overcast outside for more than a week now, so that makes it darker. Perhaps some new lamps are needed, or some of those daylight spectrum bulbs.

    I think getting up earlier in general might be better for me. My body naturally kinda likes to get up at dawn and go to sleep fairly early, too. Sadly, the boyfriend is a night owl, so if we both kept our natural schedules we'd never see each other.

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