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    Did anyone catch the Jenny McCarthy interview on Larry King? Jenny's son has autism - an epidemic she says is on the rise due to childhood vaccinations. Moms, have your kids had all their shots? Why or why not?


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    It's partly vaccinations and partly older parents, I think. I'm mildly amused to see Jenny McCarthy in the role of serious activist, but if it helps autistic kids then I'm all for it. Good for her.

    I'm not going to let them shoot up my kids with everything Big Pharm recommends, no. MMR, sure. But too many parents just go along with whatever the doctor says to do, regardless of the fact that too many doctors are just pimping drugs for money.

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    I'm not really amused seeing McCarthy in the role of serious activist. She's a grown woman who had to watch her child literally DIE in front of her. Kudos to her for being so fucking fierce and trying to raise awareness about this.

    She has all of my respect, and I'm sad that she and her family are having to deal with this.
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    I remember her talking about this on Oprah a while ago and I thought it was very interesting. Especially the new diet she put her son on. I wish I could remember it...

    *off to read*

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    ^ A gluten and casein free diet along with a metal detox and anti-fungals for yeast infections.

    Great topic! I have to run will add my opinion later.


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    Wow...she seems like such a great mom! How wonderful of her to speak out against the pharmaceutical profit engine and try to wake parents up.

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    Jenny McCarthy has some nice breasts, but her position on vaccines is so utterly baseless that it's farcical.

    Think vaccines are useless in modern-day America? Think again.

    From the recent NYT article on the subject:

    “I refuse to sacrifice my children for the greater good,” said Sybil Carlson, whose 6-year-old son goes to school with several of the children hit by the measles outbreak here. The boy is immunized against some diseases but not measles, Ms. Carlson said, while his 3-year-old brother has had just one shot, protecting him against meningitis.

    “When I began to read about vaccines and how they work,” she said, “I saw medical studies, not given to use by the mainstream media, connecting them with neurological disorders, asthma and immunology.”

    Ms. Carlson said she understood what was at stake. “I cannot deny that my child can put someone else at risk,” she said.
    How wonderfully magnanimous of you, Ms. Carlson, you fucking bitch.
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    CO, are you even aware of her viewpoints? Did you even watch the video. She says, and I quote, "I am not anti-vaccine. I'm anti-toxins."

    Vaccines have served a purpose, but they've also caused major problems. This is something that needs to be addressed, not dismissed.

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    ive said it before and i'll say it again.

    the onset of schizophrenia is what, 18-early 20s? the onset of autism is around the same time vaccines are given. that does not mean the two are related. that's just the time that the switch goes off in the brain. could be related, could not be.

    many people are just desperate to find a cause. wouldnt you be, if your child had a developmental disorder? you want to know WHY. not knowing is a horrible feeling, i'm sure.

    (for the record, my mom's best friend's son is autistic. and i work at a school that has a 60% autistic population. the school is part of an institute that is well known and not to brag, but kind of the best out there for an autistic child.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by britt244 View Post
    the onset of schizophrenia is what, 18-early 20s? the onset of autism is around the same time vaccines are given.
    What do you mean?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zinaida View Post
    What do you mean?
    a child isnt born and can be diagnosed as autistic. it's around 2ish years old that signs start to show up. they seem to regress and may not let people hold them, respond to their name, they may stop talking, etc. which is around the same time the vaccines are given. that doesnt mean they are related, however.

    when someone is schizophrenic, it's onset is around the early 20s. that's when the symptoms start to show up. if someone got in a car accident, and around the same time was diagnosed with schizophrenia, it wouldnt mean the car accident caused it.

    some disorders just start to show up around a certain age.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Casual Observer View Post
    How wonderfully magnanimous of you, Ms. Carlson, you fucking bitch.
    Sheesh, relax. It's not exactly a huge risk us vaccinated folks will be getting whooping cough or rubella.

    If people do see epidemics I got a feeling a lot of the unvaccinated will become vaccinated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by britt244 View Post

    (for the record, my mom's best friend's son is autistic. and i work at a school that has a 60% autistic population. the school is part of an institute that is well known and not to brag, but kind of the best out there for an autistic child.)
    so how did you end up getting a job there?
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    A lot of these newer vaccines are still, for all intents and purposes, experimental. I would rather not use my kid for a guinea pig. Sure, the vaccines might not be causing autism, but why take the risk? In my opinion the risk from newer vaccines is greater than the risk of fatal illness.

    FFS, they have a vaccine for CHICKEN POX now. Chicken pox! Remember when getting chicken pox was a totally normal part of childhood and you just had some soup and got over it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yekhefah View Post
    A lot of these newer vaccines are still, for all intents and purposes, experimental. I would rather not use my kid for a guinea pig. Sure, the vaccines might not be causing autism, but why take the risk? In my opinion the risk from newer vaccines is greater than the risk of fatal illness.

    FFS, they have a vaccine for CHICKEN POX now. Chicken pox! Remember when getting chicken pox was a totally normal part of childhood and you just had some soup and got over it?
    i'/m replying w/ quote.
    Quote Originally Posted by alessandra View Post
    I like them large and cut. Sort of like strawberries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lizlizliz View Post
    hmm, but what about when your child dies in front of you after immediately having a vaccination. random? bitch, please.
    that has nothing to do with AUTISM.

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    so how did you end up getting a job there?
    uh.. thats what i went to school for?

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    i like that you took that comment so literally, it really helps to illustrate my (asshole sarcastic) point.
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    I like them large and cut. Sort of like strawberries.

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    ok, well considering its not like today they get a vaccine and tomorrow or the next day theres a problem, you have no point. and considering there are autistic children who havent had vaccines, and many typically developing children who have had them..

    how much do you know about the disorder? please, do some research before you chime in.

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    My kids are not vaccinated and they will not be. I am more comfortable treating the so-called 'deadly' diseases (measles, mumps, rubella, chicken pox, etc, etc, etc) than I am injecting ethyl mercury, aluminum, etc, etc, etc into their bodies while their nervous systems are finishing their growing/connections/etc.

    DO vaccines cause autism? Hmmmm...well, it's a good question and you know...there are WAY too many parents out there who had "normal" children until they hit a certain round of vaccines. What is currently being found out is that different people's bodies work at different efficiencies to rid toxins out of the body. So, if one child receives 2mcg of ethyl mercury (thimerasol) in one visit one month and 5mcg the next month...and has no side effects...their body may be extremely efficient at expelling the toxins. HOWEVER, there are people who's bodies are NOT as efficient and so when they get a shit load of toxins at one visit...and then a shit load at the next visit...it becomes overwhelming and leads to MERCURY POISONING. What are the signs of mercury poisoning? If you look it up, they are almost exactly the same signs as autism.

    I do not think that Thimerasol CAUSES autism as much as it creates autistic symptoms. A lot of people who have kids who have become 'autistic' through vaccines have had good results doing what Jenny McCarthy did with her son.

    My uncle has 3 boys, the older 2 are autistic (one severely and one mildly) the 3rd one is not autistic. The older 2 were fully vaxed and the younger was never vaxed. Did the vaxes cause the problems in the older boys? Was it sheer coincidence? Who knows...but until someone can say 'for sure' my kids will not be vaccinated.

    The whole concept that vaccines 'eradicated' anything is preposterous. If you look at when the vaccines were introduced compared to when the diseases died out, you will find that the diseases were already on the way out the door when the vaccines came out.

    I am not anti-vaccine, either. I am anti-toxins. I would never let my child lick mercury off the floor. I would never allow my child to drink down some aluminum...why in the hell would I allow someone to inject this shit into my child? In the name of "health"? Fuck that. A healthy immune system is a strong immune system. How can you have a strong immune system when your body is being filled with, not just toxins, but immuno-suppressants and up to 15 different viruses at one time?

    And for those of you who think that vaxes have "trace amounts" of the toxins...think again. The FDA requires "less than" x amounts (usually .5mcg of thimerasol/aluminum, etc). But, that is for SINGLE vaccines. Some kids are getting 5 different shots, with each shot containing multiple vaccines in ONE visit. Add it up and some of these babies are receiving 275% MORE than the approved amount of thimerasol/aluminum/etc. AND that .5mcg is based on a HEALTHY ADULT...not on a baby.

    I would hardly take the word of a company (big pharma) about the "safety" of vaccines who stands to MAKE over 5 billion dollars on the sale of vaccines alone.

    I have had chicken pox, measles, and mumps...and I was fully vaccinated.

    Herd immunity (the whole push behind vaccines) is bullshit. There is no such thing. Why? Because ADULTS are no longer protected by the vaccines, and you will find very few "newly fully vaccinated" adults walking around.

    Diseases become less powerful when people are immune to them. You do not get immunity from vaccines. You only get immunity from contracting the disease.

    Do your research (pros and cons) and then decide if vaccinating is right for you. For me and my family, no one will ever inject anything into my child (or myself). But, this is right for my family and I am confident in this choice because I've been doing my research for over 6 years.

    Informed consent. Know what it is, know your rights, and know your facts before you depend on the "word" of the doctor you are going to.

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    oh.. and just for the record.. im not saying im for or against vaccines. that's a different issue. just against the idea that they "cause" autism.

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    ugh. i'm not ignorant when it comes to the subject, you just suck at logic and interpreting shit correctly. but no worries, i have neither the patience nor the care to explaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaain it to you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by britt244 View Post
    ok, well considering its not like today they get a vaccine and tomorrow or the next day theres a problem, you have no point. and considering there are autistic children who havent had vaccines, and many typically developing children who have had them..

    how much do you know about the disorder? please, do some research before you chime in.
    Sure, there are many children who are autistic and have not been vaccinated.

    However, when the number of autistic children becomes 1 in 150 children...that's a pretty daunting number.

    I have a neighbor who had her child vaccinated at the doctors office and when she got home her child was dead. Tell me that isn't a vaccine-induced death. Completely healthy at the doctors office, gets a 5-in-1 and is dead by the time she gets home 30 minutes later.

    You cannot possibly think that it is NOT ok to handle mercury and aluminum without protective gear...but it IS ok to inject this shit into the kids...and that there cannot POSSIBLY be a link between these toxins and the problems that we are seeing in the kids these days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by britt244 View Post
    oh.. and just for the record.. im not saying im for or against vaccines. that's a different issue. just against the idea that they "cause" autism.
    Ok...saying they 'cause' autism is a little out there. How about vaccines cause autistic symptoms?

    There was a case that was just conceded by the vaccine courts. A little girl's regressive autism was caused by vaccines. Why? She had a mitochondrial disorder (that wouldn't cause problems otherwise) but the vaccines caused the issue.

    So, if this little girl has this disorder and had these problems...why is it so hard to believe that no one else would have an 'invisible' disorder that is triggered/tripped by a vaccine?

    There's just way to many 'coincidences' to say that there is no correlation, on some level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VenusGoddess View Post
    Sure, there are many children who are autistic and have not been vaccinated.

    However, when the number of autistic children becomes 1 in 150 children...that's a pretty daunting number.

    I have a neighbor who had her child vaccinated at the doctors office and when she got home her child was dead. Tell me that isn't a vaccine-induced death. Completely healthy at the doctors office, gets a 5-in-1 and is dead by the time she gets home 30 minutes later.

    You cannot possibly think that it is NOT ok to handle mercury and aluminum without protective gear...but it IS ok to inject this shit into the kids...and that there cannot POSSIBLY be a link between these toxins and the problems that we are seeing in the kids these days.
    like i said, i'm not saying vaccines are a good thing. but i also do not think they cause autism. there are many, many reasons for the increase in numbers.

    some of those reasons are:
    -the social stigma isn't the same as it was 20, 30 years ago. you arent a "bad" parent and you didn't do something wrong. so accepting the diagnosis isn't some big horrible thing that's going to look bad on you, so you refuse it.
    -it's being diagnosed more, but isn't necessarily more prevalent.
    -the autism spectrum has expanded GREATLY. aspergers, rett's syndrome, pdd-nos, etc.. a child who now will be classified with an autistic code on their IEP may not have been before because the spectrum is larger.
    -schools are geting increased funding when the percentages of special ed students rise, so they're pressing for more testing and pushing for diagnoses.

    i'm also not saying it isn't possible. i'm just saying that people are hunting down a cause so desperately that they just want SOMETHING to blame.

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    I love Jenny McCarthy. Not only is she a total babe, she's funny and she's a committed mother who's facing major challenges with autism.

    I personally can't comment on her vaccine stance. I haven't walked a mile in her shoes as a parent of an autistic child. Hell, I've never had substantial contact with an autistic child, I only know what I've seen on TV.

    I trust science and abhor "pseudoscience".

    Britt, you must have the patience of a saint with these children. Can't be an easy task.

    Edit: man, this thread got rather testy in the couple minutes it took for me to write this. Some of the comments above are passionate, but drenched with sarcasm and hostility. Please lighten up on each other. There's enough hostility in the world already. Autism is a tragic disease. The topic, as well as the posters, deserve more respect.
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