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    The annual baby-seal killing is underway off the coast of Canada.

    They kill the baby-seals by smashing their heads in with a club.

    A boat full of sealers sunk, and 3 or 4 of them died.

    Is it wrong I don't feel bad for them?

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    I'm one of those weirdos who sees little difference between different species dying, so, no. I would feel bad for their families. That's it.

    Flame away.

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    Food is such a popularity contest. We love the cute animals, we eat the ugly ones. "Aww, that baby seal is so cute! Please pass the chicken wings."
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    Quote Originally Posted by lestat1 View Post
    Food is such a popularity contest. We love the cute animals, we eat the ugly ones. "Aww, that baby seal is so cute! Please pass the chicken wings."
    I know eh?

    If you're seriously asking for opinions about whether it's 'wrong' that you don't feel bad...well, it depends on your reasoning.

    I feel as bad for the seal-hunters as I do for any anonymous stranger who dies in a work-related accident.

    These seal clubbers are not mink-wearing, jet-setting monsters, you know. They're often guys from small Northern Canadian towns, where seal clubbing (and whale hunting, and other animal huntings) is a traditional practice. Yes, they are working for big companies, but that's what's available. The amount of men I meet working up north who feel they have no option for 'real' money other than fishing/hunting/logging/clubbing is high. Very high.

    Would it be OK if people were glad that you died because you're a stripper? A lot of people find our work to be abhorrent/unethical.

    I'm not coming down on you guys, especially not if you hold a well thought out belief that you walk the walk of, so to speak, but I think it's worth more than just a "they killed baby animals so they're bad" dismissal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LuvlyDancer View Post
    The annual baby-seal killing is underway off the coast of Canada.

    They kill the baby-seals by smashing their heads in with a club.

    A boat full of sealers sunk, and 3 or 4 of them died.

    Is it wrong I don't feel bad for them?
    What purpose would be served by you feeling bad for them? What purpose is served in feeling bad when anyone dies. We all die, we don't know when or how, but we all gotta go. Not feeling bad doesn't mean you didn't care for someone who passed on. Not feeling bad for someone you don't know, never met, and whose vocation was an outrage to you...well...I wouldn't sweat it.

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    I can't say I feel that sorry for them....or guilty about it


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dottie Rebel View Post
    I'm one of those weirdos who sees little difference between different species dying, so, no. I would feel bad for their families. That's it.

    Flame away.
    No flaming. I agree completely.


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    Can someone please explain to me WHY they club baby seals? I did a google search but no real explanation.

    Is it like here in Texas, where we have deer season, because if the deer get overpopulated they are a pest? Baby deer (bambi) are pretty cute.

    Or is it just for sport?

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    These parts of the Maritimes are poor. Damn poor. Bad soil, bad weather, bad roads. The cod fishery collapsed years ago and these folks have nothing. It is so bad the years ago the Provincial government was trying to consolidate people into a fewer number of larger towns. It is easier to provide the dole that way.

    While clubbing seals is an old custom; it has gained in economic importance as everything else failed.

    So the seals are killed and the fur is harvested and sold to people who do not know or do not care where it comes from.
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    So it's just for money?

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    I find it hard to feel bad for cruel humans like that dying.

    I wouldn't wish a person dead but maybe it's carma?
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    Just because the seals are cute doesn't mean that we should feel happy that some men intending to kill them died.

    Seriously, if a man hunting deer or doves around here was killed, it would be sad. Even if he was hunting cute baby deer.

    What is sadder? A baby animal dying, or an infant son never knowing his father? Does anyone know if these men had children? What about the loyal dog waiting by the door for his human who never comes home?
    You people eat meat right?

    Gosh I don't know. I'm all for cute baby animals, (see I'm in Ur thread!) but I've got to believe that we care more about our fellow humans.

    It always irked me in war movies where soldiers are being shot, gutted, drowned, etc and nobody blinks an eye, but a horse gets shot down and everybody goes awwwwwwwww........

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    [QUOTE=austinatalie;1485651]

    What is sadder? A baby animal dying, or an infant son never knowing his father? Does anyone know if these men had children? What about the loyal dog waiting by the door for his human who never comes home?
    You people eat meat right?

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    just coz u feel diff doesnt mean everyone else should.
    plus i dont think humans are superior or have more of a right to life than animals do so to answer your question i think the baby animal dying is sadder personally.

    i hate the bullshit superiority humans have that they can just take the lives of countless animals but if one human dies we have to all feel sad.
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    btw its not the cuteness factor for me. i cant stand people killing animals. the onyl reason i will accept is for food. there is not other justifiable reason for taking the lives of animals.
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    I don't care if an animal is cute or not. All creatures deserve to be killed humanely.

    I don't like when people step on spiders either.


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    Quote Originally Posted by austinatalie View Post
    So it's just for money?
    The FACTS about the Canadian seal hunt are available in this thread:
    http://www.stripperweb.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=111556

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    Seal hunt is done to keep control of the population since the seals eat the cod.

    The seals are actually for the most part shot now.

    My cousin is part of the seal hunt every year. He said it breaks his heart to do it but it has to be done.

    I have family that relies on fishing for income. In some areas of Canada its all they have.

    PETA makes this out to be far worse then it is.

    Why is it ok to kill a pig for food but the end of the world to kill the seals for control?

    Apparently I just come from a family of cold hearted assholes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LuvlyDancer View Post
    A boat full of sealers sunk, and 3 or 4 of them died.
    Is it wrong I don't feel bad for them?
    I thought I had already said my piece in the thread hb posted a link to but I have to reply to this.

    These guys are doing their job. They do it to put food on the table for their families. They died while in the line of work. It's just as tragic as a construction worker who falls off a building.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lestat1 View Post
    Food is such a popularity contest. We love the cute animals, we eat the ugly ones. "Aww, that baby seal is so cute! Please pass the chicken wings."
    I don't eat any animals, cute or not. There is no excuse for me to when there is no much I can eat to be healthy without ever killing any one.

    It's not about cute to me. I don't care if the seals are cute or ugly, babies or old grandma seals. It's about respect for sentient beings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dottie Rebel View Post
    I don't eat any animals, cute or not. There is no excuse for me to when there is no much I can eat to be healthy without ever killing any one.

    It's not about cute to me. I don't care if the seals are cute or ugly, babies or old grandma seals. It's about respect for sentient beings.
    I can respect that choice Dottie.
    Killing of any creature is a serious matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dottie Rebel View Post
    I don't eat any animals, cute or not. There is no excuse for me to when there is no much I can eat to be healthy without ever killing any one.

    It's not about cute to me. I don't care if the seals are cute or ugly, babies or old grandma seals. It's about respect for sentient beings.
    I agree about respect for sentient beings. However I doubt there is similar universal rejoicing when a non-vegetarian dies. Or when a farmer dies. Or when someone who works in Danier leather dies.
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    I think it's largely due to the image of some huge man smacking a baby seal with a large club while it bleeds to death and squeals for mercy.

    I think that if done humanely and painlessly it's a necessary evil. If it really is men smacking baby seals to death then that's another story.

    Just my two cents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cherry_sin View Post
    I think it's largely due to the image of some huge man smacking a baby seal with a large club while it bleeds to death and squeals for mercy.

    I think that if done humanely and painlessly it's a necessary evil. If it really is men smacking baby seals to death then that's another story.

    Just my two cents.
    This is the "club": Hakapik

    An excerpt from this link:

    Although it is often claimed that the hakapik is an inhumane hunting tool, it is favored by sealers because it allows them to kill the seal without damaging the pelt. Also, with a rifle the sealer runs the risk of hurting, but not killing the seal, causing them to flee, wounded, back into the ocean to die slowly. Further, studies by American veterinary scientists on the use of the Hakapik on the seal hunt carried out on Pribilof Islands of Alaska suggested that it is an efficient tool designed to kill the animal quickly and humanely when used correctly.[2] A report by members of the Canadian Medical Veterinary Association in September 2002 corroborated this claim.[3]

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