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    Last night was packed. I'm talking packed! There were 5 (count em....FIVE!) bachelor parties in the club all at once. I was downstairs "hustling" the whole night when I wasn't 2 girls away from stage. By 12 am, I had a whole $47. (not even enough to cover my house fee + tip out)

    I made it a goal of mine for the night to approach as many people as I could. I approached this one guy and he said "A dance..from YOU? No. I don't want a dance from you." Another guy, as I walked over to him yells "Oh no! You picked the wrong guy. I'm a good 'ol country boy, you're black, we don't mix." Then periodically throughout the night he'd hand me $1 and turn to his friends and say "See, now you can't call me racist." Then at another point in the night he wraps his arm around my waist, makes all his friends look over and kisses my cheek and says "See! See!" (Basically, he was just trying to prove he wasn't "racist" by being "nice" to a woman of color....humiliating.) So after all of this, and constantly being turned down (one guy told me he PROMISED he'd buy a dance from me in a few minutes. I came back a few minutes later and he turned me down, only to go with another girl literally 5 seconds later.) I was depressed and frustrated and went to the dressing room as I could feel the tears welling up.

    I went to the dressing room and just broke down. I couldn't hold it in. I was so embarrassed and frustrated. Every guy I approached told me no and then RIGHT after bought dances from other girls. I ended up getting 2 guys that bought dances.....but they grabbed me. The one guy only bought 1 dance, but he tipped me the normal $20, so I was happy and I was greatful. Then another guy bought a dance for me, tipped me $10, bought another dance, tipped me $40, then bought another dance and tipped me $10. (The club takes $30 and gives me $30, so I made $90 off of him) So thats $120 from both guys that bought dances from me.

    I ended up going home with $160. The other girls' jaws DROPPED when they found out how little I'd made. The new girl (first night was friday night, second night was last night) went home with over $300. Everybody else went home with $900-$2000. I don't understand what I'm doing wrong. I've been told that I'm really good in the lap dance area, I know my stage show sucks though. But my hustle is non-existant it seems. My night was so bad, two other girls tried to sell dances FOR me.

    The other girls were trying to cheer me up and tell me not to quit. They were telling me how long it took them to start selling the way they do. They told me I'm too nice and need to be more aggressive, but my problem is, I don't know how to be aggressive without being rude. Any suggestions? Also, they told me I have to be more confident; I start out that way, but it's hard to keep it up when I get shut down so rudely, also, I don't know how to outwardly exude confidence. I really don't want to quit dancing, but after these past two weeks, I'm wondering if this is for me.

    Here is what I've made during my first two weeks:

    Audition: $20
    Day1: $93
    Day2: $11
    Day3: $213
    Day4: $130
    Day5: $12
    Day6: $43
    Day7: $113
    Day8: $160

    I know it's not a problem with the club being slow, I know for sure that I'M the problem.
    "I Can Sell Raid To A Bug. i'm A Hustler I Can Sell Salt To A Slug" -Cassidy

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    Um....no. Wow....I didn't realize how racist those customers were (I'm white btw so of course I never experienced this). Wanna come to work with me? LOL....the guys in philly love black girls

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    Where are you working? If you don't want to post, you can pm me, or I can try to help w/o knowing.

    I'm asking because maybe if I/we know what club it is(I'm familiar with many in your area), we can give you some advice on that particular club, or advise you to move on to club "so & so".

    Yeah, that kiss on the cheek shit is humiliating, quite presumptuous of him as well, imho.
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    hm, you actually sound like me. I'm too nice and not very aggressive when it comes to hustling and it seems like everyone always makes more money than I do. I'm trying to start to only talk to guys for a few songs before I ask for a dance and I'll take their hand and be like "Let's have some private fun" or usually just straight out ask them for a lapdance and if they say no, I'll go to someone else and keep going around and usually go back and say hi to whoever said no (the ones who said no nicely, not the jerks) and talk for a few minutes and sometimes they have changed their minds.

    Personally, I don't think $160 is terrible. The economy sucks and I know it's an awful feeling that everyone is making more than you but try to focus on yourself and what you are making and if it is enough to pay your bills and be satisfied. And stick it out...you'll learn new techniques as you go along.

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    Damn sweetie, dont let those assholes get you down...just shoot for another club. I havent worked in 3 weeks because Im trying to slim down, so I can work at a upscale club. You are already slim, the sky is the limit with your potential, just keep it moving. I hate working in hood clubs, so I think I would kill it if I was out there. Assholes come in all colors, you just happen to come across a few of them. Turn that assholism into a money maker.....When he says, see im not racist...tell him he wouldnt be racist if he tipped 10s and 20s not 1s. And that kiss will cost him 20...but with a smile. Im nice as well, but it comes a time when that niceness has to go out the window.

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    I'm white and if a club doesnt have black dancers I leave. Only men of taste know how to treat a beautiful queen such as yourself.
    I'm a typical white guy also. Not really into hip-hop but tolerate it because my lady friends are into it. I'm mainly a O S R&B, Reggae kind of guy but I was a Punk Rocker in the mid-eighties and still listen to that music also.....Enough rambling..
    I love black women and have all my life.

    Don't let those shitkickers get you down, they're just ignorant fools.

    Keep your head up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cutey5032 View Post
    Um....no. Wow....I didn't realize how racist those customers were (I'm white btw so of course I never experienced this). Wanna come to work with me? LOL....the guys in philly love black girls
    I may take you up on that. There is a girl at my club that was RAVING about Delilah's in Philly last night, and other clubs in Philly. But she said Delilah's is the #1 ranked club in the country.....hmmmm......Philly is sounding like it's worth the 2 hr. drive.

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    Where are you working? If you don't want to post, you can pm me, or I can try to help w/o knowing.

    I'm asking because maybe if I/we know what club it is(I'm familiar with many in your area), we can give you some advice on that particular club, or advise you to move on to club "so & so".

    Yeah, that kiss on the cheek shit is humiliating, quite presumptuous of him as well, imho.
    I work at The Grandview in Gouldsboro, PA. Thanks in advance for your help.

    Quote Originally Posted by iseestars View Post
    hm, you actually sound like me. I'm too nice and not very aggressive when it comes to hustling and it seems like everyone always makes more money than I do. I'm trying to start to only talk to guys for a few songs before I ask for a dance and I'll take their hand and be like "Let's have some private fun" or usually just straight out ask them for a lapdance and if they say no, I'll go to someone else and keep going around and usually go back and say hi to whoever said no (the ones who said no nicely, not the jerks) and talk for a few minutes and sometimes they have changed their minds.

    Personally, I don't think $160 is terrible. The economy sucks and I know it's an awful feeling that everyone is making more than you but try to focus on yourself and what you are making and if it is enough to pay your bills and be satisfied. And stick it out...you'll learn new techniques as you go along.
    Yeah, I get unemployment compensation, so my bills are covered there. I'm working for money to move. I want to move to Vegas soon and I need back up money, money to move, etc.
    "I Can Sell Raid To A Bug. i'm A Hustler I Can Sell Salt To A Slug" -Cassidy

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    Welcome to the world of stripping

    Where "no" not not necessrily mean no, and "come back in five" means let me see what my options are. Sometimes when guys say no, if I stay for a few minutes they change their minds. It depends on the way they say no. You'll learn.

    When all else fails, find the drunkest guy in the room, pick up his drink and say follow me. It's like putting the carrot in front of the donky. Yeah, I prey on the weak ^_^

    It does get better, you're still new Stripping is a weird world, where some nights you work your ass off and get rejection after rejection and others you just float around the bar and people start fighting over who gets you first.
    The world's most uncoordinated stripper

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    That's in the Poconos basically, right? I have no personal experience in that area.

    However, I will say this, I do personally know 3 girls(Caucasian) that come to Philly on a regular basis (4-5days a week) from up there, and its not because they don't want to work up there., its simply better for them in Philly.

    I think it would definitely be worth a try for you to spread your wings a bit babes.

    Not much, but hth. Please don't hesitate to pm about Philly clubs or surrounding areas, if you decide to venture out.

    Also, when do you plan on leaving the area for LV? I'm asking so I can suggest places for now, or later depending on your requirements
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    "The club takes $30 and gives me $30"
    ^^Did I read that right? 50% blllooowwwwss. If that is the case, then move on to another club.

    I'm so sorry to read what happened to you. That was so embarrassing and humiliating of him to do that to you.

    Like I said before, try other clubs. All you've got is time and thats time to make money.
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    i definitely echo Jayda. come to philly. i've also known several girls that came to philly from the poconos to strip. but instead of letting them get to you, in the meantime, you can make yourself laugh.

    for example, you can make a little sticker that says "douchebag of the night" and you can congratulate guys who are total dicks and give it to them. that way you have the upper hand. "Congratulations! YOU WIN the Douchebag of the Night award!" either slap it on their back or hand it to them. That always makes me laugh during the night.

    Another tip would be to read the bests in HH so you're prepped the whole way through the night.

    The thing is, and it's REALLY hard to get it through anyone's head, when someone is rejecting you, they really aren't rejecting YOU. they're just too cheap to spend on you, and haven't been convinced in the right ways. keep telling yourself how YOU ARE THE HOTTEST girl in the club. when that confidence comes through, your rejections will lessen for sho'.

    Love it!

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    Why Vegas?

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    Aw, sweetie, don't say you suck, it sounds like this clientele sucks!

    I agree with the other ladies, it might do you well to try another atmosphere, it might really change your perspective. As much as it seems that there are tried and true methods to the hustle, there is also always that x-factor or unknown factor where, even when all the ducks are lined up, it still doesn't make sense why things happen the way they do. Sometimes there is some weird energy and it has nothing to do with you.

    I'm sure if you are new, the idea of switching up a club might seem daunting but see if you can try it. I really think these things that the custys are saying to you are unacceptable, these guys need to appreciate your beautiful, sexy self!

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    That fucking sucks. Sorry, kiddo.

    I've had spells like that too, but I can't imagine having to deal with that kind of racist bullshit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sparkleeyz View Post
    Then periodically throughout the night he'd hand me $1 and turn to his friends and say "See, now you can't call me racist." Then at another point in the night he wraps his arm around my waist, makes all his friends look over and kisses my cheek and says "See! See!" (Basically, he was just trying to prove he wasn't "racist" by being "nice" to a woman of color....humiliating.)
    you should have had him thrown out, and you never should have let that get further than the first time.

    this isn't meant to be offensive in any way, but maybe part of the problem is your self esteem/confidence level. it sounds like (based on what i quoted) that you might be a bit of a push-over. guys pick up on that and it translates to them not taking you very seriously.

    like i said, i'm not being mean. hell, i suffer from the same problem... i've just gotten better at pushing through it.

    and.. if you're at a club where the management wouldn't side with you on that issue... run, don't walk, to another club.

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    Where exactly in philly are the clubs jumping i might take that 2 hr drive as well to spread my wing's cause the clubs where i'am at suck as well!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by chatte View Post
    Aw, sweetie, don't say you suck, it sounds like this clientele sucks!
    Exactly. It's not you Sparkle, trust me. We've all been there, where we've had bad nights, feels like no one wants us and we take it personally. Hard not to! And as new as you are? I'm surprised you've got your hustle down so good! Get to a decent club and keep up the good work.

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    "The club takes $30 and gives me $30"
    ^^Did I read that right? 50% blllooowwwwss. If that is the case, then move on to another club.
    That was the first thing I was thinking too! I've never heard of anything like that.
    I worked at Grand view last year for one day with a girlfriend who dragged me out there for some racing convention. Honestly I don't remember them taking that sort of cut but I do remember hating it there and vowing to never return. Your numbers for your first week actually aren't that bad. You have some really bad nights with some OK nights. To me that means you have some potential woman! You have to stop being so hard on yourself and work on your hustle. Start reading through Hustle Hut and get some pointers. It might take months before you feel comfortable and start making some good consistent money. I also think you need to find a club you can thrive in and from your post Grand View doesn't seem like it will work for you. There are a million other clubs out here so like the other poster said "Spread your wings" and explore. You will also build your hustle trying different clubs in the beginning. I know it's hard when you start but it will get better with time. Just remember to stay thick skinned. Most of these guys we won't even give a second glance to if they weren't paying us!

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    Oh helllll no. That guy was an asshole. I couldn't imagine what I'd do if someone acted that way towards me (I'm asian).
    You said the new girl made more money? She just might be used to the kind of hustle that works best in your club b/c she came from a similar one. I'm guessing that if she's white, that might help, too...considering the types of customers it seems like your club attracts.
    I could be wrong, but it seems like your club is based ALOT on regulars, especially considering the new girl didn't make much. From what I've seen, in clubs that ARE NOT primarily "regular based," (where each customer has 1 or 2 specific girls), new girls bank. However in clubs that are mainly run on regulars, new girls don't do well at first no matter how hot they are (unless they get really lucky and 1 customer comes in and spends tons on them.)
    So...considering that you're not used to the hustle of the club AND a new (probably white?) girl started at the same time as you basically which means competition for those non-regulars.........this doesn't mean you suck as a stripper!
    You need to either:
    1. learn the other girls' hustle styles (this may take time( or find one that you feel comfy with that also works in the club
    2. change clubs and never go back
    3. change clubs where it's less "intimidating," learn to hustle more aggressively or however you need to, and then go BACK to your current club (since you know there's potential to make alotta money)

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    Quote Originally Posted by TigersMilk View Post
    "The club takes $30 and gives me $30"
    ^^Did I read that right? 50% blllooowwwwss. If that is the case, then move on to another club.

    I'm so sorry to read what happened to you. That was so embarrassing and humiliating of him to do that to you.

    Like I said before, try other clubs. All you've got is time and thats time to make money.
    Yup, the price is $20 for a VIP dance. You take the guy to the bartender, he pays her $20 and she hands you your time card. (we clock in and out, we have a 5 min. maximum. So we have to tell the guys it's a 5 min. dance, but mgmt tells us to do 4 mins. that way we have 1 min to clock in and out.) If the guy only does one dance, the dancer takes her time card to the bartender who counts the mins. between your time in and time out on the card. If you kept it at 5 mins, she hands you $10 (half of what the guy paid for the dance) if you went over 5 mins, the club keeps the $20 and you get nothing. (Unless the guy tipped you for the dance, it's customary to tip at least $20 for the dance, but a lot of guys don't and we can't force them to. So if I don't get a tip, I just did a 5 min dance for $10. Then we pay the house fee of course ($15 if you are on time, then $30 if you're 10 mins late and it increases by $15 every half hour after that.) And we have to tip the dj a minimum of $20 (they always bitch if you only give them $20) and we tip the bartender. So every night, the first $35 I make is not mine.

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    you should have had him thrown out, and you never should have let that get further than the first time.

    this isn't meant to be offensive in any way, but maybe part of the problem is your self esteem/confidence level. it sounds like (based on what i quoted) that you might be a bit of a push-over. guys pick up on that and it translates to them not taking you very seriously.

    like i said, i'm not being mean. hell, i suffer from the same problem... i've just gotten better at pushing through it.

    and.. if you're at a club where the management wouldn't side with you on that issue... run, don't walk, to another club.
    Actually, I'm a LOT of a push-over. And no, I don't think you're being mean. I know you are really looking out for me. Letting people walk all over me is something I definately need to work on; not even just for work, but in my life too. I just happen to be one of those people who confuse assertiveness with being rude and I don't want to be rude. I think I need to take a sales course. They're pushy without being rude. And you're right, I shouldn't have let it get to that point. Although, I'm not sure security at my club would put him out for being nasty toward me. THAT sucks ass.


    I just wanted to take a moment to say thank you to everyone that provided feedback for me in this thread. I know I post a lot like this lately and I don't want anyone to think I'm really needy and I'm fishing for compliments. I'm really not, it's just that I only trust the girls at work to help me to a certain extent, I know that they need to make money too and even though they are all wonderful people, I have sense enough to know that they won't FULLY help my hustle, because the less I sell, the more money there is for them to make.

    Oh! And someone (sorry, can't remember) asked why I wanted to move to Vegas. I've always wanted to live on the west coast and I initially wanted to move to Cali, but it's too expensive, not a good place to strip (so I hear)etc. So I've done some research and decided Vegas is a nice alternative.
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    Sparkleeyez don't quit and please DO NOT GO BACK TO THAT CLUB!!! You are to nice and to good for that bullshit! And from what I heard you're a great stripper, but the situation Isn't right for you. That Philly suggestion is the best idea for you. It's worth it to try a few places in Philly and there is good money. They're also not so racist, although wherever you go there will be people who don't like black people. Good luck and quit ASAP! Don't even go back! It will break your confidence.

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    You'll be happier when you move to Vegas. You have that to look forward to.

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    That is the most fucked up private dance situation I've every heard of. Everyone in the free world knows dances are songs long, not minutes long. I can't imagine to pressure you'd be under to get timed out so you could make money! And then only half? Honey, eff that.

    Get thee to Philly!!

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    Hopefully this will help...

    1) Perhaps you aren't approaching the 'right' kind of customer. Personally, I know a lot of girls who don't look that special, but for whatever reason, they can literally walk up to any guy, ask for a dance, and succeed consistently! However, I can't do this! One of my best strategies is to pay attention to the custies who come up to my stage. Rather than focusing on my dance, I'll try to figure out who is most interested in what I'm doing, and then focus my hustle on these people. Don't get too caught up in your stage time: I know plenty of girls who aren't good dancers, but who use their stage time to hustle dances...and they are earning good money!! By doing this, you will make less money off of lots of people, and will likely make more money off of just a few people: but who cares where the $$ comes from!

    2) Individualize the hustle. Try to become 'people smart,' and figure out which people tend to be interested in you. Soon, you should be able to pick them out of a crowd. Personally, I've found that I tend to only go over well with more mature customers (25y+), and these are the people I approach first. If you know that you don't do well with younger people, yet these are the ones you approach, then you are guaranteed to be in a sour mood all night!

    3) Try to have fun. I know for a fact that I can very easily put off a bad 'vibe' when I feel like I'm not making money. Even with a smile on my face and a hop in my step, custies can sense when I'm pissed. Do your best to approach each interaction with a fresh personality, and to shrug off/learn from your 'failures.'

    4) When you go on stage, be sure to choose something that YOU like to listen to: one of those tracks that you would start dancing to in a dance club. Even if the custies hate the song, it will be so obvious that you are enjoying your stage time that this will immediately make you more attractive. I also use good music to raise my mood when I know I'm putting off bad vibes (from a long week, or whatever).

    I hope that helps a bit!!

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    Default Re: I fucking SUCK as a stripper

    Quote Originally Posted by Pretty_Penny View Post
    this isn't meant to be offensive in any way, but maybe part of the problem is your self esteem/confidence level. it sounds like (based on what i quoted) that you might be a bit of a push-over. guys pick up on that and it translates to them not taking you very seriously.

    i suffer from the same problem... i've just gotten better at pushing through it.
    What specifically have you changed to push through it?
    "Don't piss off a motivated stripper."


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