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    ^^ Testify, Optimist. I totally agree on all counts.

    My original 'Don't Go' plea for Bridgette got etherized in the original thread, but I'll say it again. Don't!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Optimist View Post
    I'll add that when people argue it's OK!!!!! No one is going to die over it. Why delete an entire thread instead of one or two off topic or abusive posts?!!!! Every thread is a chunk of interaction and investment in being heard, in nurturing the community. Every time someone invests time and passion into communicating only to see it instantly trashed they're given the message that this is all futile. That's what this is about! It's not kindergarten, we don't all have to get along and agree.
    I deleted the threads because they were no longer helpful. They were mostly filled with drama that spilled over from "everyone is leaving" and full of insults.

    B, I hope you take the time to cool off. If not I understand where you are coming from. I'm leaving this thread open if people can act like adults.
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    Wow... I go off to win a pie contest and I miss stuff? Everything always seems to happen when I'm gone..............

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    Ive hardly been online for the last week so Ive no idea whats been going on I do relate to some of the things mentioned though.
    All the best Bridgette, and thank you for the contributions youve made over the years! (-:

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    This sucks. I can deal with some other people leaving, but one of the key members of the site?

    It's when the people like Bridgette, who is like a cornerstone of this place, get fed up with this bullshit... well... maybe it is worth leaving. This place sure as hell isn't what it used to be. And not to be a nostalgic/elitist bitch, it was a whole lot better back then.



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    everything sure went to hell in a hand basket in the last month.

    this sucks.

    also, i feel like i'm either out of the loop or am a giant fucking hippie. am i the only person on this board who doesn't have a problem with anyone? i mean, not kissing ass or anything (HOLYGODFORBID). maybe i'm just not as involved/invested. i just keep reading all these threads and being torn between so many decent people at odds with each other. sure, there are a few exceptions i suppose, but for the most part it all seems to boil down to misunderstanding.

    at least, from where i sit........ which is apparently obliviousville.

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    All I keep thinking is who is next? It seems like alot of people who have been here for a while are fed up .

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    Yeah, me too. I get fed up with stuff sometimes and need a break, but I reckon I'm like SW built-in furniture. For better or worse. heh <<<<<<<<<< you said that in the other thread, you said for better or for worse, you don't want to lie to us do you?! huh ? huh?

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    Bridgette, you are such a valuable part of this site. I actually think about you when I'm having trouble at work. What would Bridgette do?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TigersMilk View Post
    I deleted the threads because they were no longer helpful. They were mostly filled with drama that spilled over from "everyone is leaving" and full of insults.

    B, I hope you take the time to cool off. If not I understand where you are coming from. I'm leaving this thread open if people can act like adults.
    My comments weren't directed to you specifically TM. My comments are directed toward all the mods. We're not a bunch of unruly children that need to be slapped down when one or two goes over the top. The cure is more damaging than the disease!! Bickering is irritating but oftentimes (this weekend notwithstanding) nuking the whole thread without so much as a warning to the offenders is over the top as well. I think it adds to the overall frustration.

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    ^Strap on her shoes and do another 1,000 dances. That's what B would do.



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    You know it really breaks my heart we're losing some amazing members here.

    Bridgette... Cameron.... Katrine....Nina..... *sigh*

    Like HK I truly miss the good ol days of SW...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Callyish View Post
    You know it really breaks my heart we're losing some amazing members here.

    Bridgette... Cameron.... Katrine....Nina..... *sigh*

    Like HK I truly miss the good ol days of SW...
    Hey, you threatened to slow the posting too.

    I'm way bummed.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Pretty_Penny View Post


    everything sure went to hell in a hand basket in the last month.

    this sucks.

    also, i feel like i'm either out of the loop or am a giant fucking hippie. am i the only person on this board who doesn't have a problem with anyone? i mean, not kissing ass or anything (HOLYGODFORBID). maybe i'm just not as involved/invested. i just keep reading all these threads and being torn between so many decent people at odds with each other. sure, there are a few exceptions i suppose, but for the most part it all seems to boil down to misunderstanding.

    at least, from where i sit........ which is apparently obliviousville.
    Yup the shit finally hit the fan!

    I don't think that people are turning against each other either, its just that people are finally being honest about how they really feel about one another and about the direction of the site. This is why so many of us had issues with all the fluff- i wub you- crap being spewed on to the boards; not only is it irritating but people weren't being genuine.

    The explosion that we are seeing here is long over due IMO; it was inevitable.


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    Quote Originally Posted by hardkandee View Post
    Hey, you threatened to slow the posting too.

    I'm way bummed.
    Im slowing my posting for many reasons. One being I can't stand the fluff anymore(even though I used to be part of it... what WAS I thinking?) another being the bitchyness and the main reason being I just don't have time for it anymore. Obviously there will be the odd day when im stuck in some sick town and have nothing else to do and will kill time on SW but yea... im not around as much anymore.

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    what the hell is goin on?? i agree with what u said about the neurotic moderator becuz i remember one of my first posts on here years ago i was scrutinized by said person, now i just choose to ignore and laugh to myself at the cattiness.
    ah anyway for some reason, i dont think u will fully leave forever, but good luck and best wishes!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by seraya View Post
    Yup the shit finally hit the fan!

    I don't think that people are turning against each other either, its just that people are finally being honest about how they really feel about one another and about the direction of the site. This is why so many of us had issues with all the fluff- i wub you- crap being spewed on to the boards; not only is it irritating but people weren't being genuine.

    The explosion that we are seeing here is long over due IMO; it was inevitable.
    Agreed

    I'll add this. All the lubby-dubby shit really seems fake now, cuz if "we" were really the family that everyone pretends to be, you wouldn't really leave.

    Just saying, it would take plenty more than some corny-ass internet drama, to make me turn my back on my family.

    Maybe its cuz I'm Black, but if I disowned every family member that pissed me off, I'd be a total orphan. I'm used to squabbles., and they're about more serious shit than keystrokes.

    Its like when ur a kid, you can talk shit about your mama, but let another mother-phucker (outside the family) say shit, and its face to the gravel!

    Everybody (for the most part) in the family stuck up for Cam, and nobody wants her to vanish.

    Bridgette, imho, should at least wait until whatever "changes" that her and Pryce discussed are put in motion, and then decide.
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    Dear Sw-ers?

    From an outsiders point of view, may I just say a few things. By no means am I passing judgement or pointing fingers. So, let us try this with an open mind.

    Again as an outsider, reading the "I'm leaving" threads only 5% of them seem genuine with more than "my feelings are crushed because I was bullied or the drama .." Bridg seems to be the only one that sincerely came out and said legitimate reasons on why she's leaving, that she kept ALL of that to herself and when the time was right she exited a situation and community that was no longer wanted/need or desired. (not trying to put words in your mouth)

    However, many others say it and really have no intention of taking breaks, or going away. And its' like a parade has to follow. Threads upon threads of it. Why not take your well wishes and please stays to an email or to the inboxes? Is it really that needed to fill up a board with the same banter? If someone truly wanted no drama, or was sick of it they would go about it in the most calm, reasonable manner possible. Not doing so is pretty much a clear sign of their true character.

    It seems as though the reasons why there is so much dramatics, is due to an influx of new people and barely no longer new people. The riff begins. I honestly don't see the "vets" being cruel. I see people that have been here a year or less with high post counts being cruel, spited and the girls we roll our eyes at in the dressing rooms.

    IMO there would be less drama if, you held no high position to simply say to those you ARE friends with in PM's that you are leaving the site, please be in touch. Why the threads? With the exception of Bridg who has been here as long as she has and her position...there is really no need. Without a doubt those that say they are departing are lurking waiting to see the drama unfold. It feeds them. And while you believe you know someone so well, truth be told (and its been said in several threads) you never really know anyone till it's all said and done with. Even then you are almost left puzzled. People let you see what they want your perception of them to be.

    This is a place where like any other forum, or online community there are more opinions being thrown around in a shit storm because we are almost fictional characters. There is no hard feelings, no having to run into one another later at work or real confrotations going on. It's just WORDS.

    The scenerio I can relate this to, just to simplify it is this. We are all in a locker room. When the new girl leaves or the girl that's "gifted" from a REGULAR or said something stupid the night prior...everyone (who isn't out on the floor making money..aka going to work that day) sits and makes cracks behind their backs. Then later ass kisses to smooth it over.

    I do not know TOO. I think it's great he helped out those that needed it. BUT, he did it in a chest thumping way as in "look at me". Personally in reading the posts, I feel if he would keep it private this would be little issue. But when it's almost thrown in others faces, or seems as so..it does strike as that regular that comes in showers everyone gifts and doesn't tip you a fucking dime. If you are going to bring something to class, be prepared to share with everyone. Otherwise, keep it on the down low. Doing that (the keeping it to yourself) makes it where it's personal to that person. A true gift and it can't be taken as a "Look at me!". Gifts are given out of generosity not to boast.

    While this site is free and you "pay for what you get" that doesn't mean that the basics cannot function. Because, once upon a time they had. With all the tech geeks around here, that would surely do it in a heartbeat just to make things easier it wouldn't be much to ask for the favor and have it taken care of.

    This isn't exclusive to SW this is on a lot of forums. Beyond trolls, there are egos and personalities we all create and live through. Sometimes all of that gets in the way.

    If you don't want to add to the drama, or cannot have an open mind and share opinions with others to expand yourself (doesn't mean you have to agree) then say nothing at all. Manners. They should spill over onto everything you do.

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    I like the "goodbye cruel world threads" because it lets me know who's leaving and why.Im extremely nosy.

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    Everyone needs to stop taking this site so seriously. It's the internet. Jeez.

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    I wasn't sure I wanted to speak up when i first was told about this elsewhere, but after reading your explanation, and the responses, I felt the need to speak.

    We are IRL friends IMO, and without SW I would never have met you on 3 different occasions, even allowing you to stay in my house. And I fully agree on all counts (other than Jenny, but that my opinion there, and I have never had issue with her), and the ass-kissing and REALLY ridiculous "chest-thumping" manner described three posts above has been a topic of my anguish and my OWN desire to not be on SW.

    I think it's true that the ass kissers and the lovey dovey fake bullshit and the gifts ruined my home on the internet. Katrine said the same thing. This was/is our home on the internet, and just like I'll miss her, I'll miss you too. I consider myself lucky enough to have the ability to contact you both outside of SW.

    But yes, what you said, what optimist said and what JustJayda said (we want to give) is allllll true.

    Give SW another chance, and don't go, but if you must, you must. i know you'll KIT with me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ViolaStrings View Post
    Everyone needs to stop taking this site so seriously. It's the internet. Jeez.
    I agree. But, for many people (and this is no shitty remark) this is their only social outlet. Be it from phobias etc. So, they do take things a bit more personal than others in most cases.

    I agree with you, and what many others have said. What's most prevailing is, those that feel they are in an abusive relationship/situation and know their self worth will take themselves out.

    Those that feel that they have no self worth or lack self esteem will cling to something that is so obviously unhealthy for them to be in, let alone maintain.

    This runs from online, to in real life. It's sad. And coupled with financial hardships, personal issues at home a lot of people obsess completely in a fantasy world. Which only on few occasions can intermix with their real lives.

    I think those that get personally hurt but comments and backlashes from people they do NOT know in real life, need to take a hard long look at how mentally and emotionally stable they actually are as well where they need to be focusing all their energy and time that's being spent here. Whether it's schmoozing or arguing. Because you don't become needy, dependent and destroyed over fantasy relationships unless there is an underlying issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bridgette View Post
    Every other poster (who I might add had WAY less invested in this community than me) who leaves or wants to stir shit up gets a longass thread dedicated to their FUCK OFF and mine gets censored. Yet another example of why I will not be back to StripperHell, brought to you by The Other Owner.
    I'm very sorry that your departure thread was censored. Anybody who read that thread would have seen that I was imploring you to stay. I was the third poster in the thread saying that I admire you tremendously and you were and are a huge asset to the community. Both you and I have known each other for long enough that we can both put up with the back-and-forth, even if sometimes it feels like you are hammering me with sucker-punches or smacking me around within an inch of my life.

    I was also upset that your rather pointed comments directed at me in the "get along" thread disappeared. I wrote a humorous reply to your post which I thought was kinda funny and when I discovered your thread had disappeared, I asked TL to restore the thread with my reply and your original material, e.g. your original comments about me, and lock it if she wanted. But I thought your original comments and my reply should both stay.

    Look, I've just written this on blue, but I deeply admire your willingness to speak what you believe to be truth to power. "Speak truth to power" is a sign of character and persistence. In my case it's more like "perceived power," but you are very direct with Pryce and the mods as well. You have hammered me within an inch of my life before on this site, but it's never stopped me from insisting that you have your say every single time (to the extent any of the mods listen to me) and never stopped me from admiring you, and kidding around with you and telling you what a fabulous job you did setting up the gift exchange and other areas where we agree ever since we met for the first time in Vegas.

    I am deeply saddened by your departure and I implore you to reconsider and help us to build this community.

    Seriously, Bridgette, please consider returning. You will be deeply missed here.

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    Do what makes you happiest B. I have fond SW memories thanks to you.

    I'll always be a fan.
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    I think this site would be better if we could weed out all the non-dancers and take it back to a stripper site.

    The way the site was a few years ago was the bomb. We had some non-strippers and customers here and there, but overall...it was mainly strippers coming online to chat and decompress after a long night at work.

    Now...it's like never leaving the club. The dancers that are here are getting meaner, nastier, and more rude, condescending and needing to take some prozac. The customers here are becoming more overwhelming and it's annoying.

    I'm tired of the "changes coming" comment which has been said since I started her over 4 (?) years ago. See a problem with the site? Don't worry...I'm implementing changes...changes are coming, be patient. And, how long has a "fundraiser" been in the works...even though there has been a number of people wanting to send in money only to be told that there is no way to take online payments? WTF? Do you want money or not?

    This is NOT my only outlet. But, it was nice to be able to talk shop with other dancers without the backstabbing, bitchiness that goes on at work. Now, you might as well stay at work, you get the same thing here.

    The site is either going to take money or do a damn fundraiser. I'm tired of all the "changes" in the works and never coming to fruition. I also agree that if Pryce doesn't have/doesn't want to put in the time for this site, then he should let it go to someone who will take the time for it. We've actually lost a lot of good veteran members BECAUSE of the problems on this site. And that's sad.

    Unfortunately, we'll be losing more. But, whatever. We've been asked on zillions of occasions what we thought needed to be done, etc. We've answered zillions of times with the hope that it would happen soon...and yet still years later and nothing has changed.

    Why bother at this point? It's just like hanging the carrot in front of the bunny's nose.

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