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    I never freestyled at bars because it was too many girls. But since I go after certain highly paid blue-collar workers; I go to certain restaurants and other places to freestyle. It is hell of better than wasting time combing through sugar sites for guys. I never go what I desired from sugar sites. However, it depends on your region, who want to freestyle with, and your look.
    Not to rain on anyone's parade, but the SD sites are dead now, or infected with Splenda & salt... SD sites were great until about 2014, and even then, it was weak -- 2009-2012 were the rockin' years. Better use of time to simply put ads on legit ad spots, or prowl your club for that SD, and get paying customers, IMHO. XO
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    I have to freestyle. The sd sites don't work for me. I have a gnd/sexy nerd look so guys go for me because "a nice girl like you wouldn't know about that lifestyle."

    So when I start asking favors/$ I look like a friend that needs help not a SB (that's how it should be anyway)
    I'm not sure if "that's how it 'should' be," as what SHOULD be is that you meet a dude who understands the situation and is on the same page. You shouldn't have to spend that much energy manipulating the situation & custie (because that's what he actually is). It becomes super emotionally draining and never ends well. Better to be upfront and direct and get what you really want and need. That's how men speak, what they understand, and most important to getting your desired results, what they respect... an in your face, straightforwardness.
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    ^It sounds like she's going about it in a roundabout sort of way. Some dudes are not aware they are in essence what could be considered - sugar daddies. I think her method to get the guy to see her as a special friend he wants to help out is perhaps a strategy for those men who would get red flags (like oh youre a pro? or damn you're gold digger?) if mentioning material desires isn't done in a certain way.

    I see what she is doing as taking a 'back door approach' but yeah once you're in there gotta start talking (in a way the man can hear you) cause close mouths don't get fed.

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    ^It sounds like she's going about it in a roundabout sort of way. Some dudes are not aware they are in essence what could be considered - sugar daddies. I think her method to get the guy to see her as a special friend he wants to help out is perhaps a strategy for those men who would get red flags (like oh youre a pro? or damn you're gold digger?) if mentioning material desires isn't done in a certain way.

    I see what she is doing as taking a 'back door approach' but yeah once you're in there gotta start talking (in a way the man can hear you) cause close mouths don't get fed.
    I see your point. Having worked the sugar bowl fairly intensively, I have had to learn many lessons the hard way. By the time I checked out, I was completely fried because I had extended myself in too many directions trying to figure out the best approach. My feelings about anything related to getting paid on any level in selling your sex, meaning just even simply your vibe, is to be in the immediate environment where that is possible. The strip clubs, the sugar daddy sites, the escort services, independent escorting, the pro dungeons, the camming sites -- locations where you will actually and directly interact with men who understand the quid pro quo. When I am out freestyling, I tell people what I am and what I do. I do not care to waste my time with those who don't get it or are not interested. It's a good way to cut to the chase and save yourself your valuable & limited energy. Also, when a guy gets worked and played, which is basically what going in a roundabout way is, they get incredibly angry. This puts the sugar baby in danger. Men can be very unpredictable when they are angry. "Men are afraid that women will laugh at them, women are afraid that men will kill them." ~ Margaret Atwood
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    Ohhh....Thanks

    That makes sense. Because if they are in these environments then they are in some sense okay with shelling out cash on the front end without too much emotional connection first.

    The 'freestyling' .... that was the gray area - in my mind. Because you're meeting them in vanilla spaces. But you said you just tell them flat out whats up which most likely saves you time and effort because they can either take it or leave it.

    A lot of people have mentioned the book Ho Tactics and in it, it seems to be written for the ladies that go about it in the roundabout way. However it does say that they should get in and get out. Get out before the guy feels like he is being used. And be willing to walk away with nothing. Don't let greed get you jammed up. Like 6 months tops is the average.

    But you do have a point - some of these men go batshit if they get overly emotional and feel like they were misled

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    Ohhh....Thanks

    That makes sense. Because if they are in these environments then they are in some sense okay with shelling out cash on the front end without too much emotional connection first.

    The 'freestyling' .... that was the gray area - in my mind. Because you're meeting them in vanilla spaces. But you said you just tell them flat out whats up which most likely saves you time and effort because they can either take it or leave it.

    A lot of people have mentioned the book Ho Tactics and in it, it seems to be written for the ladies that go about it in the roundabout way. However it does say that they should get in and get out. Get out before the guy feels like he is being used. And be willing to walk away with nothing. Don't let greed get you jammed up. Like 6 months tops is the average.

    But you do have a point - some of these men go batshit if they get overly emotional and feel like they were misled
    Yeah, it's much easier to find that guy in the direct environment. Freestyling is more often a waste of time, but you never know, and if you make it a point to talk to at least 10 men a night, if you get one bite, that's not bad. In a city like mine, Manhattan, it's not a bad idea to simply go out and take a chance, rather than sitting home watching TV, or sitting by the phone waiting for bookings, or whatever avenue of SW you are doing if not on a regimented schedule like a club...

    Ho Tactics is a great guide and a recommended read for any woman seeking to sugar or go about any route of sexwork, even seasoned pros can benefit from the writing.

    I guess when women are younger they have more patience to play the game required to get to their end goals. As women mature, we usually find that being more direct gets better results -- part of why younger guys love being around mature women, as they constantly share that they feel younger women play too many games, so by the time younger dude matures, he's pretty hip to the games young ladies play, and thus, he isn't always an easy close.

    The bottom line is every gal should figure out her comfort zone and what works for her. It's a vast playing field and there is room for everyone to do well, whatever their style & approach is. Oh, and yes, one last but not least thing... attitude & OPTIMISM about it all is probably the secret sauce to success in the game -- any game...

    P.S. I tried to send you a private email saying thanks for all the chats, as we seem to meet up on common threads, but you are HUGELY popular, so much so that you cannot receive any more email until you clear your box out... so yeah, thanks for the chats. You're a cool & smart lady. :-)
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    Depends on where you live I guess
    I'm in London, 8 million people and way too many tourists. It seems like every place is just filled with families

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoneyMachado View Post
    Depends on where you live I guess
    I'm in London, 8 million people and way too many tourists. It seems like every place is just filled with families
    I thought London has a super-charged clubbing/nightlife scene? Hit the clubs. You won't find mom & pop with the kiddies there... or at least hopefully not!! lol
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    Thank you. Another reason why sex work is better in this option

    The rich are far too isolated here, you have to be out everyday just to meet them.

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    Thank you. Another reason why sex work is better in this option

    The rich are far too isolated here, you have to be out everyday just to meet them.
    You have to do that anywhere you are. They generally don't just hang around all over the place. You have to find their environments, be welcomed in, look, act, be the part, etc. or... go & be exactly where they are and know the deal, in the SWer environments...
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    That's my issue, I do (Mayfair, Kensington, Chelsea) they're either not there( rich and available) or it's filled with tourists but I'm just going to be more aggressive!

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    Honey, have you tried going to polo and cricket matches to find rich guys? Maybe attend an yachting event as well? I believe that you are searching for more high-class men and they are often at those matches.

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    That's my issue, I do (Mayfair, Kensington, Chelsea) they're either not there( rich and available) or it's filled with tourists but I'm just going to be more aggressive!
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    ^It sounds like she's going about it in a roundabout sort of way. Some dudes are not aware they are in essence what could be considered - sugar daddies. I think her method to get the guy to see her as a special friend he wants to help out is perhaps a strategy for those men who would get red flags (like oh youre a pro? or damn you're gold digger?) if mentioning material desires isn't done in a certain way.

    I see what she is doing as taking a 'back door approach' but yeah once you're in there gotta start talking (in a way the man can hear you) cause close mouths don't get fed.
    �� Right on! I meet guys on tinder and once we date twice I will bring up an arrangement. If they act like they dk what I'm talking about I find a new trick

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    Quote Originally Posted by DonaDiabla View Post
    Honey, have you tried going to polo and cricket matches to find rich guys? Maybe attend an yachting event as well? I believe that you are searching for more high-class men and they are often at those matches.
    You're right. I think I'm going to do this aswell as invest more money in private members clubs and gyms. Thank you I appreciate it.

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    i hate to be ask to be spoon fed but i just found out i need to move in 2 weeks. so i need cash ASAP

    i tried whatsyourprice and guys are not offering more than 100 - tho i have heard of girls getting $300-$500 so im hopefull

    and also

    esablishedmen - which is garbage.

    if anyone could recommend a decent site to save me time signing up on a bunch i would appreciate it.
    I am browsing the thread but it almost seems like no one wants to posts the sites they do well on publicly. thanks
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    Well I think most people who have done the sites (especially nowadays) reported that they had little success and were finding sd in real life via free styling, etc.

    You would probably have to do your own testing regardless of what anyone says here cause each persons experience may be different due to a number of factors.

    Hire a trustworthy virtual assistant to sign you up on the sites (I’m sure you could get this done for less than $50)

    You’re better off hitting the strip club if you need cash in 2 weeks than relying on dudes who might not come through, turn out to be salt or Splenda daddies, etc

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    Hey there! Although many people report sites being unsuccessful for them, I've had a few very successful arrangments using SeekingArrangement which is just seeking.com now. If you set up your profile in the right way you can easily weed out splendas/salts and find a good few. The only reason I haven't had more arrangements personally is just due to not trying harder at the moment (I'm in an awful area geographically). But SA has done me well even being in a not so good area.

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    Honestly, I would say that if you need money that fast than you could do stripping and online work such as phone sex. Only stripping can have super fast results. You can also try Millionaire Match, Date A Millionaire, as well Luxy those guys on there are apart of the one percent. Now, you have to watch Luxy as I believe they are still voting everyone in before you can use their site. You can also try looking for guys on the Inner Circle as they have many young professionals into sugaring on there if they are not looking for their trophy wives. Good Luck



    Quote Originally Posted by h0ttie View Post
    i hate to be ask to be spoon fed but i just found out i need to move in 2 weeks. so i need cash ASAP

    i tried whatsyourprice and guys are not offering more than 100 - tho i have heard of girls getting $300-$500 so im hopefull

    and also

    esablishedmen - which is garbage.

    if anyone could recommend a decent site to save me time signing up on a bunch i would appreciate it.
    I am browsing the thread but it almost seems like no one wants to posts the sites they do well on publicly. thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by miss.a.p1600 View Post
    Well I think most people who have done the sites (especially nowadays) reported that they had little success and were finding sd in real life via free styling, etc.

    You would probably have to do your own testing regardless of what anyone says here cause each persons experience may be different due to a number of factors.

    Hire a trustworthy virtual assistant to sign you up on the sites (I’m sure you could get this done for less than $50)

    You’re better off hitting the strip club if you need cash in 2 weeks than relying on dudes who might not come through, turn out to be salt or Splenda daddies, etc
    Agreed, 100%. Fast-hustle sugaring can be done if you're an escort (meeting potential SDs for dinners / dates and hustling them into pay for play). But as a non-sexual SB (years ago), it took me a lot of time and filtering to find good opportunities. You can't really control how quickly you'll find a good fit - just like with vanilla online dating, there are only so many factors in your control.

    Dancing is almost always the best option for fast, legal money.

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    Agreed, 100%. Fast-hustle sugaring can be done if you're an escort (meeting potential SDs for dinners / dates and hustling them into pay for play). But as a non-sexual SB (years ago), it took me a lot of time and filtering to find good opportunities. You can't really control how quickly you'll find a good fit - just like with vanilla online dating, there are only so many factors in your control.

    Dancing is almost always the best option for fast, legal money.
    I agree. A few years ago when I was in a pinch I fast hustled in a major metropolitan area and was so glad it worked out for me. HOWEVER (big catch here) my only good "catch" on Seeking Arrangement was a one-off situation and the other guys I dealt with ranged from lame/weird to creepy/potentially dangerous.

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    i am not too desperate as i cam and im on daily pay. however it would be nice to go on a date and be paid $300 or something.
    or maybe just run into a guy who would love to save me from my moving dilemma.

    anyway thanks for the advice some really helpful stuff has been shared.

    i signed up on verify him (is that the name?) so hopefully they approve that soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by h0ttie View Post
    i am not too desperate as i cam and im on daily pay. however it would be nice to go on a date and be paid $300 or something..
    Protip- always throw out a high number when you negotiate dates- if you bargain down at least you get the minimum, and the guy understands the score.

    ALL of these guys will pressure you for ...what they want whether you charge a little or a lot for meeting.

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    ^^ btw thanks ur tips have been super helpful


    ive been saying 300 and they usually settle for 250 or 200. which i'm still ok with if i can tell they are gonna be easy to deal with.

    should i start with 400-500? That feels so high but they like all claim they make 300k plus lmao
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    Quote Originally Posted by charlie61 View Post
    Agreed, 100%. Fast-hustle sugaring can be done if you're an escort (meeting potential SDs for dinners / dates and hustling them into pay for play). But as a non-sexual SB (years ago), it took me a lot of time and filtering to find good opportunities. You can't really control how quickly you'll find a good fit - just like with vanilla online dating, there are only so many factors in your control.

    Dancing is almost always the best option for fast, legal money.
    yeah im learning its complicated to find a sugar daddy cuz they all wanna meet and talk and text and ofc most expect sex. im gonna see if i can kinda use the other sites tactics and get them to pay for a coffee or dinner date. ive never danced so thats out of the question and no escorting....its almost like i need an assistant to weed thru the bs and find me potential easy cash lmao
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    Quote Originally Posted by SnuffleUffleGrass View Post
    I agree. A few years ago when I was in a pinch I fast hustled in a major metropolitan area and was so glad it worked out for me. HOWEVER (big catch here) my only good "catch" on Seeking Arrangement was a one-off situation and the other guys I dealt with ranged from lame/weird to creepy/potentially dangerous.
    can i ask what you said to get them to meet and spend fast?? these guys seem sooooo slow. like i mean i get they arent trying to make moving money but still ...so much small talk that leads no where ive been experiencing
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