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    so my friend who doesnt frequent strip clubs visited my club to see me a lot of the girls who went up to him were really fucked up in the head and idiotic. I ask him if this is so then why do they make more money than i do? He says its because guys want slutty girls when they go to clubs and theyre intimidated by intelligent women so they want dumb girls. Is this true? I would think that men who want an hour in the champagne room would want to spend it with someone intelligent who isnt a total whorebag, but am I incorrect in thinking this?

    Also, if a girl starts grinding against you as she talks to you, does it make you more likely to buy a dance? I never do this because i see it as giving away what you should be getting paid for, but i see some girls do it and it works, but it feels too risky to me. I'm thinking some customers might find it skanky or not want to buy a dance because shes already touching him for free.

    i work at a "classy" gentlemans club so this is why im worried that the whole slutty and dumb act might not work.

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    Well I've been dancing for a while(long while) and I've noticed the stupid and slutty less chatty thing works best on most custys.But are you willing to dumb yourself down for the money?I personally can't.And it seems that the type of custy that you get with this behavior isn't a very classy gentleman type (Ha!Lol).I'd rather make less money and be me and not pretend to be a dumb putz.

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    ^^^ Ditto.

    I'm going to guess the dumb act is just less intimidating for men. I mean, being beautiful is probably already intimidating for them. Beauty and smarts probably scares some of them.

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    ^ hey, we're already getting naked and shaking our ass for money, being dumb is just part of the stripper persona, and i'll be what you want me to be if its making me more money.with some guys i can afford to be my smartypants self, but the other 80% i just giggle and twirl my hair. you're there to make money, not have philosophical discussions, and most men are there to escape from smart women into a fantasy of dumb slutty hotties
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    Speaking only for myself, dumb and slutty takes a back seat to smart and proper every time. As I see it, if a girls comes over and acts like a total airhead or slut, I'd have to be an even bigger idiot to pay for her attention. A few weeks back a new girl came over to me and said "Hi, let's go in the booth play hide and seek and I'll see if I can find your cock". I wanted to say " get away from me" but opted for a polite "no thank you, I'm all set". Now I wouldn't have danced with this girl even if she had approached me differently, but had she been my type and approached me this way, she'd still have lost out.
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    I've bought and enjoyed dances from both. I like the variety.

    eta: you could do a variation: smart & classy, but very horny.

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    Dumb people = just say no, but I guess some guys like it. It's impossible to be all things to all people, but maybe you can try to read the guy and adjust accordingly?

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    What's with the mutual exclusiveness? How about smart and slutty? I mean as far as I'm concerned, the hottest thing a dancer can do is be very deliberate about what she's doing.

    Well that's my fantasy anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by doc-catfish View Post
    What's with the mutual exclusiveness? How about smart and slutty?
    hhahhaahha i was about to post the same thing... i like engaging in verbal foreplay before a dance. ... or anything else, for that matter.

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    What's wrong with "smart and slutty"? Works for me every time....
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    Quote Originally Posted by yoda57us View Post
    What's wrong with "smart and slutty"? Works for me every time....
    Works for me too, $$-wise.

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    I keep it polite and smart, but upbeat and sweet at first, as I quickly "get to know" the guy, all the while slowly flirting, touching their arm more and more, getting closer and closer, more sexual, etc, and then I finally pop the question like "I'd love to dance for you... you look like you could use a good time; let's get out of here! "

    Many of my customers find my lack of bullshit fake over the top sexuality refreshing. I play the "real person who looks like a 9+ who is actually meeting you in a more realistic way but still liking you" angle and I'm about 85% honest with how smart I am.

    DO NOT GRIND ON A CUSTOMER while talking to them!! It makes you look cheap, and when you STILL don't sell that dance it makes you look drunk or pathetic, though I think you've already decided that.

    IMO just don't be a know-it-all, and don't be afraid to crack sex jokes.

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    Honestly I'm just myself. I don't try to play dumb but I doubt I come off as a Yale student either. I'm just average. The guys who have shown interest either way always wanted me smarter though. So I just pretend to know what they're talking about by basically rewording their question and identifying their bias side.

    Really I just let them talk. Doesn't that satisfy both the types of guys?

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    Quote Originally Posted by yoda57us View Post
    What's wrong with "smart and slutty"? Works for me every time....
    Works for me, too.

    It's not necessary to do a big dumb-girl act, IMO. If I'm upbeat, sexy, and having a great time, guys don't usually stop to think about what my I.Q. might be before they get a dance.

    Sadly, when guys tell you you're "too smart" it's usually code for "you don't seem very fun." It can mean you come off as being too analytical, trying to hard, acting reserved, or any combination of the above. Guys don't come to the club for deep conversations, most of the time. Not saying they won't talk to a girl who is conversible, and sometimes being able to make conversation will get you more money from the guys who do want that. But it's not the primary thing they're looking for.

    As for "proper" -- well, guys who want a prim and proper dancer will always be in the minority. Most want a girl who can be sensual and sexual. But sexuality and smarts are hardly mutually exclusive, and if you can be a combination of the two, you will bank with the classier type of customer.

    Rubbing on customers like a drunken whore has never gotten me anywhere, though I have tried it from time to time just to see how it works. The same ammount of customers say no to me, though they might act more regretful when they say it. Overt sluttiness doesn't seem to sell dances unless you are genuinely willing to promise dirty extras. I'm not, so this type of sell is a false front for me. I also find it really exhausting. All in all, not worth the effort.

    Finally, I don't think the "too smart" comment literally means your IQ and GPA are too high to be a dancer. You just need to relax more and let your naughty side show.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yoda57us View Post
    What's wrong with "smart and slutty"? Works for me every time....
    ^ The right combo...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Symmy View Post
    Well I've been dancing for a while(long while) and I've noticed the stupid and slutty less chatty thing works best on most custys.But are you willing to dumb yourself down for the money?I personally can't.And it seems that the type of custy that you get with this behavior isn't a very classy gentleman type (Ha!Lol).I'd rather make less money and be me and not pretend to be a dumb putz.
    I can totally dumb myself down for money, but I figure the same as you, the type of guy into this is probably not classy and probably doesnt have much money. I want to be able to get guys who can afford VIP and Champagne room, not a couple of cheap 20 dollar lap dances hoping to cum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xoxoGracexoxo View Post
    Works for me, too.

    It's not necessary to do a big dumb-girl act, IMO. If I'm upbeat, sexy, and having a great time, guys don't usually stop to think about what my I.Q. might be before they get a dance.

    Sadly, when guys tell you you're "too smart" it's usually code for "you don't seem very fun." It can mean you come off as being too analytical, trying to hard, acting reserved, or any combination of the above. Guys don't come to the club for deep conversations, most of the time. Not saying they won't talk to a girl who is conversible, and sometimes being able to make conversation will get you more money from the guys who do want that. But it's not the primary thing they're looking for.

    As for "proper" -- well, guys who want a prim and proper dancer will always be in the minority. Most want a girl who can be sensual and sexual. But sexuality and smarts are hardly mutually exclusive, and if you can be a combination of the two, you will bank with the classier type of customer.

    Rubbing on customers like a drunken whore has never gotten me anywhere, though I have tried it from time to time just to see how it works. The same ammount of customers say no to me, though they might act more regretful when they say it. Overt sluttiness doesn't seem to sell dances unless you are genuinely willing to promise dirty extras. I'm not, so this type of sell is a false front for me. I also find it really exhausting. All in all, not worth the effort.

    Finally, I don't think the "too smart" comment literally means your IQ and GPA are too high to be a dancer. You just need to relax more and let your naughty side show.
    by proper i mean "doesnt act like a drunken dumb slut who grinds against the guy for free and kisses him out in the open" I dont mean a prim and proper lap dance lol. I would think that the ultimate fantasy would be a smart good girl who acts naughty in private. Perhaps I need more hints that I can also be "fun"? Maybe put my finger on my lips or adjust my lingerie and stuff? I dont have a naughty side, thats the problem. I'm a prude with no sex drive lol. This helps me when giving lap dances though because I go through all the actions and dont feel turned on at all.

    I can never get myself to say something like "omg im so horny" or "god you turn me on, lets have some fun." That is just too classless (and untrue) for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msonyxorb View Post
    I can never get myself to say something like "omg im so horny" or "god you turn me on, lets have some fun." That is just too classless (and untrue) for me.
    Instead of "I'm so horny" try something simple like "do you want to take to the PD area?" Drop the "you turn me on" part and just go with "let's have some fun!". It's all about selling it to the guy even if you don't believe it yourself.

    Most of my favs fit squarely into the "Naughty but Nice" mold and they all bank...
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    Here's another vote for "smart and slutty".. Dumb puts me right off immediately, I don't care how gorgeous she is. Intelligence is very hot.. probably why I go for those girls wearing the schoolmarm glasses. Watch my money sprout wings and fly away..
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    so we all agree guys like slutty girls? or just inside the strip club?

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    I like Smart and Sensual. Not really into slutty...at least not overtly slutty...

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    ^ hey, we're already getting naked and shaking our ass for money, being dumb is just part of the stripper persona, and i'll be what you want me to be if its making me more money.with some guys i can afford to be my smartypants self, but the other 80% i just giggle and twirl my hair. you're there to make money, not have philosophical discussions, and most men are there to escape from smart women into a fantasy of dumb slutty hotties
    There are things I just wont compromise for money. They already get to see me naked, Im not going to pretend to be stupid or a slut too. I do very well so it's obvious that not all men (and from this thread) like that approach.
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    I can't deal with the really dumb ones, they make me feel awkward. I don't know what to do. Do I agree with the silly thing just said and be reassuring? I don't want to correct someone I've just met. Awkward, I don't like it.

    There are certain people (my theory is that they're the B+ students with something to prove) that love to prove anyone wrong, about anything. Sometimes "smart" to me means those people. The people that use their intelligence not to be witty or interesting, but hurtful.

    So I like...average? I guess? I so rarely have conversations at my club that I don't often have any clue what her level of intelligence is.

    I've gotten enough bad dances (at $50/3 minutes) that yes, it's a concern. It has happened enough now that new dancers get one dance at first. I've learned to crawl out of my own head and be a bit more observant. Is she friendly, close, and interacting with the other customers? I'm not looking for slutty, just looking to avoid the "sit-grind-stare into space" dance. My current ATF is very "proper" and graceful. She has a feminine elegance that is so appealing to me. She doesn't sit four feet away from me though. She's sexual and sensual without being slutty.

    I think there are happy mediums to both of these concerns.
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    I don't like slutty.

    I like Sweet and smart or sweet and stupid. Sweet is the key for me.

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