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    Default Quick hustle tip- Be the same!

    As I'm writing my paper for my Persuasion class, I came across this little gem.

    "People are more readily persuaded by [strippers] that are similar to themselves in some way." The item in [] is my words, not theirs, of course!


    I immediately realized that I do this all night.
    You've got a limited time to convince them that you share some interest, quality, or fact.

    Find something, anything, to show the customer that y'all are the same.
    The one I usually use is 'we both like cars!' because I love cars, and most guys love cars too.
    It doesn't have to be something truthful, if you're good.
    It can be their choice of beverage:
    "Is that a vodka tonic? That's my favorite drink! Last week my girlfriends and I got soo drunk off of those... What about you? Where do you think has the best vodka tonic?"

    It can be their hometown, whether it's where you are or not.
    "You live in Austin too? Don't you love it? I've been here for X years, what about you?"Oh you're from California? That's FAR away *giggle* I love it there. I remember when I was on vacation there once and..."

    It can even be something really simple, like:
    "You look like you're having a really good time! Are you? Yes? Me too! You're cute, I'm cute, let's go!"

    You could use anything, really. Clothing items, haircolor, tattoos, something they did that day or any time, school they went to, things they like...

    All of these little convos should last <1 song. I never sit for free for more than 1 song. Don't be afraid to come across as rude- end the talk right at the end of a song and say something to the effect of "ready for our dances?"

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    oh good call Natalie!

    This reminds me or mirroring, yanno, like taking a drink when they do, crossing your legs when they do (well, 3 seconds after so it's not obvious, cuz my first mirrored guy so called me out on that "hey, stop copying me!" lol) but the shit works!

    good post!

    Love it!

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    A tip I learned that goes with that is that every city has a Main St.

    So if a guy says he's from Pittsburgh, Pa, you can say, oh no shit! My sister lives there! on Main st! yeah I go to visit there once a year, it's such a nice city, isn't it? I love that little italian restaurant...what's it called again?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrissy68 View Post
    oh good call Natalie!

    This reminds me or mirroring, yanno, like taking a drink when they do, crossing your legs when they do (well, 3 seconds after so it's not obvious, cuz my first mirrored guy so called me out on that "hey, stop copying me!" lol) but the shit works!

    good post!
    I'm glad I earned your seal of approval Chrissy!

    This persuasion class has been sooooo beneficial for me. I'm always in lecture smirking to myself, thinking of ways to apply in the SC, while all the lameasses next to me doze off and bitch about "how is this relevant?"

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    Great reminder.

    I sold 4 dances to a guy the other day because I said I had the same birthday as him...
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    Great tip, Natalie! Yeah, finding something in common is usually pretty simple if you're looking for it. You like sunshine and puppydogs and sno cones? OMG, me too!

    It's especially easy with the whole "where ya from" thing, which is why people always ask this. I can always find a way to relate, even if it's over the fact that they've never been there and would never go. ("Yeah, I know! It's so much awesomer here/wherever you're from! That's why I left home right after high school!")

    Another (subtler but maybe more effective?) way to appear similar is to have similar values, find the same things important, etc. Granted this applies more to have longer-term conversations with higher-paying customers as opposed to a quick Hi-I-like-your-shirt thing.

    You can also alter your voice and way of speaking to match a customers, and this might actually be the number one thing I do to get dances besides smiling and making eye contact. If someone speaks slowly, with lots of pauses, they're going to find someone who talks quickly too aggressive or agitated. A fast talker will think a slow talker is boring or doesn't really like them. Also notice the pitch and rhythm of the voice and match it. Doing this gets me on the same page with the customer more quickly than anything I could actually say.

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    At my first club I told a guy I'm Scandinavian (I'm Finnish, he's Norwegian) and ever since I'm the only girl he ever tips on stage or gets drinks for. LOL he's this old guy that normally doesn't do anything but sit at the bar for an hour or two drinking coffee almost every day and all the girls can't stand him

    I often start up something about pets. Most people, at least around here, have a dog or something they like to talk about and they seem to find it interesting that I show dogs and horses and have a ferret.
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    For me, it's being the same race as them that helps. I've banked off Asian guys because some of them are so fascinated with an Asian girl that strips. A few months ago, this one Azn dude gave me four benjis for a 3 minute lapdance. I was like, damn.

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    What books were assigned for this class? I might need to hit up Amazon.
    "Don't piss off a motivated stripper."


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    Influence: Science and Practice



    GREAT book. I'd recommend it to any stripper.

    The other books were Thank You For Smoking and the one I got this tip out of.

    The book I garnered this info from is technically about using technology for persuasion, but I extrapolated the relevant content to face to face interaction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iambonbon05 View Post
    At my first club I told a guy I'm Scandinavian (I'm Finnish, he's Norwegian) and ever since I'm the only girl he ever tips on stage or gets drinks for. LOL he's this old guy that normally doesn't do anything but sit at the bar for an hour or two drinking coffee almost every day and all the girls can't stand him
    Brilliant. I make the best $$$ connections ever from the "where are you from?" topic.

    Especially when I get bored at work and start talking in my Irish accent. If I had to pick just one of my most effective hustle tips, this is it. It gets at least a third of the custies I talk to eating out of my hand. Either their eyes light up and they say something like "I'm Irish too; my grandfather was from Galway!"...or they assume I'm going to be a really good time b/c they associate all things Irish with uninhibited drinking and wild partying and fun (and who can't identify with that? )

    And I've met a lot of older (50+) men around here who are huge russophiles, and once I speak Russian with them, I've got them eating out of my hand too.

    As for Latinos, I tell them in giggly broken Spanish how much I looove sexy Spanish men.

    Another way of relating that works really well for me is when the guy's a drink snob. A lot of older guys will ask the bartender for something really rare or uber-top-shelf that hardly any clubs have...and when he does that, I do the same--pick another "snob" wine or liquor or an obscure beer and order that. Then when we're told they don't have either of those things, we both chuckle and lament: "ah, I can't believe they don't have ___!" "oh I know, It's so hard to get really good wine around here..." Connection made.

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    I sell to a lot of Mexican dudes when I start talking to them in Spanish about my short stay in Rosarito. I bust out a silly Cantonese phrase or two with Cant. custies, and I bust out the only Viet sentence I know with the Viet custies, and I go on talking about Indian culture/regional differences etc with indian dudes.

    I use culture, language, music, and cars (and sometimes nerdy stuff) to relate myself to the custy. It works!

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    ^When I do stuff like that it has the opposite effect lol!

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    Really??! That sucks. How so?


    btw I only do it AFTER they specifically tell me they're from a certain country, because I don't want them to think I'm presumptuous. Like:

    Me: "Where you from?"
    Custy: "I moved here from Hong Kong about 4 years ago."
    Me: "That's exciting! It's good to be worldly. So you know Cantonese?"
    Custy: "Yes, I do"
    Me: "Oh well I know a few phrases but my accent is terrible...!"

    etc

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    Me too! But, I don't know. It's like once they think they genuinely like me or 'respect' me they feel awkward about spending money on me and treating me like the stripper that I am. Sometimes it works out, but it's from them just handing me money for being 'me' never from them buying dances afterwards.

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    And we look the same so I know it's not about looks...

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    Hehe, I have a regular who brought me in historical fiction novel then on his most recent visit a folk CD because he's so wrapped up in my nerdy college girl, "eww, how could they play Snoop Dogg here? there's no value to these lyrics!" act. Then later that night I'll be in back with someone trading party stories and agreeing that drugs should be decriminalized and no, his buddy should not go to jail for driving through that shop front drunk last month.

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    Pic I'm jealous that you have an accent! I knew a polish girl and guys were fascinated with her. I'd kill to have an accent. Maybe I should move to another area or something haha.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zinaida View Post
    ^When I do stuff like that it has the opposite effect lol!
    The trick is not to do it too much. Just toss them a little bone of connection to hook them. If you keep going, then they start seeing you as TOO relate-able, and you can become the dreaded "friend" instead of the "uber-hot sexy fantasy girl who's even cooler than I thought because--omg!-- she's a Tolkein fan just like me!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by orchidflower View Post
    Hehe, I have a regular who brought me in historical fiction novel then on his most recent visit a folk CD because he's so wrapped up in my nerdy college girl, "eww, how could they play Snoop Dogg here? there's no value to these lyrics!" act. Then later that night I'll be in back with someone trading party stories and agreeing that drugs should be decriminalized and no, his buddy should not go to jail for driving through that shop front drunk last month.
    hehe, like a chameleon. Or a ninja. Brilliant!

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    I'm subscribed to the magazine "Portfolio",[Business publication from Condé Nast, with news, opinion, blogs, market updates, career resources, and lifestyle features.] I read it cover to cover, (usually during a flight) it's pretty interesting, as it has all sorts of little tidbits on all sorts of stuff, that I find impress business type custys. Anyone else read this mag?
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    Quote Originally Posted by iambonbon05 View Post
    Pic I'm jealous that you have an accent! I knew a polish girl and guys were fascinated with her. I'd kill to have an accent. Maybe I should move to another area or something haha.
    hehe, picking up accents is my hidden talent. I can do Irish, Swedish and Russian dialects so well that even people from those countries have bought it! All I have to do is listen to other people speaking, and I just naturally pick it up after a little while. Swedish is my favorite, b/c there are already too many Russian girls in my clubs, custies think it's exotic, and I can pretend not to understand guys when they ask for extras or go off in similar directions that I don't want to go in.

    But if you do this, you have to pick an accent that goes with a language that you understand at least conversationally...what if a customer comes in and he speaks "your" language? Don't get caught with your pants down!

    (oops...did I veer too far off-topic? Sorry.)
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    I understand the whole relateable thing,my club is near an airport so we constantly have guys from all over.Whoever i speak to i always ask where they're from and gush about how ive been there,love it,or have lived there.Im originally from texas and although i think my accent is gone,alot of people ask where im from because of it and they think its cute especially if their from the south too.A few regs call me Texas,but i swear i dont hear it!

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    Totally true. Last night I approached a guy for dances, he said no thanks, and I caught an accent so I asked where he was from. He turned out to be from Edinburgh, Scotland. My mother's family is of very distant Scottish descent and I have the hair and complexion, so he believed me when I excitedly said my parents were from Edinburgh too. We shared some Scottish jokes and compared last names (I gave a fake one starting with Mac) and he wound up getting three dances.

    People can bond over the silliest things, but bonding makes great sales.

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