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    Graphic Stuff: Fair Warning**************

    While we're talking about creepy "art" I wanted to let you know about this douchebag, Guillermo Varags, who starved a dog to death as an art project.

    Here is a write up. http://www.pluginamp.com/network/node/3575

    There are links ^^^ to petitions barring this piece from the Honduran Biennial.

    To see photos (warning: very sad): http://elperritovive.blogspot.com/



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    Sad video about the piece I found on youtube

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzFBD...eature=related
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    I'm scared to watch. I could watch a human starve to death but when it comes to animals, I can't bear it.

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    huh, someone already started a thread about it. go figure.

    it= the lady inducing abortions for an art project, not the dog thing.

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    Okay. Looking at those pictures made me start crying hysterically. That's one of the most despicable things I've ever seen.

    Jesus Christ. What is WRONG with people?

    Fuck the art argument. Can someone please explain to me what could possibly make these art projects morally acceptable?

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    The worst part is, this "artist" wants to REPEAT the piece for the biennial. Another poor dog...

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    Okay. Looking at those pictures made me start crying hysterically. That's one of the most despicable things I've ever seen.

    Jesus Christ. What is WRONG with people?

    Fuck the art argument. Can someone please explain to me what could possibly make these art projects morally acceptable?
    It isn't that art justifies anything as moral, or even lawful.

    Personally, I know I can't watch that video. Though my heart is cold and dead to everything else, I have a soft and sensitive spot for animals.



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    This actually makes me feel physically ill.

    Someone should starve HIM as an art project.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hardkandee View Post
    It isn't that art justifies anything as moral, or even lawful.

    Personally, I know I can't watch that video. Though my heart is cold and dead to everything else, I have a soft and sensitive spot for animals.
    When I said "fuck the art argument," I didn't mean it wasn't art. I meant, who fucking cares whether its art or not? It's still fucking repulsive.

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    It's not art..... it's cruelty. There is no way I can think of an excuse to justify it.

    The reason I posted this in the forum is to hopefully inspire some people to sign the petition against this guy killing another dog at a future art event.

    http://www.petitiononline.com/13031953/petition.html
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    Yeah cos it takes a whole load of fucking talent to starve a dog to death.
    I'm really sickened tonight, both by this and the other "art" thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lonelily View Post
    When I said "fuck the art argument," I didn't mean it wasn't art. I meant, who fucking cares whether its art or not? It's still fucking repulsive.

    Ah, ok.



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    Oops. Did that sound like I was attacking you? I hope not. I certainly didn't mean it that way.

    The only person I wanna attack is the artist!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lonelily View Post
    Oops. Did that sound like I was attacking you? I hope not. I certainly didn't mean it that way.

    The only person I wanna attack is the artist!
    Oh goodness no! I just wrote that because I didn't want you to think I was getting uppity with you!! lol



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    I think this shows that we require a reform of animal cruelty laws.

    Where did he get this dog?
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    This has been going around message boards, MySpace and other sites lately. Even Rikki Rockett (Poison) sent a bulletin about it (He's a major animal-rights supporter). I read the story once, and watched the youtube video once. I can't stomach reading or watching again.

    The thing that disturbed me most was that the words that he displayed on the walls in the same area of the starving, dying dog--were made up entirely of dog food. It's revolting.

    Jenny--From stories I read, he paid a couple of kids to bring the dog off the streets and to him. Not sure if that's entirely true, but it seems to be the most popular story about it.

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    Well, technically that dog belongs to someone else. That could be a mischief charge.

    We had a case up here with a cat. Except it wasn't starved to death.
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    Hm. One could sure draw up an interesting essay, between the two "Not Art" threads, about the variances of perspectives that present society has on the creation, perpetuation, termination, and respect for life.

    Having saved and raised a starving dog, having seen dying animals and humans, having helped with human and animal births, I'm not terribly impressed by any of this stuff. And so I don't click on the links, either. Nor do I want to write an essay. I'm just saying that one could do an interesting essay.

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    Oh my fucking God...

    I was just eating, and now I want to retch it all up.
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    Can't look.

    I can't see how anyone could support this. Then again I don't think a petition would do much either
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    In the UK the artist would have probbably have been charged with neglect,banned from ever owning another animal and perhaps even jailed.
    I can't find much about Costa Ricas's animal welfare laws (in fact most of the info i found was about this case!) but it's an issue that has been receiving press recently
    http://www.wspa.org.uk/latestnews/2008/UDAWevent.aspx
    Maybe this case will spur action.

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    It's a hoax.

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    oh god. I am speechless. Ionly looked through half the pics before I tarted to cry and shut te window. That is..omg. That man should be strung up by his toenails and starved to death...with a nice juicy steak hanging right next to him but out of reach. so close he can smell it.

    that is not art. not even close. that was just pics of a dying animal. poor thing. poor baby. what did that dog do to deserve such a cruel end to his life?

    im so sad.

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    I checked when I got the first MySpace bulletin about it a couple weeks back.

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