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    Bear with me for a moment... This is kind of an odd thing I've been tossing around.

    Now I don't do hardcore "extras" simply because I don't feel comfortable with it, but this is something I've been thinking about lately.

    A prostitute--as long as she's not a street-walker--is less likely to be arrested for prostitution than a clean stripper. The simple reason is exposure. Most experienced prostitutes (again, NOT the street-walkers) tend to be more selective of their clients. They get clients as referrals and not just off the street. They tend to screen their clients to make sure that they AREN'T cops. Now this doesn't work all the time, of course, but it seems to me that I'd be less likely to be arrested as an independent prostitute than as a stripper.

    And that irks me to no end. Why the fuck should I be risking arrest just by going in to work and giving a lapdance? I've never been caught in a raid (knock on wood), but I think this is just ridiculous. I think that the more restrictive a state's laws, the greater the chance that everyone will just ignore it. I mean, if you're going to be a "prostitute" for getting within 6 feet of the customer, what difference does it make if you're grinding on his lap? If you'd be arrested for grinding (but every other girl in your club is grinding), then what difference does it make if you give him a hj through his pants?

    I know it makes a difference to us PERSONALLY, but from a legal standpoint there's no real difference. And that irritates the heck out of me. Lawmakers try to make it illegal to give a lapdance, and then they wonder why the strippers went from giving clean lapdances to sucking cock in VIP--DUH! Because there's no LEGAL difference between the two!

    Am I making any sense or just rambling?

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    No, you make perfect sense. I've seen the same reasoning referenced about Houston in particular in other threads around here, too.

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    YUP! Just one of many reasons I try to be super selective about the town and even the state I work in. Who needs that hassle?
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    I *think* the bail for 3-foot violation is more than that of prostitution (in Houston)

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    Morgan, has your club been raided before?
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    ^^^Nope (knock on wood). But truthfully, I'm getting more and more nervous about it. What used to be two cops coming in twice a month to look around has turned into three male and one female cop coming in twice a WEEK to look around. Just making me a bit antsy is all... I doubt it will come to anything. There's only one club in town that gets raided regularly, and the rest haven't been raided in years. But I guess I've just been thinking a lot lately about the WHY's of these things.

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    to make matters even worse, odds are that a girl busted for prostitution will be found innocent more often than a 'stripper' busted for dancing too close. The reason is that the money being earned by giving HJ's BJ's and FS can buy a top notch attorney and finance an appeal, whereas the 'stripper' will probably be stuck being represented by the club's attorney or a public defender since her earnings level isn't conducive to paying $5000 legal fees !

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    This just amuses me to no end! The worst thing to happen to us here in Australia is "Liquor Licensing" coming in .... and even then it is a Govt Department not the police itself.

    Whenever the police come into the club (when I was working last in Surfers) it was for a perve not for a raid... and they were in uniform so they weren't "undercover".

    Then there is the fact that prostitution is legal here (to a certain extent)...


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    Uhm girls can be charged under the Liquor Licensing act. In 2002 they went nuts on the clubs in Brisbane dropping all but two back to a lingerie license from an adult entertainment. Girls got ticketed then.

    Minx lost its license in 2006.. that's why it had to be sold to someone with an existing adult entertianment license. Dunno if anyone got ticketed.
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    If I were you, I wouldn't chance it!

    There are so many reasons not too. None of the clubs I've worked at have ever been raided, and I have given dances to cops.

    I know from acquaintances that prostitutes aren't as picky when the economy is bad. One girl I know of has been busted many times. She's lost both of her children, and isn't even allowed to see her son. Plus because she has prostitution on her record no employers want to hire her.

    Dancing may not be what many people consider clean or ethical, but at least it's legal. Just play it extra safe and you will be fine. Clubs sometimes don't tell you exactly what the state laws are, so if you don't know them do some research or contact a lawyer to have them explained to you.
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    ^^^This is the problem... Number one: Put a cop and a stripper before a jury. Have the cop swear that the stripper was committing prostitution. Have the stripper swear that she did no. Who will the jury believe? Number two: It's not just prostitution. Dancing can also earn you an obscenity charge, just because your T-back shifts a quarter-inch while you dance. Number three: Just about ANYTHING conforms (or can conform) to the definition of prostitution. Have you ever playfully smacked a fellow dancer on the butt? That could be made to fit the definition of prostitution. In some jurisdictions, giving a customer a hug could be defined as prostitution.

    The point being that I think I'd stand a better chance of staying out of legal trouble by becoming an ACTUAL prostitute, as opposed to just dancing in the clubs.

    DISCLAIMER: I won't become a prostitute for a variety of reasons, and I don't do hardcore "extras" in the club.

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    There is so much truth in this thread. effing laws can be such a pain!




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    Quote Originally Posted by ellebelle View Post
    Uhm girls can be charged under the Liquor Licensing act. In 2002 they went nuts on the clubs in Brisbane dropping all but two back to a lingerie license from an adult entertainment. Girls got ticketed then.

    Minx lost its license in 2006.. that's why it had to be sold to someone with an existing adult entertianment license. Dunno if anyone got ticketed.
    Yet I still feel we don't have it no where NEAR as bad as it seems to be in the US.


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    You keep saying you don't do "hardcore" extras in the club. What exactly do you mean? I'm not trying to start anything, it just stuck out to me.

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    I clicked this thread expecting it to be about a charity softball game or something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zxcire View Post
    You keep saying you don't do "hardcore" extras in the club. What exactly do you mean? I'm not trying to start anything, it just stuck out to me.
    I think she has said before that clubs in her area are pretty high mileage. I think that over there grinding and boobie touching are expected while here it would be considered extras.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iambonbon05 View Post
    I think she has said before that clubs in her area are pretty high mileage. I think that over there grinding and boobie touching are expected while here it would be considered extras.
    Exactly. Grinding is technically illegal here, but it's also expected. I can be grinding on a guy in VIP when the manager walks back into the room and he doesn't even bat an eyelash. Touching is permitted anywhere except the kitty and boobies (not legally, but as a matter of club practice and rules). Boobies in the face, etc. Many girls here on SW would consider all of that to be "extras", but it's not extras in my club.

    What I absolutely do NOT do:
    *The obvious: HJ, BJ, FS, etc.
    *Kissing or licking
    *Touching the genitals with my hand, even through clothing
    *Show my pussy (it's a topless club, but that happens)

    What I absolutely NEVER allow:
    *Boobie touching (most girls allow this; some even allow sucking on nipples, but I won't)
    *Biting, licking, or kissing
    *Exposure (there's one girl who will lift a guy's shirt and play with his nipples, but I never allow that)
    *Kitty touching--even through the T-back
    *Touching or messing with my asshole--even through the T-back

    There's some other stuff, but this is the stuff I get asked to do most often.

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    Thanks for answering. That is pretty much what I thought you were getting at, but I wasn't sure, and it definitely piqued my interest. And I think you have valid points as well. A lot of time, if dancers followed the letter of the law, they would have a hell of a time making any money at all. And I mean exactly what you're talking about...it's a hard sell=airdance for $20...most places, it's not gonna happen (much)!

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    Yet I still feel we don't have it no where NEAR as bad as it seems to be in the US.
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