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    okay, so when it comes to getting tipped on stage i actually make more money than i do with dances. however, when it comes to getting dances i suck!!! after being on stage or even between sets i'll go up to customers and talk to them for a bit and then ask them if they would like a dance and i constantly get told "you were great up there" or "you're so beautiful/sexy", but then when i ask them for a dance i get told no/maybe later, which turns out to be no in the end.

    the club that i work at isn't a "wanna dance" type of club. you usually have to talk to them for at least ten minutes. i've read hustle hut and i've tried touching their arm when i ask them for a dance or telling them "i can give you an even better show in the back", but no such luck. after being there for eight hours last night i only got one dance and the night before i only got two. i don't think i've ever sold more than four dances during a shift. and i don't even over charge the guys. the majority of the girls that i've talked to add an additional $20-$40 per dance. whenever i ask a guy for a dance (and i don't over charge), i'm told "they're too expensive".

    i'm at a loss as to what to do!!! any advice would be greatly appreciated.
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    however, when it comes to getting dances i suck!!!
    Do you have customers? Are the other dancers getting money? You need to stop telling yourself you suck. If you have a negative attitude that will shine through. I feel really fucked up saying that but I believe in myself and that shows. It sounds like you need to work on your game. Do you watch the dancers who get a lot of lap dances? What is their approach?

    but then when i ask them for a dance i get told no/maybe later, which turns out to be no in the end.
    How many times do you come back? When a customer tells me "Maybe later" I come back in about 15-20 mins. I ask if he's ready for me and then word it "Are you ready or are you good for tonight?" Close the sale either way so you can move on. I will come back to you ALL NIGHT until I get the final NO. Do not let "Maybe later" discourage you...

    the club that i work at isn't a "wanna dance" type of club.
    I believe every club has the potential for the "wanna dance." It's not about the club it's about the guys. No matter where you go North South East or West guys are all the same. Maybe you just need to switch up how you ask. You need to tell which guys you should have one liners for and which guys are worth sitting down with. I recondmend going to the bookstore and reading up on some books about body language!

    What do you think makes you special? Are you funny? Smart? Clever? I really believe in playing up your gifts when you sell a dance. I can't tell you how many dances I've sold by walking up to a guy when he gets his beer from the bar and smiling and saying "I've been waiting for you all my life!" Silly sells. I know it's hard when you aren't making the money you want but it's there you just need to tweek!

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    Quote Originally Posted by la429 View Post

    I believe every club has the potential for the "wanna dance." It's not about the club it's about the guys. No matter where you go North South East or West guys are all the same. Maybe you just need to switch up how you ask.
    Definitely. I've found sometimes it's even easier to be a "wannadance" girl in a club that's really heavy on sit-down hustles and VIP sales. Because not all guys are down with spending hundreds on rooms and bottles. So while most of the other girls were going for rooms, I was sweeping up $20's from every custy that was being overlooked because he only wanted a few dances. And those dances add up!

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    How are other girls doing? Sometimes reading posts here I get the impression that guys come into clubs in other areas with the intention of getting dances. Here, and surely other places, guys seem to mostly want to relax and watch stage and MAYBE get a dance if they're really impressed with you (not necessarily your stage show but you know what I mean).

    Club culture has a lot to do with it I think.

    Have you tried hustling directly on stage? As you take your tips and give them a little personal attention, whisper things like "let's go to VIP after this" "I'd love to dance for you" etc. Closest thing to a wanna dance hustle I've found in these kinds of clubs.
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    hey, don't feel bad....i'm still not a good hustler yet. but that's because my first club was stage only, so we didn't have to hustle for dances. in a way i became spoiled and TOO used to that environment. and since im alternating my old club and my new club every week, it's hard for me to get in "HUSTLE mode" when two nights before i didn't have to do it. but everything will get better with time. ALSO...taxes were just done a couple days ago, so guys aren't spending as much this week. and WHERE ARE YOU WORKING??? i haven't talked to you in so long. i have to come watch you dance now....since you came to see me!!! PM me, miss lady

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    it has been pretty dead lately, but the other girls all seem to be getting more dances than i do and they get them at higher prices--they over charge, i don't. i do hustle on stage, but that's usually met with a "no, i just want to watch the show".

    i have been watching the other girls. some girls just go up to the guy and just seem to get a dance easily--i wish i knew what they said. some of them are pretty aggressive, which is completely opposite of my personality. the people that i usually give dances to are from customers that i talked to earlier in the night, who liked the fact that i wasn't pushy.

    when i get a "maybe later", i usually go back in 30-40 minutes. however, during that same time period, that guy might get a dance from another girl, so i don't know, maybe i'm just not his type???

    la429, when you use the line "Are you ready or are you good for tonight?" do you keep going up to him if he keeps saying "maybe later", but then you notice him getting dances from other girls? if i approach a guy three times and i'm still getting the "maybe later", i figure i'm just not his type, especially if he's getting dances from other girls in the mean time.
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    see how other girls do it and compare it with the way you are approaching customers to improve your game. sometimes the custies that tip stage only intend to do just that because maybe they don't want to spend money buying a lap dance. don't skip asking guys that didn't tip you, some of these guys actually buy dances.

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    I'm in the same boat hun. I'm working on it starting tonight. My club, I average 2 dances per night. But I see girls that average 24 dances per night. I sit there and dollar dance, have great convo etc. and don't get a dance, but I see these girls sit on the guys lap, whisper in his ear and he's up. It will come, I'll get it one day.
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