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    Now I know that not everyone does stages. If you can get out of stages (meaning, if your club will let you out and you have a VIP to do anyways), then do it. But if not, I want to share some tips to help you do better on stage.

    1: Think of the stage as a selling tool.
    So many of us just despise going on stage, and for good reason. Tips are usually crap on-stage, it takes us away from our time hustling the floor, and it's (for me at least) the most strenuous part of my night. But we have to have a positive attitude about going on-stage. Most customers DO like to watch the stage a bit before doing VIP, and they'll watch your stage show to see whether they like you. Think of it as a free preview. You may not make much money off of it, but it's advertising; standing in front of the whole club and showing off. "If you think this is good, we need to go to VIP together so I can show you the REALLY good stuff!"

    2: Make eye contact.
    Customers are CONSTANTLY complaining about this! "That dancer's a stuck-up bitch. She doesn't even pay attention to the customers!" or "That dancer looks stoned out of her gourd. She looks like she's bored to tears." or "That dancer's full of herself. She looks more at the mirror than the customers." Look at your customers. Make eye contact, give a seductive little grin, and then move on. Even if there's only three people in your entire club, do NOT look bored or watch yourself in the mirror. Pay attention to your audience.

    3: Actually DANCE!
    You don't have to be an expert dancer, nor do you have to be the pole queen, but you should actually MOVE. I see a lot of dancers just idly walk around the pole, then go to the other pole and walk around it, then go to the mirror and do an "up against the wall and spread 'em" move, then go back to the first pole and repeat. Remember that this is a PERFORMANCE!

    4: Accentuate your best features.
    What are your best physical features? What features would you like to minimize? For me, my best physical features are my legs. My worst is my little belly. So I do a lot of moves with the slow, sensual kicks and a lot of pointy-toed leg movement, and I let my arms "flow" as I spin and turn in a way that they kind of cover my belly. If your boobs are your best feature, find ways to dance that accent your breasts. If your ass is your best feature, dance in ways that make it look best.

    5: What to do if you've got 2 songs left before your stage:
    It often happens to me that I know I've got only 2 or 3 songs left before my next stage. Assuming that I don't have to go re-touch makeup or use the bathroom, I'm stuck with this kind of lull in activity. I'll go around to EVERY PERSON in the bar: "Hi! I'm Morgan, and you are?" (REMEMBER THEIR NAME!!!) "I want to chat with you some in a little bit, but I'm on stage in just two more songs. I'm going to go say hi to everyone else before I have to get on stage. I hope you enjoy my stage show. I'll check back with you when I get off stage, okay?" and then move on. Try to make the entire bar. I guarantee you'll increase stage tips if you do this, PLUS you'll get more attention from potential VIP-buyers.

    6: How to handle a "tip dance":
    In my club, when a customer comes to the tiprail, he expects you to give him a little "tip dance". SLOW DOWN! Make eye contact--as in, don't take your eyes off of his. Dance a few seconds, stop dancing, hold out your thong, take money, say "Thank you!", and move along. Soft, sensual, and STILL classy. Remember, it's not just about the customer at the rail, but the customers in the rest of the audience that are watching. They will assume that if you give a good stage dance, you'll give a good VIP. Do NOT be in any way trashy at the tiprail. Do NOT put your pussy in the guy's face, rub your asscrack around his nose, etc. Be sexy and seductive, but ALWAYS a lady.

    7: Tips you once, "Thank you." Tips you twice, sell a dance.
    If he tips you twice on the same set, just say, "I'd LOVE to get you alone!" or something like that. Go ahead and get a VIP dance "booked" for right when you get off stage.

    8: When you're selling multiple dances from stage:
    It's always "first come, first served" for stageside dances. When the one guy comes up to you and asks you for a dance, you agree, "just as soon as I get off stage, okay?" When the second one comes, "I'd love to! I have to go take care of this one other gentleman first, but I'll be with you as soon as I'm finished, okay?"

    9: Lady-like behavior for stages.
    It should go without saying, but... I don't care WHAT kind of crap the DJ plays, do NOT yell at the DJ from the stage. Don't yell at other dancers. Try to handle most customer problems without violence or raised voices. Basically, just remember that you're on display for the WHOLE bar to see.

    10: Accidents happen.
    We all know that sometimes accidents happen. I can't count the number of times I've fallen flat on my ass in the middle of a stage. One time I fell upside down from the top of the pole (and had a mild concussion--that SUCKED!). One time I was dancing and my wig flew off my head. Hey, shit happens. And customers don't seem to mind when you have these little accidents, but they DO watch how you react to them. Get up, dust yourself off, LAUGH, and finish your set. I've had times I was in so much pain I burst into tears as soon as I got back to the dressing room (the concussion story), but I finished my set smiling and laughing, and the customers were none the wiser. They don't always expect a PERFECT performance, but they do expect a cheerful attitude when accidents happen.





    So that's my short list, and now I'm off to put these to work. Please feel free to add any tips (or argue with any of mine).

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    That was great. I especially liked number 5, I'm giving that one a try tomorrow.

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    Default Re: Stage dancing tips...

    One would think that some of these things are pretty obvious, but I see many dancers at my club who have no clue.

    I'm also going to try #5 this coming weekend.

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    5: What to do if you've got 2 songs left before your stage:
    It often happens to me that I know I've got only 2 or 3 songs left before my next stage. Assuming that I don't have to go re-touch makeup or use the bathroom, I'm stuck with this kind of lull in activity. I'll go around to EVERY PERSON in the bar: "Hi! I'm Morgan, and you are?" (REMEMBER THEIR NAME!!!) "I want to chat with you some in a little bit, but I'm on stage in just two more songs. I'm going to go say hi to everyone else before I have to get on stage. I hope you enjoy my stage show. I'll check back with you when I get off stage, okay?" and then move on. Try to make the entire bar. I guarantee you'll increase stage tips if you do this, PLUS you'll get more attention from potential VIP-buyers.
    Yeah I like this one too! I never thought of that before. Nice idea! Will try this week.

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    To add to #5: When they come up to the stage, greet them by name. "Hi, Sam! I'm glad to get to see you!" dancedancedance "Are you enjoying my stage show?" dancedancedance taketip "You should see what I can do up close and personal!" seductive smile "Do you want me to find you when I get off stage so we can go spend some time alone together?"

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    Unfortunately stages mean nothing here - and we have 5 of them. No one goes to the stage - its almost like background to the real hustling going on. I used to love the stage and now I cringe when I hear my name called.

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    yeah, i hear a lot of customers say they like the girls who look like they're having fun up there and the girls that make eye contact.
    but for some reason even though i love being on stage i have a hard time doing the eye contact thing...it makes me nervous to look them in they eyes when i'm on stage unless i am collecting a tip from them, then i'm fine.
    any tips?

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    Quote Originally Posted by betterthaneden View Post
    yeah, i hear a lot of customers say they like the girls who look like they're having fun up there and the girls that make eye contact.
    but for some reason even though i love being on stage i have a hard time doing the eye contact thing...it makes me nervous to look them in they eyes when i'm on stage unless i am collecting a tip from them, then i'm fine.
    any tips?
    What are your thoughts when you're on stage? It doesn't make you nervous to look them in the eyes when you're collecting a tip from them, so I wonder if you feel as though it's an imposition to look them in the eyes while they're just sitting there trying to enjoy their beer? If that's the case, just change your way of thinking. They're in your club because they want to look for a girl to get lapdances from. You're showing them that you're available for those lapdances.

    Most importantly, just fake it til you make it. MAKE yourself make eye contact. You'll get more comfy with it when you get used to it.

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    our stage your lucky to get 10 bucks on stage, even if you do what is described.

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    ^^ Thats GOOD money compared to main here. Main - $5 maybe
    Side stages are easier to get money because we can bring customers onto the stage - like, Ill have a guy turn around (back to me) have him lay down and then lay over him about 1" away or pretend to ride him.. whatever... always constitutes more tips and others coming to your stage.

    But lots of clubs would not allow this so... there ya go... i still despise stage because its 40 minutes all together and I could be on the floor hustling making a hell of a lot more.

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    I agree with both of the above. Stage tips are NEVER going to be worth much. But that's why I said that you have to have the right attitude about stages: that they are a means of advertisement. Ideally, you can have customers asking you for lapdances when they tip you on stage. We ALL know that stage dancing sucks, but since most of us have no choice but to get on stage from time to time, it helps to do it WELL, because it is the only advertisement that most customers will ever see for us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morgan_TX View Post

    1: Think of the stage as a selling tool.
    So many of us just despise going on stage, and for good reason. Tips are usually crap on-stage, it takes us away from our time hustling the floor, and it's (for me at least) the most strenuous part of my night. But we have to have a positive attitude about going on-stage....
    another way to keep a positive attitude about going up on stage, is think of it like this: "Every set I do on stage I'm burning calories and toning up my body, and the hotter my body is, the more money I'll make!"
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    ^^^I do that. In fact, I use it a LOT as a workout tool. When I first started dancing, I couldn't even make it all the way up the pole (we have about a 18-foot pole). Then I got to where I could get up there with great difficulty just to slide back down. Then I learned to shimmy up the pole quickly and slide down. Then I finally figured out how to go all the way to the top and slide down in an inverted crucifix and do handstand tricks at the base of the pole. Now I set it as a GOAL to go to the top of the stage at least 3 times a night.

    It is a great workout! Look at it this way: Some people actually PAY to be allowed to practice pole tricks!

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    I like stage because I absolutely hate approaching customers. When I go on stage *which is A LOT at the club I work in* they come to me. It's easier for me to hustle someone who's already shown interest in me.

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    I'm wierd...I actually adore being on stage! It gives me a change to do what I love more than life itself...DANCE. While I'm guilty of getting lazy now and again and just rolling around on the floor, I like to spend some time upright doing real life dance stuff. If only I could do ballet leaps and such in my evil shoes.

    I've found that being a good dancer can actually be a lovely selling point. It somehow attracts the intellectual guys, who are definitely my preferred custies (with the exception of the dousche on sunday who was a minor leag idiot Allen Ginsberg.) to deal with.

    The extra benefit to my dance training is the fact that it means my legs and ass are the best chunk of me...another selling point. This in turn helps me look not-quite-so-'tarsed when I'm bustin out to a glitch set trying to bullshit some hip hop. Having an actual ass to move is greatly helpful.

    Unfortunately, as much as I love glitch...those sets notoriously kick my ass since they require mass amounts of energy to pull off.
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    Great tips!! #5 I've never done, and will try next time I go on stage. I used to be able to really dance and play with the pole. Unfortunately, in my main club, stage is horrible, the floor girls will rudely climb on the guys at the tip rail and it's very irritating. When I do go up, I feel so uncomfortable with the the 7" heels on a slippery stage that I resort to mostly crawling around stage and flexing my tits and ass. I know it sounds icky, but I'm pretty good at it, plus it keeps me from falling. I've done that too many times. I can't agree more than making eye contact and keeping a smile!! You can communicate so much with your eyes that it's almost magical.

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    Amen!

    I can't stress the eye contact thing enough. Also, people instinctively raise their brows when they see someone attractive. Do this intentionally while you stare into a customers eyes and you're almost guaranteed a tip. Makes 'em feel like you WANT THEM. And thats the fantasy they're ultimately paying for : ).

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    muladoll, the pole is there to help give you something to hold onto so you don't wipe out as often!

    And as I said in #10, accidents DO happen. Because I tend to do a lot of dancing with my weight forward on the balls of my feet (in those god-awful platforms), I've had a LOT of times that I've wiped out HARD. The more I dance, the stronger my ankles are getting, and the less I wipe out, but I still trip and fall. I just laugh (no matter how bad it hurts!) and get on with the show. I can't tell you how many times I've had guys tip my JUST BECAUSE I got up laughing.



    And I have a Number 11: Pole work or advanced dancing can be impressive, particularly as an attention-getter. My club has very high poles (about 18 feet tall), and climbing all the way to the top of the pole will usually get heads to turn. Don't think you NEED pole or dancing skills to strip, but if you develop a few of these, they can be useful sometimes. Women in particular tend to tip better when you're "doing something". They're also no substitute for personality. When you're standing on stage and nobody's paying attention, a lot of girls are guilty of just STANDING there, or sitting "criss-cross-applesauce" on the stage. I've also seen girls do the "running man", and I've done the "electric slide" from time to time, always with a big smile and a goofy attitude. Sometimes that will help get the guys out of their seats.

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    If people are looking at you and are pretty close to the stage and obviously aren't going to tip you, point them out and give the "come here" motion with you're finger.

    I get at least 5 bucks on my stage rotations that way and it makes me feel better because I didn't let them get away with being a total cheap ass.

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    things you sometimes forget when you dont dance for a while. I like the classy lady part. Its true. Thanks for your tips

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