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    hey.

    does anyone here know anything about revoking the bail bond of someone whose bond you co-signed and co-paid on? a couple of months ago i helped bail out the husband of a very beloved friend of mine. had i know that there was a history of physical abuse i would not have helped bail him out at all, but after he was released he told me to revoke his bond if he ever hit or hurt again. well i just found out that all of his talk about 'how much better' he is becoming and how much he is 'improving' has all been total bullshit, and that he actually assaulted her about two weeks ago and gave her whiplash and everything. which i should have expected from a misogynistic and manipulative narcissist who behaves more like a pimp than a husband.

    who knows what i was thinking. i guess i kept hoping that he really was improving and that my friend would eventually be happy with him. obviously i was wrong and i am glad that i learned this before any more harm came to her, and fortunately she is finally realizing that he needs to be gone.

    she and i have talked about revoking his bond a little bit but she always gets cold feet about leaving him once her anger over this argument or that argument cools down. so i promised her that i would be the one to revoke the bond, that i would be the one to accept any anger from doing so, and that i would even if she changed her mind and wanted to stay with him. she was appreciative of that promise and continues to be. not only is not a good situation for her but he DID make me promise, and i AM a woman of my word.

    so my question is this: does anyone have experience with revoking bail? and if so, how long does it usually take for someone to be picked up and returned to jail? i tried to get a straight answer of the bail lady but she was really kind of super vague about it, and i need to know how much time my friend needs to be out of the apartment for and all of that.

    so yeah. any experience with this?

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    To be honest, once you bail him out I don't think he has to go back until he beats her again.

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    No, no.

    He was not in jail for beating her. If those had been the charges then I would have known and I would have not helped to bail him out. He was in jail for a multitude of drug posession and cultivation and sales charges which all add up to a potential five year sentence, at least. And the assault I mentioned happened after he was released on bond, not before. He has not been sentenced yet and is only out on bail until the time of his sentencing. It is not like parole. If even one person revokes the bail bond then there is no longer enough money to keep him out on bail so he does go back to jail where he will stay until his next court date and the time of his sentencing. If he is convicted and sentenced then he will most likely serve the full five years.

    I know all of this to be pretty much true, and all this was explained to me by the bail lady when I co-signed. His bail was $15,000 and the bond was $1,500 total. I paid a little over half of that (money was coming in pretty good at the time so I could afford to help in that way) which means there will no longer be enough on bond so his bond is revoked by the courts. Which means he is no longer out-on-bond and since he can only be out-on-bond that means he goes back to jail. So I am just trying to get a more straight answer on the time frame and all of that.

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    Hhhmm, sorry I don't know then... you're a good friend! That's all I have to say!!!

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    I don't have any experience with this other than watching Dog the Bounty Hunter.

    Go to the bail bonds office and remove your name and responsibility for the bond.

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    ^^^What she said. Go to the bondsman and tell him you no longer wish to be on the bond, and tell him WHY. The bondsman will normally do one of three things: 1)Arrest the guy, since his co-signer (or security) backed out, 2)Call the guy and tell him he needs to find another security to be on the bond, or 3)Let it ride, at risk to himself.

    When you sign on a friend's bond, it's like signing as co-signer on a friend's car loan. Let me see if I can explain this:

    When you go to jail, let's say the judge sets your bond at $10,000. You have three options: 1)Sit in jail, 2)Pay the $10,000 to the court; if you show for all our court hearings, etc., you'll get your $10,000 back. It's like a deposit that says that you won't run away, or 3)Find a bondsman to bond you out of jail. The bondsman doesn't actually have to PAY the $10,000 because of his license. Instead, he signs paperwork with the government stating that if you run, he'll retrieve you or else he'll pay $10,000 to the court.

    Now obviously, this is a bit risky for the bondsman. They generally earn their money off of the fees you pay them for bailing you out, but if you run, they're screwed. So they're going to ask you for some form of security. Some people may offer their house as security, meaning that if they run and the bondsman has to pay the $10,000, the bondsman may then place a lien on the home and eventually foreclose on it if the lien is not paid. Other people may offer co-signers. Many bondsmen prefer dealing with multiple co-signers, the theory being that it's better to present the fugitive to the courts than to pay the bond, and anyone close enough to the prisoner to be willing to co-sign on the bond would be likely to know where he was if he ran. The catch to this is that, as security to the criminal, you're kind of like a co-signer on a car loan. If he runs, they could show up and demand that YOU pay the bond.

    You can go to the office and ask that you be removed from his bond. This isn't all that uncommon, but look at it from the bondsman's perspective. Now you've basically said, "If this guy runs, I ain't paying." The bondsman is now between a rock and a hard place. If he leaves this guy alone and this guy runs, the bondsman is out a lot of money, and he can't collect it from you.

    YOU cannot revoke anyone's bail. But you CAN remove your name as security for the loan, and most bondsmen will then contact the court and say, "We wish to be removed from this bond," which will then cause the COURT to revoke his bail and issue a warrant for his arrest, which the bondsmen (or his bounty hunters--they often employ a number of contractors for this) will then execute by arresting the guy.

    At least, that's how it works here in Texas, from what my friends have told me. I had some friends way back when that used to work as bounty hunters, and that's how they explained it to me.

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    Excellent.

    Then all I have to do is call the bond lady and ask her to give me a more clear answer on the timeframe. Then his sorry ass is grass.

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    Short on time - didn't read it all. But if he's getting sentenced soon, the bond will be released when he's sentenced, and you can wait it out.

    If your idea is to protect your female friend between now and time of sentencing, then I'm sorry I missed that part. But at any rate, yes, the bail bonds(wo)man is the one to contact.

    I'm not certain if the bail bondsman will necessarily release you. I don't know why a bondsman would need a cosigner. They have the insurance backing it up. If you were cosigning for the bail fee (usually 10% of the amount of the bail), then they may not want to release you.

    BUT, I've never been through the process. Good luck. Your friend should go see the local shelter. She needs education and support.

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    1. You're awesome.

    2. Getting the hell out of dodge is almost always the anwer.



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