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    Undressing on stage, no strip/no tip

    Yes, I stole this idea from the blue side, first of all. I'd like to get a mixed convo going about this.

    I tend to get naked pretty quickly on stage. There are no rules at my club as to (by x song) do I need to be showing body parts. My club is full nude, juice bar.

    Many girls won't show crotch - or even take off/show anything unless they see "enough" dollars on stage or get enough dollars while they are on stage, and even then many of them will move their thong aside instead of taking it off.

    I always take off my thong, gives a better view IMO. When there are few people at stage or when guys don't seem to be tipping, I take off everything but my thong... and then I come to someone who seems interested, say hello, start dancing. It usually gets the tips started. For the first person I dance for on stage, my thong comes completely off.

    If the tips stop, people leave the stage and seem really disinterested, I may put my thong back on and maybe my bottom. I'll normally leave myself topless even if the tips have stopped. We ARE asked to "move around the stage" even if we aren't getting tipped. I figure at least topless, I might catch someone's eye and they might come over to tip and watch.

    What is your style, ladies?

    Guys, what do you expect at stage? Do you prefer a dancer to tease her clothes off? Dance for a few guys, slowly showing parts, taking parts of clothes off a little at a time? Or do you just want to see it? Does a no-nonsense, gets-naked-right-away woman turn you on?
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    If the crowd is small or the dollars aren't flowing I would never remove my thong. That's the main leverage we have,darling,so I always hold out for the maximum payback. Now if the club is crowded and I see money being offered I remove the thong quickly and show my goods,leave nothing to the imagination. It's a momentum kind of thing,catch the flow of the evening and go with it. Karen

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    I agree with Karen. I used to take off my undies every set no matter what when I was a newbie. But since I've realized it's leverage, I can recognize when it's a good idea to leave it on.

    Stage is a big deal in my state though. It can be anywhere from a third to the majority of your earnings. If I didn't send a message that the quality of the stage show is determined by their willingness to tip, I'd be flashing it all night to cheapskates.

    I'm not particularly one of those girls who only takes it off for the best tipped sets. If there's a couple people tipping minimum and being decent I'll take it off. But if there's people not tipping, or the tips have dried up and they're still at my rack...no. It stays on.

    The customers who would pitch a fir or cop an attitude over that aren't anyone I want to spend time on anyway.

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    Not sure what a question addressed to "ladies" is doing in CC, but here's my 2 cents.

    BSW (Before Stripper Web), I wouldn't tip until the dancer took something off. I couldn't understand why many times she wouldn't take anything off.

    ASW (After Stripper Web), I tip as soon as the dancer comes on stage, and then I tip again when she comes by me to get the first tip. Then I tip again while she's dancing for the second tip, etc.

    I have a much better time now.

    VeraLynn, I would be happy to have you start stripping before I start tipping, so go right ahead with your method. If it is making money for you, it is working.

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    At my club, it's a 3 song set and I am usually topless in the middle of my first song and nude by the second song and I spread my legs and show everything. Although if the customers do seem really cheap, I tend to keep my legs together a bit more. The clientele down here really go for the "slutty" stripper and not the reserved one which is how I used to be.

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    I don't ever sit at the stage, I'm always at the bar, or a table right next to it. I'll go up and tip a girl if I'm actually watching her show, which is fair I think. Often, I'm not paying attention to the stage.

    I've tipped when the girl gets up there, during anyone of the three songs, and when she walks off. There doesn't seem to be any set pattern for me, it's just when the impulse hits me.

    It's very rare at my club to tip at stage, so it's always greatly appreciated.

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    I try to pick up on it. I don't really have a specific dollar amount before I take stuff off because if there's only one guy at the rack and he's tipping a decent amount, then I don't want to be a bitch.

    But if I'm suspicious, I'll ask the dancer before me if so and so tipped her. If not, then I don't take anything off until I see money and then it's roughly an article per clothing per dollar. If I don't get anything and the second song is almost over I take a seat on the rack.

    I probably do come across as a bitch, but you gotta draw the line somewhere. I find this is a good indicator of someone that wouldn't tip a dollar if Beyonce was up there getting naked.
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    We have to get nude no matter what, it's a $100 fine if we don't. However, if we didn't have this rule I'd probably still get nude if no one was tipping. Why? Because I feel it's part of my job as a nude dancer to get nude and dance. Yes, not getting tipped sucks but it's an occupational hazard. Some guys are just shy about tipping. If a guy is at my stage and not tipping I tell him to get the fuck off of my stage if he isn't going to tip.

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    It all depends on my mood. "No tipping, no stripping" applies if the guys are just sitting on their ass. But sometimes I'm undressed before the first song is over. My club just got rid of pasties so my top comes off pretty quick now a days!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaiarose View Post
    We have to get nude no matter what, it's a $100 fine if we don't. However, if we didn't have this rule I'd probably still get nude if no one was tipping. Why? Because I feel it's part of my job as a nude dancer to get nude and dance. Yes, not getting tipped sucks but it's an occupational hazard. Some guys are just shy about tipping. If a guy is at my stage and not tipping I tell him to get the fuck off of my stage if he isn't going to tip.
    This is exactly why I'm not worried about getting nude. Many guys complain when a dancer doesn't get nude on stage at our nude club... and I can't say I blame them. They pay extra to get into the nude side as opposed to the topless side and have a 2-drink minimum, although only 1 drink is enforced, especially when it's busy. i prefer to be nude, and am afraid that the first guy or two who doesn't get to see much because I'm slowly undressing will feel a bit miffed... and it will re-enfirce them to not want to be the first one to put up tips. When it's 18+, you know most of them aren't looking for "classy," they're looking for pussy.
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    Depends on type of club. If a 2 song set, teasing 1st song in a topless club might be "ok", but top better come off early in 2nd song. In a nude club, top off at least halfway through 1st song, nude early in 2nd song. I've seen some dancers in nude clubs not get nude until last 20-30 seconds of last song.

    I expect a substantial portion of total dancers set to be "as advertised".

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    Quote Originally Posted by iseestars View Post
    At my club, it's a 3 song set and I am usually topless in the middle of my first song and nude by the second song and I spread my legs and show everything. Although if the customers do seem really cheap, I tend to keep my legs together a bit more. The clientele down here really go for the "slutty" stripper and not the reserved one which is how I used to be.
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    Nothing is as beautiful to me as the classic lines of a completely nude STANDING woman...so in a sense, OP, you're right that you being nude is more likely to draw me up there, than if you were waiting for me to come up to start taking it off.

    On the thong issue, at the 2 nude clubs I go to, fully 40-50% of the dancers NEVER take off their thong, which is in a sense to me false advertising. I guess it's up to mgmt to enforce this. Almost always these are girls who have been there awhile and feel like they can set their own rules. Probably most will do the "pull to the side", but a significant percentage don't even do this, they essentially are just topless dancers in a nude club.

    If it works for them, then it works for them, but it kind of loses me.

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    The reluctance of a dancer to remove her clothing looks worse when its a radical departure from what other girls in that club are doing. In a club where other girls are doing about the same thing, I'm not even likely to notice.

    Frankly, I've never had a problem with the concept of "you scratch my back and I'll scratch yours" in a SC setting. If a gal is hot enough, I'm tipping her, regardless of whether she's covered, topless or nude. I do hope though, that she will return the favor in kind. I've made the decision on whether to buy dances later a lot of times over how a gal reacts to me tipping her.
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    It's different, I would say, based on the the club and more importantly the stage design and all. Some club's like mine the dancer come's out and dance's for individual's one at a time for the tip they set on the rail. In other club's with smaller stages the girls are able to dance for everyone at the tip rail without leaving anyone feeling left out over the coarse of her set. In my club the first customer get's the same show as the last one and I have about 150' of tip rail so you must show all the goodies for your first tip. The reason being is on a really busy night you will not get back to him during the coarse of a set so one guy get's a spandex camel toe for his tip and the one across the way get's everything for the same money. Beside's like VeraLynn said Customer's pay more and give up alcohol at the door for a reason they want to see more then is offered at the pasty bar down the road.

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    I will usually get nude if the customers don't completely suck ass. If they have been at the rail and have not tipped me, then forget about it, nothing comes off. If custies are out in the audience not doing anything (buying drinks or dances from anyone) then I will leave it on. Most occassions I get nude. I don't understand the girls who work at nude clubs and never get nude either.
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    We have rules on this, and fines for not following.
    Three song sets. Top off some time in the second song, thong off somewhere around the middle of the third song. However, we are actually required to be reasonably modest on stage with regards the showing of vag. No legs spread open stuff when naked, which kinda limits the moves you can do. Because of this, I tend to wait as long as possible to get fully naked, just because I like to be able to dance more freely. Am not shy and am happy to give guys a quick flash in return for a tip in the g-string.
    I usually wear long gowns/skirts so I like to take them off quickly so I can play on the pole, so I guess that makes up for it a bit.
    Most of the times I've been *really* slow to take my g-string off it's because I was too busy collecting tips

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    I usually set a "pace" based on how many people are in the club, i.e, the minimum per song for me to take that song's clothing item off, basically. If the club is nearly empty, it doesn't need to be much. It's a compromise between "marketing" and hedging my bets. In the past I have found it humiliating to be naked for free... and unnecessarily adversarial to put clothes back on during the set.
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    At my club we don't get nude on stage unless someone pays $20 for a one song table dance. Then we get naked during that song just for that customer. We are not allowed to stand up on the stage when doing a naked table dance.
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    I'm new to this forum but a veteran club patron. Thanks to all you lovely ladies for making my business travel bearable and entertaining! I'm chiming in now because I had this very same conversation with a young lady in Florida a few weeks ago. She was sitting with me chatting and she commented that she'd only been dancing for three months and had gotten naked on stage for the first time the previous night, and she'd made more money than ever before. I asked her why she stayed fully clothed tonight and she said it was because no one but me had tipped her.

    I gently reminded her that the money almost always comes after the strip, not before. We sat for a while and watched a few ladies dance, observing when the clothes came off and when the cash started flowing. The correlation was pretty obvious to me, but I think she still doubted that she could count on the payoff if she went first.

    As for me, here's my tipping policy when I'm sitting stage-side at a nude club:
    Fully clothed - I'll usually tip once to help get things started.
    Topless - I'll usually tip once to help keep things going.
    Nude - I'll usually tip at least once whether I dig the dancer or not, because that's the price of sitting at the rail. If I'm really enjoying her dancing I'll tip her every time she come over to me.

    Sometimes I'm surprised that dancers will wait until the last song to go nude when it's obvious that little or no money is going to start flowing until then. The sooner you get naked the sooner the bills will come out, and you can walk off the stage with fifty instead of fifteen.
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    I always wait until I have a couple of bucks up there to take anything off. It usually doesn't take long, but every once in a while I'll get to the second song without anyone coming up. It makes me a little hostile, I guess, and I have a certain amount of control when I make the decision as to when I want to undress. I'm not stuck up about it, and if you come and tip me I will show you my tits, but I'm not getting undressed for nothing.

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    At my club, tipping is the exception and not the rule and so I see stage as a chance to advertise myself and not a chance to make money. I therefore show as little nudity as possible.

    1st song - completely clothed
    2nd song - will go topless or bottomless when there is about 1 minute left in the song.
    3rd song - topless halfway through and naked in the last 30 seconds.

    For the naked part, the song is winding down and I stop dancing and just walk sexy in big circles around the stage just so the custies know I have an awesome body and that I wasn't keeping my clothes on to hide anything.

    I really believe this strategy helps me most for money making.

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    At my club, you GET IN TROUBLE if you take off anything before you are tipped some undetermined amount that changes depending on who narked you out and what housemom is working. I prefer to be straight up and just take off my clothes if no one is tipping - that gets them tipping, and if it doesn't, at least I don't look like a stuck up prude to someone too shy to tip but who might get VIP.

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    Rarely does anyone make any money on the podium at my club so no-one really strips off unless they are drunk and bored and not making money (hey great idea, they aren't spending money so lets reward them with free nudity!). An example the other night on podium I was teasing a guy sitting at my table and it was looking like I would get a dance dance from him when I got off. That is until his mate started tugging his sleeve and pointing to the girl on the table across the room. "look over there- free titties"
    I never got my lapdance and she didn't get any money either. We both lost from that display of nakedness.

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