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    Default Los Angeles is now a 'Third World City'

    elections do have consequences ... in this case about 30 years worth of elections.

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    Default Re: Los Angeles is now a 'Third World City'

    Quote Originally Posted by Melonie View Post
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.../23/wla123.xml

    elections do have consequences ... in this case about 30 years worth of elections.
    L.A. has passed N.Y.C. and is now leading the way to 3rd World status. I think it's too late for us to control immigration and to assert English as our official language. We are rapidly going the way of Britain which is becoming ungovernable thanks to religious and ethnic tensions and divisions.

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    Default Re: Los Angeles is now a 'Third World City'

    Hahaha! I love this line
    The US Census Bureau last year predicted that by 2050, minorities will account for half of all residents across America.
    Since when is 50% considered a "minority"?

    Ignoring the immigration situation by lawmakers is really starting to take a toll. Of course, that is a really hard nut to crack. Too hard apparently.

    So lets work on something like this instead: H.J.Res. 8 (ih) Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States to repeal the twenty-second article of amendment, thereby removing the limitation on the number of terms an individual may serve as President. [Introduced in House]

    Or this:H.J.Res. 12 (ih) Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States authorizing the Congress to prohibit the physical desecration of the flag of the United States. [Introduced in House]

    I can see how those are pressing matters that need to be addressed right away. The stuff like the war, the economy and immigration will still be there for someone else to deal with, right?

    Wouldn't it be nice if our elected officials actually did their jobs instead of making up excuses for doing this busy-work?



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    Default Re: Los Angeles is now a 'Third World City'

    Since when is 50% considered a "minority"
    when they are eligible for preferential treatment ! I wonder if this will reverse in 2050, i.e. lowered college eligibility thresholds for 'white' Americans, tougher de-facto firing standards for 'white' employees etc. as 'white' Americans fall below 50% of the US population ?

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    Default Re: Los Angeles is now a 'Third World City'

    I have heard this song before,

    The new immigration as a class is far less intelligent than the old. .. Generally speaking, they are actuated in coming by different ideals, for the old immigration came to be part of the country, while the new, in a large measure, comes with with the intention of profiting, in a pecuniary way by the superior advantages of the new world and then returning to the old country."

    --The Dillingham Report, 1911

    It was not true then. It is not true now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Melonie View Post
    when they are eligible for preferential treatment ! I wonder if this will reverse in 2050, i.e. lowered college eligibility thresholds for 'white' Americans, tougher de-facto firing standards for 'white' employees etc. as 'white' Americans fall below 50% of the US population ?

    I remember working in Santa Clara I wondered if being white meant I would receive minority status. (Whites are in the minority of the population.)

    Apparently it isn't so much a numbers game but what race you are that determines if one is a minority. I could be part of a race that had fewer numbers in the area and yet not be "protected."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melonie View Post
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.../23/wla123.xml

    elections do have consequences ... in this case about 30 years worth of elections.
    Here is a more in-depth article from the "Los Angeles Times" on the same topic,

    http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la...tory?track=rss

    Should be interesting to see if the politicians can preserve their precious tax base. Or if they've already killed off the "goose that lays the golden eggs".

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    white people still get more money for the same work and also get hired more often, all qualifications being equal. there is such a thing as privilege, even when you are no longer (or never were) the majority. like the chinese in singapore, to use a non-american example.

    when law enforcement is predominantly black or hispanic and whites are getting arrested way more often despite using drugs at a lower overall rate, then we can have a conversation about whites being a proper minority--maybe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miabella View Post
    white people still get more money for the same work and also get hired more often, all qualifications being equal. there is such a thing as privilege, even when you are no longer (or never were) the majority. like the chinese in singapore, to use a non-american example.

    when law enforcement is predominantly black or hispanic and whites are getting arrested way more often despite using drugs at a lower overall rate, then we can have a conversation about whites being a proper minority--maybe.
    I wish it worked that way - but all we end up with is the fiasco about to rip into NYC where blacks claim racism on blacks. I look forward to the very near implosion of political correctness.

    At least you are honest though - the whole idea is less about numbers and more about enforced handicapping and handing out special privileges.
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    Sorry folks, I don't feel threatened. My grandfather stumbled off the boat from Poland. Never did learn to overcome is accent. Great, hard-working guy raised nine daughters.* Why are immigrants now a threat?

    I like immigrants. They have good food, pretty girls and neat religious festivals. Some even dress funny.




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    Quote Originally Posted by miabella View Post
    white people still get more money for the same work and also get hired more often, all qualifications being equal. there is such a thing as privilege, even when you are no longer (or never were) the majority.
    There is also such a thing as Affirmative Action, whereby black and Latino candidates get priority in education and employment opportunities despite having lower qualifications, even if they belong to a higher economic class than a White or Asian candidate. Funny how people crying about double standards never seem to care about this one.

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    when law enforcement is predominantly black or hispanic and whites are getting arrested way more often despite using drugs at a lower overall rate, then we can have a conversation about whites being a proper minority--maybe.
    A vast percentage of drug offenders are in prison for distribution rather than use. And drug dealers, especially the ones selling on the street corner in full view, usually tend to be young blacks and Latinos from the inner city. There is no racial conspiracy there.
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    ^^^^ That's bull,,, in my neighborhood most of the local druggies an drug dealers hanging around are white (meth heads),,,and I am in LA.

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    ^^^ arguably, that's simply another part of the 'third world-ization' of Los Angeles and New York and (pre-Katrina) New Orleans and other large American cities. Just like Mexico or Colombia, 'partnerships' develop between corrupt politicians / police and certain criminal elements. This translates into competing criminal elements being crushed, while the 'gov't sanctioned' criminal element continues to operate in de-facto partnership with local gov't officials and local cops ! If there is a difference, it is that in Mexico and Columbia both the local gov't and the criminal partners are hispanic.

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    LA is..."interesting" but it's also a huge metropolitan area + outlying suburbs. That many people will naturally form their own subculture.

    Not arguing the point, just deadened to LA. (<Smug NorCal native.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by TarsTone View Post
    There is also such a thing as Affirmative Action, whereby black and Latino candidates get priority in education and employment opportunities despite having lower qualifications, even if they belong to a higher economic class than a White or Asian candidate. Funny how people crying about double standards never seem to care about this one.


    A vast percentage of drug offenders are in prison for distribution rather than use. And drug dealers, especially the ones selling on the street corner in full view, usually tend to be young blacks and Latinos from the inner city. There is no racial conspiracy there.
    people also never seem to care about the unqualified white legacy admissions, as far as that goes. affirmative action actually does not work the way you're describing-- it compares like to like. those white c students complaining that 'their spot' in college was taken by a black student with b's are generally the ones i hear complaining about 'double standards'. (which is white privilege, believing that you deserve college regardless of grades)

    you're also wrong about drug dealer demographics. most people who get arrested are arrested and jailed for possession (typically of weed), and there are plenty of statistics (not BS 'anecdotal' crap like what you just spewed) showing that black people use drugs less but go to jail for the use MORE than whites. again, white privilege. you aren't saying anything about the very white biker gangs and their role in drug distribution of meth and marijuana.

    bah at your blind, smug racism. complexity escapes you and explaining it is just too long to fit into this comment window.

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    ^ Please. Spare me your sanctimonious race-baiting drivel. If anyone here is racist or at least race-obsessed, it is you. You even tried to twist Sh0t' stalkerish crashing of some gathering into a "racist" situation, for which you eventually apologized after realizing you had embarrassed yourself.

    Ask any drug user in town where they score their junk, and they'll point you to somewhere in the inner city. That's where most drug deals go down, and that's where most offenders for possession are arrested. One more factor to consider when complaining about racial disparity in sentencing is the higher overall percentage of crimes in the black community: Black drug dealers are more likely to have previous offenses on their record at the time of arrest, which in turn increases their sentences. But hey, Hell's Angels sell drugs too and some guy here knows a white drug dealer in his neighborhood, so I guess that is all null and void.

    Your problem -and it is a rather trendy one- is that your concern for your community is limited to screaming against "white privilege", even where none exists. All problems are either blamed on that or simply denied and explained away. Now feel free to continue if it makes you feel morally superior, but understand that you're not helping anybody by pretending this is still the America of 1958.

    At the end of the day, this country is nowhere near as racist as those who think like you want it to be. Especially when it comes to institutional racism.
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    Sorry but this whole L.A is a third world city thing is total crap. I won't even get into how ABSURD the claim of white privledge not existing is, others are handling that subject just fine. I do however want to say how bloody awful I think the racism and classism that is dripping from some of the posts here is- but back to people trying to pretend L.A. being third world.

    Yes, L.A has it's problems for sure (as do all large metro areas) but since when is a median income of $43,518, homeownership of 47.9%, median home value of over $200 grand and a poverty level of 16.7% considered a "third world country" ?



    I mean come on. Pftt! Give me an effn break.
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    ^ Tell me about it. It's like the height of amazing nerve! Ya know what I mean??
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    since when is a median income of $43,518, homeownership of 47.9%, median home value of over $200 grand and a poverty level of 16.7% considered a "third world country" ?
    ... good question ... perhaps when the median income is skewed so high by the existance of 2-3-5% multimillion dollar incomes ! Perhaps when homeownership was only possible by gov't subsidized HUD low income mortgage policy (and the foreclosures have been staved off by gov't intervention). Perhaps when the median home value has also been skewed by the existance of 2-3-5% ultramansions ! Perhaps when the 'official poverty level' is, shall we say, 'selectively reported' by the gov't.

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    ^ Usually the simple answer is the correct one so either it's all some big giant conspiracy on numerous levels to cover up it's Third World status or perhaps the claiming of it to be a Third World city is just crap. I'm going with the simple answer on this one.
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