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    I'm currently about to enroll back in school and recently the porn bug has been biting at me. I have to ask those involved in the business, what other avenues of work are open while doing or after porn? I've always heard of the porn curse or whatever, where ppl associated with such are let got in regards to "conflict of interest" and such. What other things can ppl in porn do or shall I phrase it, is it at all possible to work in porn and still live somewhat of a normal life, job, etc?

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    Depends on what you plan on doing. Any sort of 'white collar' job is NOT going to be happy about a porn background. If your employer ever got his/her hands on your work, you could be fired due to 'morality issues/conflicts of interest.' If it's a job where you interact w/ the public, they won't want a face that could be recognized. If it's a 'care' job or a job where you need to act as a role model for customers/employees/citizens/etc (or a managerial position) you're likely to be passed up because you aren't a good role model/leader. Women will look down on you and men will objectify you. You won't be taken seriously.

    HOWEVEr... if it's something in the art/design world, something in film, something in cosmetics, something behind the scenes in traditional 'blue-collar' work like auto mechanics... I'd imagine you'd be ok.

    Unless you're planning on running your OWN business in the future, I'd say stick to dancing and jobs that don't require photographic evidence that could damage your future. Until you make up your mind, why risk potentially sabotaging something?

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    I am not in porn but I am a good friend to a gal who did adult films about ten years ago. The most important thing to remember is that porn is forever. You can shoot scenes for a few months or a few years but the work you did will live on long after you are out of the business. The internet age means that the stuff gets sold and re-sold, re-distributed and seen by millions. You will never know when one of your scenes will pop up again years from now.

    There are certain occupations that will not look favorably on your porn career. Depending on the district, many cities and towns have morals clauses that require a squeaky clean past if you want to work with kids or in any public service job for that matter. Beyond that it is more a matter of what happens if you are recognized by a boss or coworker after years on the job when they see one of your old scenes at a bachelor party.

    Deciding to do it or not is of course a personal decision. Just realize that the work you do will be around for a long time after you want to forget you ever did it.
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    I personally would not due porn solely based on the fact that my father might see it.....
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    God loves strippers and when guys do things like that its an automatic ticket to HELL!


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    Quote Originally Posted by ColetteCalahan View Post
    Depends on what you plan on doing. Any sort of 'white collar' job is NOT going to be happy about a porn background. If your employer ever got his/her hands on your work, you could be fired due to 'morality issues/conflicts of interest.' If it's a job where you interact w/ the public, they won't want a face that could be recognized. If it's a 'care' job or a job where you need to act as a role model for customers/employees/citizens/etc (or a managerial position) you're likely to be passed up because you aren't a good role model/leader. Women will look down on you and men will objectify you. You won't be taken seriously.

    HOWEVEr... if it's something in the art/design world, something in film, something in cosmetics, something behind the scenes in traditional 'blue-collar' work like auto mechanics... I'd imagine you'd be ok.

    Unless you're planning on running your OWN business in the future, I'd say stick to dancing and jobs that don't require photographic evidence that could damage your future. Until you make up your mind, why risk potentially sabotaging something?
    I don't get it !?

    We can't change how people in general are looking upon you. Being a stripper and/or a pornstar or prostitute for that matter ... Fine !! Actually the bigger the stigma ... The better !!

    BUT !!

    If you'r getting a legal job ... In the public ot prvate sector ... It's not their business what you do or have done on your time of your own !!! If I'm a cockaholic lesbian who likes to exposure my self on the internet it is nobodys business but my own !! IMHO ... What is the legal issues here ?? If I may ask ... Melonie !!

    In Europe ...

    If you'r gay ... No problem !! You are protected by the law.

    Working in a public office you are even allowed to visually promoting your private religious believes !!!

    I don't get it ??

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    Ok I'm sure this is a stupid question but I honestly have no clue: if I decide to do porn will that hurt my chances of becoming a college professor? I didn't think it mattered until I came across this thread. For some reason I assumed a background in porn doesn't matter in the land of academia. Am I wrong!? I hope not

    (I guess I should mention I'm in the US where sex is scandalous lol)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Electrum View Post
    Ok I'm sure this is a stupid question but I honestly have no clue: if I decide to do porn will that hurt my chances of becoming a college professor? I didn't think it mattered until I came across this thread. For some reason I assumed a background in porn doesn't matter in the land of academia. Am I wrong!? I hope not

    (I guess I should mention I'm in the US where sex is scandalous lol)
    Maybe it would be a problem, maybe it wouldn't. I guess it would depend on the individual places and people. Maybe no one who matters would ever even find out...the question is, do you want to take the risk? Personally I wouldn't, but that's for you to decide.

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    ^^ I can see it maybe coming up in a smaller private college, but I have my doubts that it'd be an issue with a bigger university or community college. I have no clue, though.. I don't really see how anyone could find out unless I just blatantly advertised my porn? lol. And another stupid question: is porn considered "self employment" as far as annoying government forms are concerned? Sorry for the threadjack

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    Quote Originally Posted by Electrum View Post
    ^^ I can see it maybe coming up in a smaller private college, but I have my doubts that it'd be an issue with a bigger university or community college. I have no clue, though.. I don't really see how anyone could find out unless I just blatantly advertised my porn? lol.
    Um, people WATCH porn. Some of the people who watch it sit on the boards of colleges and universities all over the country. maybe a fellow professor will recognize you someday, maybe a student, maybe the dean of the university. It is simply a roll of the dice as to weather people will find out or not. One thing you can bet on is that it probably won't be from you telling them.
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    And another stupid question: is porn considered "self employment" as far as annoying government forms are concerned? Sorry for the threadjack
    Any legitimate production company will send you a 1099 form at the end of the year and you will have claim the income on your tax return.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yoda57us View Post
    Um, people WATCH porn. Some of the people who watch it sit on the boards of colleges and universities all over the country. maybe a fellow professor will recognize you someday, maybe a student, maybe the dean of the university. It is simply a roll of the dice as to weather people will find out or not. One thing you can bet on is that it probably won't be from you telling them.

    Any legitimate production company will send you a 1099 form at the end of the year and you will have claim the income on your tax return.
    He's right on both counts.

    I've had people in the mall, at lunch, at the effing Wal-Mart pharmacy, and even in the fuckin' hospital recognize me because they saw me in something. It's the people that you don't think would be watching that come up to me the most.

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    HAha I guess I assumed any porn gig I could get around here would be too sleazy to make it to the deans list.... errr... something.... my brain is fried!

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    Electrum - what's your specific academic field? Is it in the arts or sciences? Technical? That may make a difference.

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    ^^ The Humanities, that's why I thought no one would really care. Who knows, though. I guess I'll "play it safe" as far as porn goes... I was considering webcam maybe, but it's not like I'm desperate or anything lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Electrum View Post
    ^^ The Humanities, that's why I thought no one would really care. Who knows, though. I guess I'll "play it safe" as far as porn goes... I was considering webcam maybe, but it's not like I'm desperate or anything lol.

    I don't think it matters much what your career goals or major are. There are judgmental people in all walks of life and you never know when they will pop up in either your professional or private life.
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    I just wanna say, people are so fucking lame. If you have sex on film, somehow that makes you ineligible to be a good professor, or a good lawyer, or a good child-care provider? Absolutely stupid nonsense, I say.
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    Why porn? Is it the potential glamour and wealth like the Jenna Jameson thing?

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    OK, this is an issue near and dear to my heart because I shot porn for a couple of years and then gave it up. I now just dance and sometimes take pictures. Once in a while when my relationship is in the toilet I think about going back. I am in school for nursing and would like to be a nurse practitioner eventually.

    So here is my honest and informed opinion on the pros and cons of the adult video industry, please don't get mad if I speak in absolutes:

    PRO- Reliable money (in the beginning) When you are booked for a shoot you know you will walk with a big chunk of cash if the scene is completed. There is no wondering "how the night will go", if the customers will spend, what dirty girls are on shift, etc.

    CON- That money is usually taxable. The IRS will know exactly how much you made.

    PRO- You don't have to have a perfect tan, hairstyle, body shape, or even a good personality to make money. If your holes work, you're hired.

    CON- Several agents have told me, when I pressed them, that HALF OF THE INDUSTRY HAS HERPES, and more than half has some form of HPV! Although you are required to test monthly for HIV, gonnorhea, chlamydia, (bi-monthly syphillis) You never know if an industry girl is screwing all types of dudes outside the industry. Condom-only work is near obsolete and you still wouldn't be protected from the nearly undetectable but wholly transmissible HPV and Herpes I & II. You can get the vaccine for HPV but how are you going to explain the obvious and painful sores around your mouth to everyone? Pornstars who KNOW they have herpes and hpv will still book work enthusiastically. Why? Partially because thats how they make cash, but also because they probably got it from the industry so they are vengeful against it. Obviously a full-on outbreak would be obvious but it's not always visible and if they think they could get away with and make that money? of course they willl...

    PRO- It is easy work. Especially if you like sex...you will probably have some of the best sex of your life. These guys are goddamned professionals for a reason. nuff said.

    CON-It really freaks out your subsequent lovers. If they actually SEE you getting done on camera it may inspire episodes of premature ejaculation, erectile dysfunction and just plain ol' jealousy. Not to mention his totally reasonable fear of catching one of those incurable viruses from you.

    PRO-THERE IS SOOOO MUCH OUT THERE that chances are you will never ever get caught and can lead a long and satisfying career in acadamia, law, medicine or whatever you choose. I think many girls overestimate what their popularity in porn is going to be and think that they'll be a recognizable figure. Truthfully though, theres just so much being produced that you could slip in and out. What I did, to conceal my identity in a way, is change my name and my "look" every few scenes. I didn't give a fuck about building up a fan base, I just wanted the cash and then to get out.

    CON- If you are unique, pretty and give a good performance, you might get caught. Someone from my high school said they saw a pop-up of me. My only reply was something like "Well then who's the pervert now?"

    PRO-You feel like a glamorous star. You identify with the almighty sacred whore within. You are selling your sex and it's totally legal, you are a "performer" not a prostitute. You get dolled up by a make-up artist, wrapped in a robe, asked what you'd like to eat or drink and fussed over by everyone. The whole production revolves around you and it's fabulous.

    CON- YOU ARE A WHORE X 2. Quite often, the producer/director is "acting" with you in the scene and paying you himself. Then he's taking this footage of himself screwing you, and making even more money off of it. This is unavoidable. You can't say to your agent "I will only have sex with male performers who are paid, not doing the paying" It just doesn't work like that. You will have sex with almost anyone who is tested and asking for you, although you may have a size requirement or a desire to stay away from producers who attempt to get extreme hardcore footage.

    PRO-oops I ran out of pros...

    CON- It might hurt you physically and emotionally. Before I did a scene for inthevip.com the girl said: "Yeah I worked with Johnny before, he's a pounder, you might even bleed. I could feel that shit up in my chest!" WHAT?!?! You mean I'm going to fucked so hard I bleed? Well I didn't bleed but in the footage it is obvious I'm crying out in pain, not pleasure, because his anatomy is too large for my cavity. This has even happened in girl/girl scenes with dildos or fingers. You could say STOP and ruin the footage, or you can just shut your mouth and pretend you like it because you want to get paid. I think this hurts emotionally, to know that not only are you being penetrated by someone who does not love you, but that the money they'll make off of it is way more than you get paid. Unless you start a website and get residuals from your work, but then you are invested and thats definately not how you stay low-key.

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    I guess I just want to elaborate a little more on why I said WHORE. That was a little extreme. It's because there is this forum site, "adult dvd talk" where they discuss current events in porno. Anyhow, they refer to the girls as "good little whores" when they come back after hiatus or "bad slut" when they never graduate up to anal. It got me thinking about how similar it is to prostitution....

    One difference is that pornstars are always safe. They have their sex on sets, with a camera and many professional people involved. Whores have their sex behind closed doors without fear of it being broadcast but they are NEVER safe. They always run the risk of being harmed by their johns.

    Pornstars all get paid about the same amount for their scenes, but whores can vary their prices from $50 to $5,000.

    Porn is legal, going home with customers is not.

    Do porn, and you very well may be ousted and judged for it. Be a whore and nobody but you, the john and maybe a cab driver or hotel doorman will know.

    But I guess most importantly, in PORN, the scene runs it's course and you perform for the camera, pleasing those who watch it and taking direction from the director. With a john, you are pleasing HIM and succumbing to his wishes. Thats why the line gets blurred, if the director is fucking you, going "OOOhh, aaahh, thats good, right there, oh baby don't stop" Like, really enjoying YOUR BODY and paying you for it...then what's the difference? You can't avoid that icky feeling of "That guy just paid me to let him stick his dick in me".

    I hope it doesn't sound too much like I'm advocating being a whore. I'm just trying to shed some light on this taboo subject...

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    Yes, it can affect a teaching career. I've shot with models who didn't want their poses or drapings to be too suggestive or revealing because they hoped to teach someday. Given a choice between two qualified people, one of whom has a "nice" background and one of whom has a take-clothes-off/have-sex for money background, the school will most likely take "nice." And particularly in teaching jobs from elementary to seceondary schools, school boards do have pressure to look at "morals" issues.

    I'm not supporting that viewpoint. I'm just stating the obvious.

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    ^I think that was all really good feedback, Kennedy. Thank you for sharing your experience and perspective!

    Slightly-but-not-really-off-topic, how is it possible that trashy slutty shows like "A Shot At Love" have teachers on there? I mean, who would ever hire some young punk that goes on TV and gets absolutely smashed, rude and vulgar? To me, I would have more of a problem with someone's indiscretions on public TV than whatever private entertainment they did in a "past life."


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    Quote Originally Posted by SundayMorning View Post
    ^I think that was all really good feedback, Kennedy. Thank you for sharing your experience and perspective!

    Slightly-but-not-really-off-topic, how is it possible that trashy slutty shows like "A Shot At Love" have teachers on there? I mean, who would ever hire some young punk that goes on TV and gets absolutely smashed, rude and vulgar? To me, I would have more of a problem with someone's indiscretions on public TV than whatever private entertainment they did in a "past life."
    Well that's actually a great point but the old double standard is what it is. Unfortunately perception is all that really matters in this case.

    None of the female teachers that have been convicted of statutory rape for sleeping with their young students have been x-porn stars, by the way...
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    ^I think that was all really good feedback, Kennedy. Thank you for sharing your experience and perspective!
    I know I sort of gave more info than necessary but I have A LOT of "stuff" sort of pent up in me about this.
    What's weird though is that I've told some girls who were reeeaaally unhappy with dancing to go for it, and others to stay the hell away. If someone is really tired of the high volume of dancing, you know, dealing with like 50+ guys a night then it's a good option. I didn't start dancing until after the porn. Even so, I have no regrets because it was something I had to get out of my system. I'd always wonder about it and put it up on this pedestal if I hadn't have gone for it.

    And also, I'd just like to say that Ginger Lee is a very well known performer with an extensive list of credits. She also has a very recognizable face so it's understandable that she'd be spotted. I don't think a student dabbling in porn will have that much success.

    Ginger Lee- If you are reading this, did you go to school while performing or devote yourself entirely to your career? Making appearances, shooting and the upkeep in grooming seems like a full-time job!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by KennedyWinters View Post
    And also, I'd just like to say that Ginger Lee is a very well known performer with an extensive list of credits. She also has a very recognizable face so it's understandable that she'd be spotted. I don't think a student dabbling in porn will have that much success.

    Ginger Lee- If you are reading this, did you go to school while performing or devote yourself entirely to your career? Making appearances, shooting and the upkeep in grooming seems like a full-time job!!!
    When I started doing porn, I had already been done with school for more than a year. I don't think I would have been able to shoot full time and go to school, I would have killed myself.

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    word. props to you.

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    Why porn? Is it the potential glamour and wealth like the Jenna Jameson thing?
    Because where I am, shit like McDonalds or the local grocery store are the only other options... and they pay a lot less.. so basically the money, of course!

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