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    15 cops beating and kicking 3 suspects while on the ground caught on helicopter news camera. All 3 had to be treated at the hospital. the Police Commissioner urged viewers "not to rush to judgment". I'd lmao were it not so pathetic.
    That's right. Don't anyone believe their own eyes. For all we know the 3 men could have been having heart attacks and the officers were just performing mass CPR. Puleeze ! I'm sorry to see the Frank Rizzo tradition being carried on in Philadelphia.

    I'm lousy at linking but you can go to msn.com and see the video. But remember.
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    Perhaps a link may help with this post?

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    thanks pan dah, i'd found it. just cannot stand a post about facts that has no link.

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    Lol @ police brutality. They got beat, so what? Shouldn't have been on the wrong side of the law leading cops on a high speed chase during a tense time when three of their officers have been killed in two years. Who are the real "goons" here? The cops fear for their lives in this situation, I would've reacted the same and beat their asses just to be safe.

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    The violence situation in Philly is complicated. Both criminals and law enforcement feel desperate for various legitimate reasons right now. It's hard picking a side at this point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AznExtasy View Post
    Lol @ police brutality. They got beat, so what? Shouldn't have been on the wrong side of the law leading cops on a high speed chase during a tense time when three of their officers have been killed in two years. Who are the real "goons" here? The cops fear for their lives in this situation, I would've reacted the same and beat their asses just to be safe.
    I'm sorry but this is a very dangerous attitude. There were 15 cops. FIFTEEN and just 3 suspects. More importantly, it is NOT the job of the police to mete out punishment. That is NOT their function. They are supposed to effect arrest using reasonable force necessary to effect those arrests period. Unarmed suspects lying face down on the ground pose no risk. None. Zero. Zip. Nada.

    This unwritten code that if the cops have to chase you entitles them to give you a beat down is not compatible with a country bound by rule of law. It leads directly to excessive violence and FATALITIES. Ask Rodney King ( perhaps YOU approved of what was done to him ) Amadou Diallo and lately Sean Bell.

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    ok that case where the 3 cops got off, i can see that....this...this is just retarded.

    but hey, you dont want 15 cops beating the fuck out of you dont break the law i guess....

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    Is that the whole tape? Remember Rodney King? Most people didn't see the whole thing... I sympathize with both aspects though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jester214 View Post
    Is that the whole tape? Remember Rodney King? Most people didn't see the whole thing... I sympathize with both aspects though.
    Again. This is ridiculous. The "whole" King tape was of no help to the accused cops. Quite the contrary. It showed how long the beating lasted and how totally out of control and unprofessional they were.

    Philly is NOT "Bumfuck" South Dakota. They are supposed to have a trained and PROFESSIONAL police force.

    Here's the REAL problem. What was caught on the King tape and on this one happens EVERY day. It's just that MOST of the time, there is no video evidence.

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    I'd like to see the proof that this happens every day.
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    Please read/view this one the other story was shit.
    http://www.reelpopblog.com/2008/05/philadelphia-po.html

    Why doesn't anybody deserve an ass beating anymore?If someone for example came and robbed your house or the one next door or maybe fired off a few shots at someone down the road from your family/children, would a little ass beating really bother you?For me I think they need to hand out a few more these days.
    And I still dont know all the details of this incident so I am unsure if they did in fact deserve it.But if they were the ones who fired off the shots and ran from the scene or had anything to do with the incident in this matter.Then yes they got a good deserved ass beating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DJ Machismo View Post
    I'd like to see the proof that this happens every day.
    Go to any Arraignment Part in any major city and look at the suspects as they're brought in with the blood on their shirts and busted up faces. Go to any major E.R. as the cops bring in the suspects for medical attention after they "fell down" or "tried to injure self". Review how many cases get dismissed. Review how much major cities like NYC pay out every year to VICTIMS of the Police. Then do the math.

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    I am in full agreement with Eric on this. The cops are not supposed to beat people, they're supposed to arrest them and gather evidence. Just because you get arrested doesn't mean you're guilty. That's for the courts to determine. As is punishment. You are innocent until PROVEN guilty in this country, and guilty or not, you are still a human being and should be treated like one. FUCK COPS.
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    I still find police brutality amusing. Don't wanna get a beat down? Then don't run. Or better yet, don't be a thug on the wrong side of the law. Justice is not always served in a court of law. I'm all for citizens and police taking matters in their own hands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Stoner View Post
    Go to any Arraignment Part in any major city and look at the suspects as they're brought in with the blood on their shirts and busted up faces. Go to any major E.R. as the cops bring in the suspects for medical attention after they "fell down" or "tried to injure self". Review how many cases get dismissed. Review how much major cities like NYC pay out every year to VICTIMS of the Police. Then do the math.
    That math doesn't add up. That's all speculation, not PROOF.

    Some of my best friends are officers, and I can attest that quite often, criminals do stupid ass shit that kicks their own ass by no fault of a police officer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DJ Machismo View Post
    That math doesn't add up. That's all speculation, not PROOF.

    Some of my best friends are officers, and I can attest that quite often, criminals do stupid ass shit that kicks their own ass by no fault of a police officer.
    Sorry but the "Blue Fantasy World" is played out. "Kick their own ass" ? Puleeze !

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    Quote Originally Posted by AznExtasy View Post
    I still find police brutality amusing. Don't wanna get a beat down? Then don't run. Or better yet, don't be a thug on the wrong side of the law. Justice is not always served in a court of law. I'm all for citizens and police taking matters in their own hands.
    It's often a case pf proportionality. Did Rodney King deserve what happened ?
    He "ran" and was less than cooperative.
    Did the fact that a cop had gotten shot the day before give the Philly P.D. a license to behave like Gestapo goons ? Their Commissioner seems to think so ?

    As for your affection for vigilante justice; would you appreciate it if you were on the receiving end ? As part of someone making a "good faith mistake" ? You're arguing for anarchy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Stoner View Post
    Sorry but the "Blue Fantasy World" is played out. "Kick their own ass" ? Puleeze !
    I have witnessed it on many an occasion. As in I have seen it with my own eyes. I know its not played out.

    I never said it never happens, just getting to the point that many people, including yourself make it out to be a far more wide reaching problem than it really is.
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    sorry, but breaking the law doesn't entitle cops to beat the piss out of you. That isn't in their job description.
    I feel more and more that it isn't "serve and protect" anymore. It's a bunch of bullies that can do what they want because they are THE LAW.
    I had cops use extensive profanity in front of me, but when one of my friends dropped the F bom b (in an no derogatory use) one cop freaked and said not to cuss in front of him.
    I love most of my cop friends, they are great guys, but I have seen them in action and instead of being the fair people I know them to be, they are crude, rude and just make the victim feel like they are the criminal. Who knows what they do to the ones they THINK are the criminals.
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    I also want to say that I am not anti-cop in any way, have never been arrest or even gotten detention in school, I follow the laws as I know them to be. I am speaking from what I see in my town and on Cops. It doesn't take five men to hold down one unarmed guy that voluntrily laid down on the ground. Police brutality does exist, we just choose to say that the "criminals" deserve it.
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    This is one of those topics that has lots of speculation, lots of "facts and figures" and a lot of personal experience stories. We need to respect that each person sees this issue differently. If the bickering gets ripe here, Imma shut this thread down.
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    sean bell wasnt "unarmed" he gunned his car towards the cops. 50 shots? ok mabey a little over done. have you ever panicked while shooting a gun while you think your life is in danger? no? then shut the fuck up. your instincts, which are far stronger than any training, tell you to keep firing till the situation is over or you have to reload. if you have never been in the situation then dont say what can or should be done, the world has too many monday quarterbacks.

    i believe we should live in a world like judge dred. the law enforcement should be the judge, jury and executioner. if you don't want to catch shit stay clean and dont fuck around.

    i have also witnessed criminals harming themselves in the back of cruisers and while shackled to the benches just so they can say the cop beat them. i saw a guy snap his arm while cuffed to the bench in the station, of course it was all caught on tape and he couldnt say the cop did it.

    again, and the simplest way to put it is, if youve never been in the situation then don't comment. remember, these guys have a split second to make a decision, you have the luxury of sitting and bitching. don't like it? go take the test and get a badge and gun, work your way up the chain of command and when you become chief then your bitching might get something done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bounce86 View Post
    sean bell wasnt "unarmed" he gunned his car towards the cops. 50 shots? ok mabey a little over done. have you ever panicked while shooting a gun while you think your life is in danger? no? then shut the fuck up. your instincts, which are far stronger than any training, tell you to keep firing till the situation is over or you have to reload. if you have never been in the situation then dont say what can or should be done, the world has too many monday quarterbacks.

    i believe we should live in a world like judge dred. the law enforcement should be the judge, jury and executioner. if you don't want to catch shit stay clean and dont fuck around.

    i have also witnessed criminals harming themselves in the back of cruisers and while shackled to the benches just so they can say the cop beat them. i saw a guy snap his arm while cuffed to the bench in the station, of course it was all caught on tape and he couldnt say the cop did it.

    again, and the simplest way to put it is, if youve never been in the situation then don't comment. remember, these guys have a split second to make a decision, you have the luxury of sitting and bitching. don't like it? go take the test and get a badge and gun, work your way up the chain of command and when you become chief then your bitching might get something done.
    Lol exactly. Go be a cop and show em how it should really be done then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bounce86 View Post
    sean bell wasnt "unarmed" he gunned his car towards the cops. 50 shots? ok mabey a little over done. have you ever panicked while shooting a gun while you think your life is in danger? no? then shut the fuck up. your instincts, which are far stronger than any training, tell you to keep firing till the situation is over or you have to reload. if you have never been in the situation then dont say what can or should be done, the world has too many monday quarterbacks.

    i believe we should live in a world like judge dred. the law enforcement should be the judge, jury and executioner. if you don't want to catch shit stay clean and dont fuck around.

    i have also witnessed criminals harming themselves in the back of cruisers and while shackled to the benches just so they can say the cop beat them. i saw a guy snap his arm while cuffed to the bench in the station, of course it was all caught on tape and he couldnt say the cop did it.

    again, and the simplest way to put it is, if youve never been in the situation then don't comment. remember, these guys have a split second to make a decision, you have the luxury of sitting and bitching. don't like it? go take the test and get a badge and gun, work your way up the chain of command and when you become chief then your bitching might get something done.
    This is pure PBA propaganda i.e. " Don't sit in judgment of us because you don't know what it is like ". You know what is the MOST popular quote on cop's t-shirts ? It's Jack Nicholson's rant in "A FEW GOOD MEN" - something to the effect that he "doesn't have to justify himself to the those who benefit from the very security he provides."

    When you don't have justice you get violence. When the police do not respect the community; the community does not respect them and when they themselves do not respect the law then neither does anyone else. The "Dirty Harry" mentality has been proven to be counter-productive to good policing. Bill Bratton and others have proved that responsible professionalism get much better results than macho goon theatrics.

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    Where are you getting all of these facts of yours from?

    I agree when there is no justice there is violence. However that does not mean that assuming that all policemen are guilty of police brutality is a true statement. Its just an illogical assumption to believe that all parties act in exactly the same way.
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