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    Default *rant* 5$ Ld, F U Tucson!!!

    HOLY-MOTHERFUCKING-DAMN IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So apparently in Tucson, dances are 5$ dollars. At first I thought, no problem, I can still bank. But, I was thinking dances are sooooooo cheap cos they must sell like hotcakes & I'll be lap jumping all night! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! WROOOOOOOOOONG!

    AND THE SONGS AREN'T SHORT EITHER, THEY GO 3 1/2 - 4 1/2 MINUTES! FOR FUCKING 5$! What the fuck!? Now, I know I haven't danced for two years (which was kinda funny, cos I thought climbing the pole & doing all my old tricks is like riding a bike, you never forget... well, you don't forget how to do them, but you sure as hell forget how much strength and practice are involved).....

    Anyways, and there's a VIP at the club but that costs the guy 15$ to get in & then 10$ for each dance. I thought, well I'd sell VIP all night & earn at least 200$... but no. My first dance I sold VIP, but the guy only bought one and then when I went back to talk for a moment (club was sloow) he said what I did for 10$ in VIP was a good dance. A good floor dance. Then he basically told me that VIP is basically for the nasty/freaky stuff that I don't do. UGH FUCKING PRICK. Oh, also while up there he tried to keep me for a 2nd song, but only to talk. I told him that while we were up there talking, I was charging him 10$ for the song... his response "WHAT YOU CAN'T DO THAT, NO GIRL DOES THAT!?!" UUUUUUM, well back home around Chicago I DID THAT! Infact, one guy that came to see me semi-regularly would spend 300$ just for me to chat & have drinks with him.

    MOOOOOOOOOOOTTTTTTTTHHHHHHHHHEEEEERRRFFFFUUUCCCKKK KEEERRRS!


    *SIGH* I'm going to try & go back later this week. I know I'm going to have to learn a different hustle. But wow, do these girls know exactly how much they could have & the dances they give aren't worth this little of money!?

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    Default Re: *rant* 5$ Ld, F U Tucson!!!

    Try TD's East...Dances on the floor are $10 and getting into VIP is $30, dances are 15-20/song there or you could charge by the hour. I danced there a few years ago, so prices may have changed, but their dances should still be at LEAST $10 and I dont remember their songs being very long.
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    Default Re: *rant* 5$ Ld, F U Tucson!!!

    OMG I really have nothing really to say about this except: YIKES! This sucks!!! Hopefully next week will be faster, and dances will be selling like hotcakes.







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    Default Re: *rant* 5$ Ld, F U Tucson!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by london View Post
    Try TD's East...Dances on the floor are $10 and getting into VIP is $30, dances are 15-20/song there or you could charge by the hour. I danced there a few years ago, so prices may have changed, but their dances should still be at LEAST $10 and I dont remember their songs being very long.
    Last I heard they lowered their $7 table dances to $5. But thats just word of mouth...maybe they were having a special that night or something. Anyways, I used to work there and it sucked. At least day shift did, I don't know about night. I changed clubs around Jan/Feb this year. But maybe your hustle will work with the club? Might be worth checking out.

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    You went to The CS didn't you? Dances cost more at almost any other club, try TD's East or Curves.

    I was always flabbergasted at how much was given away for the $5 floor dances. I gave good dances, but not nearly as much as they were giving. And not every girl in VIp gets freaky/nasty. Just remember: that's how guys get extras.....

    "But OTHER girls do _____!"

    BS. Tell them to go find that girl then.

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    Default Re: *rant* 5$ Ld, F U Tucson!!!

    snow white,

    I worked there (TD'sEast) maybe 3 or 4 years ago on their night shift as a travelling dancer. I was very new to the stripping business at that time and was happy that it was so darn easy to make 3-400/night but I saw a handful of dancers counting out their money at the end which was closer to 800. I sure hope they didn't lower their dance prices permanently. It was such a cool club to me back then and I'd definitely go back out there if dances havent gone down to $5! Eep!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BohemianSiren View Post

    Oh my GOD^
    That is the perfect typical CS patron. I have never encountered so many nasty sickos in my life as I have working at that place.

    P.S., not only can you thank guys like that, but you can thank the girls that work there and give away their pussy and dignity for $10 a song.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NekkoStarz View Post


    My first dance I sold VIP, but the guy only bought one


    Happens all the time. That's their way of "testing" you. They'll do it all night with many girls until they find the one that will suck on their nasty little wanker.

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    Default Re: *rant* 5$ Ld, F U Tucson!!!

    No one deserves to see tits for $5 let alone pussy.
    I dont even like doing $20 dances at my work. I think it should be $50 minimum to look at a hot woman naked.
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    Default Re: *rant* 5$ Ld, F U Tucson!!!

    Damn. You'd have to do 100 dances to have a good night. That's insane.

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    Yeah, thus the reason I got burnt out there AG

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    Traditionally the clubs in the Southwest (Arizona,New Mexico, and El Paso) were all $5 table dance clubs, and a strictly "wanna dance" culture. A handful of clubs in those markets had $10 floor dances, and marketed themselves as more upscale.

    Then several years ago, dances in most clubs went up to $10 on the floor, and some clubs added VIP rooms with $20 dances.

    The clubs there had high foot traffic, and girls constantly circled around asking for dances. EVERY guy was asked for dances every song, and guys would buy several dances from multiple girls. Along with modest stage tips, girls could work 5 hours or so and walk with $150-$300+ fairly easily if they stayed on the floor and approached everyone. It was about steady money, not sitting around and smoozing with the guys.

    Now the clubs don't have as much foot traffic, and quite frankly girls have gotten lazy and stopped going from guy to guy, causing customers to not feel obligated to buy dances like they did when the clubs had momentum.

    Tucson for some reason was afraid to raise the dance prices as much as Phoenix, and when they did raise prices, the clubs went up to $7 a song.

    Curves has the most consistent volume there, but I think since VIP rooms were added in most clubs, the bread and butter robotic dance sales were sacrificed for getting VIP money. When guys are not approached constantly by every dancer, and the DJ stops pushing the crowd, eventually guys become complacent about spending.

    Without constant customer flow, and every girl constantly approaching every guy, with the DJ's help, along with increased cover charges (including charging cover on day shifts), raising nighttime cover charges, and raising drink prices substantially, the amount of customers needed to make steady money off of low priced dances has dropped.

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    Default Re: *rant* 5$ Ld, F U Tucson!!!

    That totally sucks, I would never work at a club with dances at that price. It's just like free entrance and happy hour, all the cheapskate time-wasters and nonspending peeping toms love to camp out all night.

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    yuck....that sucks. We have nights like that at our club. We have $5 dances on the floor, but at least VIP is more expensive. I hope things end up working for you.

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    Ok guys, let's disagree in a civil manner.

    From a dancers perspective, and from one who is familiar with the AZ scene, $1000 shifts don't exist in Tucson, except for the rare occasion that a customer gives his regular girl some cash on the side. Some girls have regulars who help the bottom line, but regulars DO NOT come in the club every day.

    In fact, in most clubs it is extremely rare nowadays to see that kind of money unless the dancer is working in an upper tier club and has runs into the "right" customer(s) who are above average spenders.

    Many clubs have a lot less volume than in years past, and in many clubs only a handful of dancers really make a profit at all. LOT'S of girls nowadays are going home after tip outs with under $100.

    Sexhobbyist, keep in mind that MANY dancers exaggerate their earnings. Sit and watch how many dances your girlfriend does during a shift, and subtract her house fee and tip outs and I bet she is earning faaaaaar less that what you have posted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tina View Post

    -From a dancers perspective, and from one who is familiar with the AZ scene, $1000 shifts don't exist in Tucson, except for the rare occasion that a customer gives his regular girl some cash on the side



    -MANY dancers exaggerate their earnings
    True, and again, true.

    The only time I have known of a girl having a $1000 shift in Tucson was when I worked at Curves, and the girl pulled an open to close shift (14 hours) not to mention hustled her ass off.
    The most I ever made at Curves was $700 after tipout, I worked a long shift as well, and, like you mentioned above, a couple hundred of that was from a regular. Well, he was sorta a regular, not full on, but still. A regular is a regular. The guy made alot of money and always payed/tipped me more than he owed.

    I will never understand why girls exaggerate their earnings and brag about it in the DR.
    Just the other week there was a girl (non-extras giving) who claims to make 500-600 a day. I just don't see how it's possible at our place right now.
    I know she does good but there's no way that much.....I dunno.
    And if it is true, I wish she would keep it to herself. I think it's rude to be bragging about making an unusual, and almost impossible for most of us, amount of money. Especially when 95% of us are working long shifts, hustling, and basically busting our asses to walk out with $100.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CherryBomb954 View Post

    The only time I have known of a girl having a $1000 shift in Tucson was when I worked at Curves, and the girl pulled an open to close shift (14 hours) not to mention hustled her ass off.


    hahahaha yeah no

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    Default Re: *rant* 5$ Ld, F U Tucson!!!

    Is it possible for you to travel ? Tucson doesn't sound good to dance in. Phoenix ? Apparently the market is down there a bit too but it might be a little better.

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    Oh god, Phoenix? There's WAY too many girls there right now- not even worth the gas money to go up there.

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    Default Re: *rant* 5$ Ld, F U Tucson!!!

    i work in a 5 dollar table dance club i dont dance for less then 10. period. ive been there 3 years off and on...

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    Oh, I was in Tucson. It sucked.

    I went to that club that's shaped like a boat? It's supposed to be divey, but they have $20 CR dances, and I just tried to do those all night. In reality, I would do a bunch of $7 floor dances, and have one or two or three guys a night that I made a hundred bucks or so on in $20 dances. I think I was making $2-400/night, with one or two really shitty nights.

    The positive is that there's pretty much no drama in arizona and you can show up whenever you want and management is pretty professional compared to the rest of the country.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Apollopink View Post
    hahahaha yeah no


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lena View Post
    Oh, I was in Tucson. It sucked.

    I went to that club that's shaped like a boat? It's supposed to be divey, but they have $20 CR dances, and I just tried to do those all night. In reality, I would do a bunch of $7 floor dances, and have one or two or three guys a night that I made a hundred bucks or so on in $20 dances. I think I was making $2-400/night, with one or two really shitty nights.

    The positive is that there's pretty much no drama in arizona and you can show up whenever you want and management is pretty professional compared to the rest of the country.

    Yep, boat-shaped. That's the reef. When were you there, Lena?
    Things have changed a bit....floor dances are still $7 but they knocked the VIP prices down to $15.
    It's so scary there now, IMO. Management is hella shady too.
    It does seem that management in AZ is a little more professional, based on some of the horror stories I have heard here on SW from girls around the country.
    As far as no drama....not sure about that. Everywhere has drama, just different kinds

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lena View Post
    Oh, I was in Tucson. It sucked.

    I went to that club that's shaped like a boat? It's supposed to be divey, but they have $20 CR dances, and I just tried to do those all night. In reality, I would do a bunch of $7 floor dances, and have one or two or three guys a night that I made a hundred bucks or so on in $20 dances. I think I was making $2-400/night, with one or two really shitty nights.

    The positive is that there's pretty much no drama in arizona and you can show up whenever you want and management is pretty professional compared to the rest of the country.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lena View Post
    The positive is that there's pretty much no drama in arizona and you can show up whenever you want and management is pretty professional compared to the rest of the country.
    That's what made the $5 hustle worth it. Everyone else in the country can't imagine doing $5 dances and I can't imagine having to schedule a regular 8 hour shift!



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