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    so...I :heart: techno. Almost any and all techno, the harder the better. I like to dance to music that will turn the club into a rave for ten minutes.

    I'm not a huge bitch to work with though...if there's a good reason why I occasionally need to dance to something else (like if 90% of the girls working are techno girls and the DJ wants to mix it up), then I'll be a good sport and do it without complaining.

    All I ask is that if you're going to make me go outside my genre, then just give me a heads-up and ask me what kind of other stuff I wouldn't mind dancing to. I can rattle off a bunch of rock/R&B/other songs that I don't hate, and you can pick two of them, and everyone's happy.

    Instead, the DJ last night let the waitresses pick my music.

    He knows the deal--that I'm a techno girl, but that in a pinch I'll willingly dance to rock, R&B, Latin...ANYTHING BUT POP. I hate, hate, HATE pop music (if you can even call that shit "music".) And he knows this. I'm also a generous tipper, and he knows this too.

    But for some reason he let the waitresses pick out the most horrible crap for my sets...Avril Lavigne, Gwen Stefani, Britney Spears, the Pussycat Dolls...I was dying up there. I felt SO stupid. Then afterward he was laughing about it and said "well, they really wanted to hear it".

    WTF? I don't give a damn what the waitresses want to hear. If they want to listen to stupid pop crap, they can switch to being dancers and play it for their own sets. Or listen to it in their cars on the way home. The waitresses don't tip you, I do. So how about asking ME what I want to dance to instead? Have a spine and tell them no!

    DJ's: is it just me, or is that rude as hell? Would you ever let a waitress pick out dancers' stage sets? (I wasn't the only one who got waitress requests played for them. ) And on top of that, letting them pick out the one genre that I hate, knowing that I hate it and playing it anyway? There are a zillion acceptable things he could have played for me. I don't like dancing to anything but techno, but if he played me rock or R&B or whatever, I'd suck it up, dance to it without complaining, and act like I'm enjoying it. I'm one of the better tippers, and one of the least demanding. I'm willing to work with the DJs as far as getting a good mix of music going, and the ONE request I have is no pop. Is that really too much to ask?

    Sorry, but I gave him the infamous minimum last night.

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    we do 3 song sets. most of the time, my dj lets me do 2 instead. occasionally he says if i'm only dancing 2 songs i get to dance to what he wants. i am NOT a RAP girl. not at ALL. i swear he picks out the most ghetto songs on purpose to piss me off when he's in a mood like that.

    i'm not picky, i can do pop, techno, even poppy hip hop type stuff. but i prefer rock.

    they suck.

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    I have bouncers and waitresses ask me for songs all the time. IF they can get a girl to dance to it, which I verify with the girl, fine. The only time I don't ask is when it's a girl I know literally does not care what gets played for her. I have a couple of those, which is nice in a pinch. Just to randomly start playing waitress requests is idiotic on every angle...you're pissed, he makes no money, etc. Sounds like a real douchetard to me.
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    What an asshole. Not only an asshole, but a really stupid asshole, for doing this to a high-tipping dancer who will help him out if he needs someone, will dance outside her genre if necessary, etc.

    Britt's DJ sounds like a douchebag as well. Makes me want to smack them in the face, I swear.

    Especially when they play cheesy pop and fucked-up hardcore rap songs, there's more than enough of that shit being played as it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Djoser View Post
    What an asshole. Not only an asshole, but a really stupid asshole, for doing this to a high-tipping dancer who will help him out if he needs someone, will dance outside her genre if necessary, etc.

    Britt's DJ sounds like a douchebag as well. Makes me want to smack them in the face, I swear.

    Especially when they play cheesy pop and fucked-up hardcore rap songs, there's more than enough of that shit being played as it is.
    I so need to take a working vacation in Key West I know you'd give me all the amazing techno I could handle and then some!

    Edited to add: actually I thought of you last night, Djoser...I had to dance to your all-time favorite song ("smack that") twice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by made_of_sequins View Post
    I had to dance to your all-time favorite song ("smack that") twice.
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    Makes me want to smack them...

    Actually, there's worse songs out there--but not many, lol. Yeah, you should come down here for some good techno...
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrChristopher View Post
    The only time I don't ask is when it's a girl I know literally does not care what gets played for her. I have a couple of those, which is nice in a pinch. .
    yeah, this is pretty much me. glad you think its good!

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    Quote Originally Posted by made_of_sequins View Post
    DJ's: is it just me, or is that rude as hell? Would you ever let a waitress pick out dancers' stage sets? (I wasn't the only one who got waitress requests played for them. ) And on top of that, letting them pick out the one genre that I hate, knowing that I hate it and playing it anyway? There are a zillion acceptable things he could have played for me. I don't like dancing to anything but techno, but if he played me rock or R&B or whatever, I'd suck it up, dance to it without complaining, and act like I'm enjoying it. I'm one of the better tippers, and one of the least demanding. I'm willing to work with the DJs as far as getting a good mix of music going, and the ONE request I have is no pop. Is that really too much to ask?

    Sorry, but I gave him the infamous minimum last night.
    It is rude and not a very smart thing to do to a tipping dancer. You were very nice and appreciative during our last "encounter"(I hope that suggestion works for ya )....I personally would never dream of messin' with a dancer that has done nothing wrong. It should not be a problem to take requests from dancers (unless club or mngmt. "policies" interfere) as long as they "appreciate" it. The only thing I know to tell you is to speak directly and honestly with said Dj about your issue. Alot of dancers "screw" us on our tips regardless of how bad or good we are....hence this action does not always have the desired effect the dancer wants. Talk to him...if this doesn't work then there are "escalating" measures to deal with said button pusher .

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    Oh wow...that DJ would have inspired my wrath. There is no faster route to make me want to put a knife to your throat than somebody playing me Avril Lavigne! I remember when one of our two noobs, Ghosh started, I told him that I was good for emo, glam rock/hair metal, glitch (to which he said, "Oh, you're Steve's girl then" thus I gave him a giant "egh?" look in return) and electronic to a certain extent. Right off the bat first song-first set he played me Avril Lavigne. I got off stage, informed him of my anti-Avril rule, and he has never made the mistake again...because he is a generally good DJ (even if he's a little helpless if it isn't trance, lol) and for the most part, an egotistical fuck with some level of skill to back it up.

    I like good DJs, they make me happy. Bad DJs turn me into a raving psychobitch threatening to shove my shoe up their ass, pointy bit first.

    Over time it's become hard to piss me off with music. When I started, I was completely locked into emo, no compromise. Last sunday I actually did the entire day (that I remember...I may require confirmation on this one) of nothing but electronic sets. I also discovered that roughly 75% or EDM lyrics are about drugs, lol. God, that was such a fun day, lol!
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmArticia View Post
    Last sunday I actually did the entire day (that I remember...I may require confirmation on this one) of nothing but electronic sets. I also discovered that roughly 75% or EDM lyrics are about drugs, lol. God, that was such a fun day, lol!
    i just HAVE a lot of edm songs about drugs and yes you were little miss tranceypants and you were loving it

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    Quote Originally Posted by DJ Steve View Post
    and yes you were little miss tranceypants and you were loving it
    You were giving me light shows on stage every other set...no shit I was loving every fucking minute of it! The first time you suprised me with it, I sorta freaked out, but that light show to Stiff Kittens was one of the most glorious moments of my life...and somewhere Davey Havok was very disappointed in the complete misuse of his music.

    The irony would have been greater though if you had "On A Friday" on your computer.

    And is there any chance that I can officially change my stage name to "Little Miss Tranceypants?" It would be smashing if you let me do that! Or perhaps I should take up the mantle of "Ravin'?" Next time I come in still fucked up and you have to put up with me being continually flopped over you like a retarded toddler...

    EDIT: Actually...that gave me an idea...
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmArticia View Post

    And is there any chance that I can officially change my stage name to "Little Miss Tranceypants?" It would be smashing if you let me do that! Or perhaps I should take up the mantle of "Ravin'?" Next time I come in still fucked up and you have to put up with me being continually flopped over you like a retarded toddler...

    EDIT: Actually...that gave me an idea...
    ahahaha I SO want to work with the two of you! (actually I've toyed with the idea of moving to Denver for awhile, but that's a few years off still b/c of school. It just sounds like a quirky artsy city where I'd fit in well. )

    And...Tauries...omg YES your Delta V suggestion was mind-blowingly good. Thank you! (Love the monkey avatar too. )

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    ahahaha I SO want to work with the two of you! (actually I've toyed with the idea of moving to Denver for awhile, but that's a few years off still b/c of school. It just sounds like a quirky artsy city where I'd fit in well. )
    Denver is an artsy city?! That's news to me! Well...kinda I guess, but it's not like we're Portland or San Francisco.

    I'm also greatly underqualified to say wether Denver is a good city to work in or not cause I've only danced at LaBo, the other clubs are sorta like another planet to me. But yea, some days are made of win at the club. Last sunday found Steve, the door girl, and yours truly all crammed around a cocktail table downing french toast, sausage, and other assorted breakfast goodness at like 1:30 in the afternoon. Take away the neon lights, stages, and Mickey Avalon soundtrack while putting me into some real clothing and the scene could have passed for downright wholesome!

    Edit: Oh yeah, and you have to put up with three additional DJs of varying skill levels and styles while you're at it.
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    any good DJ should know that's NOT ok. i guess i'm lucky because at my home club we pick our songs before each set...sometimes if a bouncer or waitress wants to hear a specific song, they will ask us and usually tip. i've gotten up to $30 for playing a song a bouncer wanted to hear...and it was by one of my fav artists, so i didn't mind anyway....at my other club, my DJ KNOWS what i like...not just the genre, but specific songs and artists....i almost never have a problem. other girls complain about what he plays for them, but they also leave the club without tipping him 90% of the time....i always tip...therefore i always get good music.

    but i feel your pain. im the opposite of you....i'm ok with almost everything EXCEPT techno...i just cant ever seem to get on a beat lol...

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    Holy crap, you get to pick every single one of your sets?! I'm good with music, but my brain would very quickly fry if I had to do that. Well, maybe if it was my computer so I knew what all I had to pick from...

    Still though, for the most part, I let the DJ boys do their job. It seems to work out best cause they know what works for me and what works for the crowd so they can hit the sweet spot between the two.
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    This is an easy one...
    If a waitress/bouncer even manager wants to hear a certain song..."Ask one of the girls to tell me to play it for you" that is also what i say to custies that come up too and request songs (99% of the time with no cash in hand)...

    Im a mercenary, just like the girls wont do anything for free, neither will I. Therefore the waitresses/bouncers and managers do not tip DJ's the dancers do so I would be very very careful about upsetting one. The only time i will upset one is if it goes against the club policy, I wont risk my job over one or two girls.

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    well at all the clubs i have worked at, i have gotten requests from the support staff. waitresses, bartenders, managers and the like, no one ever really requests anything super shitty, and i usually have a girl that can easily deal with the song requested.

    when everyone is happy, everyone makes money.

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    Whenever an employee tells me what song they want to hear, my first response is "how much are you tipping her?" When they say "nothing," I tell them that's about how much chance they have of hearing their song. I've always ran it by the dancer, because I'm quite sure the hard rock girl in the lineup would strip me of my spine and feed my brains to the pigeons outside if I played her "Lollipop" because the 34 year-old waitress (who thinks she's 16) would like to hear it.

    And I like my spine where it is.

    EDIT: Not making fun of 34 year-olds. Just 34 year-olds who think they aren't.
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    Amen to Djoser, Captain Rob, and Scotty Pogo! You don't piss off your entertainers - if the staff wants to hear a song that bad, tell them to take a smoke break with their iPod! A few of our entertainers will play a song for the bartender or waitress if it's in their normal style, but otherwise it's a break song or doesn't get played. I'm in the booth to play the music for the entertainers, not the staff.
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    What the fuck? I've seriously never had a DJ give a SHIT what I like to dance to--in 10 years of dancing! Until recently...A new DJ at my club started noticing who was making money and who wasn't, and, I guess wanting to improve his income, asked me what I prefer to hear. One of the things I said was "80s". Now I dance to "Come on Eileen" once a shift.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dottie Rebel View Post
    What the fuck? I've seriously never had a DJ give a SHIT what I like to dance to--in 10 years of dancing! Until recently...A new DJ at my club started noticing who was making money and who wasn't, and, I guess wanting to improve his income, asked me what I prefer to hear. One of the things I said was "80s". Now I dance to "Come on Eileen" once a shift.
    This is so wrong on so many levels...

    Now I need a drink.

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    Hahaha...this is why I learned to shut the fuck up and let the DJs do their job. I get extremely bored if I tell them what to play for me. I swear to god if I have to dance to Gym Class Heroes again I'm gonna slit my wrists and it's totally my fault for being the emo girl.

    Generally the boys are far better at gauging what I work best with in comparison to what the crowd wants. Each DJ has there special little tricks that seem to work (I can kick ass when there's a crowd with a little old school MCR, but in a slow-to medium house Lebanese Blonde by Thievery Corp. is my darling.) and I just let them do what they do best.
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    Yeah I think Gym Class Heroes is alright, as pop rock goes (which actually isn't saying much, lol), but I've never been all that compelled to play them in or out of the club.

    Thievery Corp is excellent stuff. Unfortunately, working thurs/fri/sat in a busy club, I have to watch which and when with them.
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    Urgh...Gym Class Heroes brings "pointless and insipid" to a whole new level. They're like that one group of weakling geeky emos you get at every highschool, only they went to Ghetto High, y'know? As always, blame it on Fall Out Boy or Jay-Z.

    Thievery Corp has some sort of magic though, I swear to god. Any time I hear those opening bars, I know I am soon going to be seeing green. I'm niether Lebanese nor blonde, but holy crap does it work. I kinda just channel Garden State and go with it.

    Ghosh gave me a GREAT set on saturday of "In The Waiting Line" by Zero 7, Lebanese Blonde, and the Tiesto re-work of Hide and Seek by Imogen Heap and I was practically singing the Halleluja Chorus by the end of it!
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    I've never worked anywhere but places where the dancer picks the music. We'll sometimes ask the dj to pick for us depending on the situation but its our choice! That said, I did have one dj who gave me problems, refusing to play silent lucidity till I could tell him what it meant, playing my songs wayyyyy long, refusing to play a song if he didn't feel like hearing it,etc., and after having the manager(who i'd worked with at another club) talk to him (especially about my tipping policy) he apologized and worked well with me after that.

    But I do have one DJ I have followed from club to club (except he's working at an alcohol club now and I'm an AAer but we still hang out when we can) who was soooo awesome I never picked out my music if he was working- I would just go up and let him check out my outfit, the look on my face, and the crowd, and he would pick something that hit it spot on every time! Pee-tah,I love u!
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