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    Default Got advice last night about why my hustle sucks!

    I was talking with some of the girls at my club last night, trying to figure out why I struggle to make more than $100 per night. Well, three of them told me that I spend way too much time with customers. I was told that if I spend more than one song with a guy and he doesn't buy a dance, I'm wasting my time. I am going to heed that advice starting tonight. My goal tonight is $400, I decided to keep it moderate. Tomorrow night, my goal is $600. I am going to ask these questions, "what's your name?", "where ya from?" then "would you like a private dance?" OR "Are you having a good time tonight?", "You'd have an even better time with me in the private dance room." I have to work on taking charge of the sale and not letting the guy run the show. But it's a learning process. I'm going to keep studying hustle hut and heed the advice of the vets at my club. I'll update and let you all know how I do this weekend.
    "I Can Sell Raid To A Bug. i'm A Hustler I Can Sell Salt To A Slug" -Cassidy

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    Default Re: Got advice last night about why my hustle sucks!

    I also find a quick line of humour, even something cheesy is good. The standard questions can work but something more unique usually works.

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    Default Re: Got advice last night about why my hustle sucks!

    I agree with those girls. I never sit for free longer than 1 song.

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    Default Re: Got advice last night about why my hustle sucks!

    Always keep in control of the situation. If the guy is a douschebag "Sorry I don't GET lapdances" just walk away, don't spend time trying to convince him. Other people will spend money. If he tries to divert the conversation, be persistent. Too many times a guy will try to change the subject when you ask for a dance (some idiotic tactic to try and make you sit longer for free), but just repeat the question, eventually he will have to answer it.

    I have a 10 second rule when its busy, when its slow I do what austinatalie does, less than one song.

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    Default Re: Got advice last night about why my hustle sucks!

    do the second one....

    imagine you went to a store and someone said, "what's your name, where are you from, ready to buy?"

    it just doesn't flow...

    but then the 2nd approach allows him to say "yes" a couple of times and get fun in his mind.

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    Default Re: Got advice last night about why my hustle sucks!

    ^^yep.
    have the guy say yes to a couple things, make him laugh, then ask.
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    Default Re: Got advice last night about why my hustle sucks!

    My "repetitive yes" hustle:

    I try to just ask questions I think most guys will answer "yes" to.

    "Having a good time"...

    A couple of football questions...

    The beach, deep sea fishing, my legs, my ass dimples.... yes, yes, yes, yes...

    "Do you want to..." ...yes.

    If I've played it right, even the guys who know it's an old Bugs Bunny trick still say "yes".

    "Oooo, let's go."
    Last edited by MickieM; 05-24-2008 at 09:46 PM.

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    Default Re: Got advice last night about why my hustle sucks!

    Quote Originally Posted by austinatalie View Post
    I agree with those girls. I never sit for free longer than 1 song.
    Just out of curiosity, do you have a rule in your club that says no more than 3 songs? Were you able to close in less than one song when you started (say, your first 4 mos. of stripping)?

    It's fairly unusual for me to make a sale in less than one song, though it happens. Only one dance for me tonight was less than one song.
    "Don't piss off a motivated stripper."


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    Default Re: Got advice last night about why my hustle sucks!

    I'll sit for two or three songs, no longer. One song is definitely my limit for weekend nights.

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    Here's my hustle. Maybe you can use some of it to give you ideas. ( I think I've posted it before, but can't find it, so sorry if it's a repost)


    Hello, I’m ____, you wouldn’t mind some company, would you?
    Where are you from?
    “ Really? I’ve always wanted to visit it there, it’s a beautiful city, isn’t it? (make a connection. Build rapport.)
    (the following are questions to get him into a "yes" pattern)

    Have you been to this club before?
    It’s beautiful, isn’t it?
    Your having fun tonight, aren’t you?
    So tell me, what brings you in here tonight? ( This question is feeling out his potential.)
    Have you had any dances so far tonight?
    You have?
    Awesome! You all warmed up for me then!
    Since you’ve already had some dances, you know how things work, don’t you?
    Would you like your dance here, or in VIP? (assuming the sale. Not asking yes or no question, ratherm giving him an option of 2 desirable outcomes)

    Or--
    You haven’t? That’s great! I can break you in the right way then!
    Since you haven’t had any dances yet, let me explain how things work. You can get a $20 dance out on the main floor, or we can go into the private room for a more intimate dance, which would you prefer?



    This hustle takes 1 song. I spend the second song handling objections if there are any. I am dancing by the third song, or I'm out.

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    Default Re: Got advice last night about why my hustle sucks!

    i generally sit 2 songs before going in for the kill.

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    You're there to sell dances... not make them like you. When I figured that out, I moved around the room a LOT faster and made a lot more money. You've gotten great advice here, but that was the bottom line for me when i was learning. Close the sale. Move. Get rejected sooner than later. Move. Close the sale. Dance. Move. Dance. Move. The momentum will make you money!!
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    Default Re: Got advice last night about why my hustle sucks!

    Is your club a busy club? I find that I need a different hustle depending on how busy it is. I'll sit with them for 1-2 songs if it's slow but on busy nights I dont even sit down.
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    when regulars turn cheap, it's time to kill em off.
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    Some of the most effortlessly beautiful, kind, intelligent, successful, motivated, driven and ridiculously hilarious women that I have ever met have been dancers. I've met the best friends that I've ever had in this industry.

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    OK, I'm going out and buying a webcam and making a video for the quick hustler!!!!!!!!!!!!! stay tuned!
    Last edited by cutey5032; 05-29-2008 at 03:42 PM. Reason: forgot something

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    Quote Originally Posted by cutey5032 View Post
    OK, I'm going out and buying a webcam and making a video for the quick hustler!!!!!!!!!!!!! stay tuned!
    Awwwwwwwww shit!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peanut_Butter View Post
    Here's my hustle. Maybe you can use some of it to give you ideas. ( I think I've posted it before, but can't find it, so sorry if it's a repost)


    Hello, I’m ____, you wouldn’t mind some company, would you?
    Where are you from?
    “ Really? I’ve always wanted to visit it there, it’s a beautiful city, isn’t it? (make a connection. Build rapport.)
    (the following are questions to get him into a "yes" pattern)

    Have you been to this club before?
    It’s beautiful, isn’t it?
    Your having fun tonight, aren’t you?
    So tell me, what brings you in here tonight? ( This question is feeling out his potential.)
    Have you had any dances so far tonight?
    You have?
    Awesome! You all warmed up for me then!
    Since you’ve already had some dances, you know how things work, don’t you?
    Would you like your dance here, or in VIP? (assuming the sale. Not asking yes or no question, ratherm giving him an option of 2 desirable outcomes)

    Or--
    You haven’t? That’s great! I can break you in the right way then!
    Since you haven’t had any dances yet, let me explain how things work. You can get a $20 dance out on the main floor, or we can go into the private room for a more intimate dance, which would you prefer?



    This hustle takes 1 song. I spend the second song handling objections if there are any. I am dancing by the third song, or I'm out.
    Thats basically exactly what I do but in a little different order. I cut to the chase qiuker by asking him what brings him to the club first they always stumble on it so I say "for some entertainment right!" while wiggling/ sticking out my ass when he says yes i sit down and do what is above.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CuriousSeeker View Post
    Just out of curiosity, do you have a rule in your club that says no more than 3 songs? Were you able to close in less than one song when you started (say, your first 4 mos. of stripping)?

    It's fairly unusual for me to make a sale in less than one song, though it happens. Only one dance for me tonight was less than one song.
    I'm from the same city as AustinNat different club, but yes I was able to close right away my first night because of HH. I close with in 30 seconds, sit out the rest of the song talking and then dance.

    Of coarse not every club is the same but if the girls at the OP's club are closing in one song, she should too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cutey5032 View Post
    OK, I'm going out and buying a webcam and making a video for the quick hustler!!!!!!!!!!!!! stay tuned!
    Uh oh. Magic time!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joplin View Post
    Of coarse not every club is the same but if the girls at the OP's club are closing in one song, she should too.
    Agreed.

    I'm still learning to make calls for slow vs. long hustle and to improve spotting the time wasters.
    "Don't piss off a motivated stripper."


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    Quote Originally Posted by paintgoddess View Post
    You're there to sell dances... not make them like you. When I figured that out, I moved around the room a LOT faster and made a lot more money. You've gotten great advice here, but that was the bottom line for me when i was learning. Close the sale. Move. Get rejected sooner than later. Move. Close the sale. Dance. Move. Dance. Move. The momentum will make you money!!
    Best advice ever. I need to print this out and stick it in my little work purse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoseLeigh View Post
    Uh oh. Magic time!

    for real!

    *looks forward to it*

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    Default Re: Got advice last night about why my hustle sucks!

    So, OP, how has your new hustle been working for you so far?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cutey5032 View Post
    OK, I'm going out and buying a webcam and making a video for the quick hustler!!!!!!!!!!!!! stay tuned!
    That's a great idea!


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    Default Re: Got advice last night about why my hustle sucks!

    I agree with the masses--sit for no longer than two songs before either popping the question or waiting for them to pop the question, and get all the non-buyers out of the way STAT! And once you get a guest to dance for, ask them after each dance if you should keep going. 90% of the time they will buy another. Stay confident and positive, too!

    Man, if only I could work up the motivation to take my own advice and do it consistently. I used to do fairly well for myself by following these rules--now I just treat my job like it's freakin' Cheers instead of a place to make money, and I loathe that I am such the lazy sloth. I need someone to spank some sense into me again, haha!

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    Default Re: Got advice last night about why my hustle sucks!

    Okay, I used this advice last saturday and made $300. Still disappointing compared to what other girls made, but better than I've been doing on my own. So thank you all for your advice! Tonight is ameture night so I'm hoping to double my saturday earnings and make $600 tonight.
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