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    When signing up for the site, the terms for new members are as follows (bolds by me):


    1. You must be at least 18 to post here. We are sorry, but for legal reasons, we cannot allow minors to post here - male or female.
    2. This site exists primarily for female exotic dancers. While we do welcome everyone and allow for non-stripping topics, please remember that this site is to help strippers network, share knowledge, and to give the public a more accurate view of what it means to be an exotic dancer. We don't want to know where to find the "hottest" escorts, hear how large and impressive your "cock" is, etc. Please remember you are speaking with ladies here. Treat them as such.
    3. Remember that there are all kinds of people using this forum with many different backgrounds and lives. We all know how easy in face-to-face communication it is to misunderstand one another. On the internet it is even easier. Please do your best to be polite and uninsulting. On the other side - please do your best to not be over-sensitive, you may be misunderstanding what the poster ment.
    4. Becareful what information you give out. We suggest that if you are a dancer that you use a nickname that is not the same as your stage name if you don't want to be recognized. Becareful with your email address and any other information you provide to others. Also if you choose to ever meet anyone, be careful.
    5. DO NOT TYPE IN ALL CAPS! It looks like you are shouting and is considered rude...unless of course you are meaning to yell. Reguardless, use caps sparingly - they're more effective that way. 6. Don't adopt an "outcast" mentality. I know some like to take on this role, but please, you should be out of highschool by now. What may seem to be a clique, could in reality just be a group of people who have known each other for years and are familiar talking together. Don't be afraid. In time you'll get to know others. Occasionally it is possible that others will take a stance against your opinion and you will be in the minority. It is not personal, all of us have been in the minority at one time or another. Express youself and your ideas - don't be afraid, but also be polite - we do not want name calling matches. If you do happen to get excited by a post, remember to keep things in perspective. This is just a message board, you can walk away and ignore posts.
    7. Don't be a pain in the ass! Do not come here and try to piss our members, moderators, or administrators off. Do not call people names, do not threaten members, do not correct everyones grammer or spelling (believe it or not, not everyone speaks english the way you do), or otherwise try to anger people. Remember we do have the ability to lock you out of the site and will if you prove to be a problem. Please don't worry about being banned, only those purposely causing trouble will be banned.
    8. Do not send email or personal messages to our members to recruit or date them. You may post messages in our Market Place forum if your offer is fitting or reply to someone who has requested information - but do not send out 50 messages telling various dancers to join you in your home town for free lapdance lessons or to join your agency.
    9. Do not spam the boards. Do not post the same messages over and over in different forums. Please choose a forum for your message and post it once there. If you have a job offer or are selling something, please post in the Market Place. If you are posting a job offer, expect to provide verification of who you are and who you are hiring for.
    10. No bumps. If no one replys to your message, do not repost it over and over or keep replying to your own message if no one else has.
    11. If your message is removed, do not post complaining why it is gone or repost it. It was removed for a reason. If you want to know why, you may contact the moderator of that board or a forum administrator.
    12. Do not post illegal material or material that you do not own the copyright to.
    13. If you plan on trolling our site - don't think you're the first and that we don't have experience dealing with your type. 14. Have fun. I know after all these rules, it may seem restrictive, but have a good time - we all (well most anyways) love meeting new people. And don't forget, it's just a website. =)
    I bolded those parts because they are the only two sections in the first thing a new potential member would see that address what sorts of people may sign up on SW, and only one of them is a hard-and-fast decree: you must be over 18. The other is more of a mission statement, but even there it is explicitly stated that "we do welcome everyone." Everything else is a "how to post," not "who to be."

    There's a whole lot of talk, much of it oblique, some of it explicit, about who "belongs" and who is "ruining the board for everyone." I think that's inherent in any forum and probably any group of people everywhere. Old guard v. new kids on the block. Veterans v. baby strippers. Dancers v. customers.

    Who belongs on SW in your opinion? I posted this on another thread but it really wasn't applicable (at least explicitly) so I'll repost it here. Would you accept as a valid and contributing poster, based SOLELY on the following:

    Someone who signed up to get information on dancing but hasn't gotten the courage to get on stage yet?
    Someone who used to dance but has since left the business?
    Someone who dances part-time but focuses more on their day job, school or family?
    Someone who appreciates dancers and gives them money and pointers for making more money off of them?

    Does it matter if the person is respectful? Articulate? Worldly? Funny? Male? Female?

    I really want to know. I know where I stand and who is "in" in my book, but who's "out" in yours?


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    Who belongs on SW in your opinion? I posted this on another thread but it really wasn't applicable (at least explicitly) so I'll repost it here. Would you accept as a valid and contributing poster, based SOLELY on the following:

    Someone who signed up to get information on dancing but hasn't gotten the courage to get on stage yet?
    Someone who used to dance but has since left the business?
    Someone who dances part-time but focuses more on their day job, school or family?
    Someone who appreciates dancers and gives them money and pointers for making more money off of them?

    Does it matter if the person is respectful? Articulate? Worldly? Funny? Male? Female?
    IMHO, anyone that is a former, current or concidering dancer is welcome here. Because the former and current offer advice to the ones who are interested in dancing in the future.
    As for someone who appriciates dancers and gives them money and pointers..they belong soley on blue, IMO. There is a section in blue that dancers can ask custoemrs questions, if that dancer chooses to seek advice from a customer on money making tips.

    Yes, it matters if a person is respectful. Everyone should be able to disagree without throwing personal insults or name calling, even during heated arguments. ( People are more willing to listen if you can present your case in a fact based, unhostile manner)

    Does it matter if a person is articulate, worldy, funny or male? Well, except for the male part, no, it doesn't matter. A nice mix of everythign keeps thigns interesting. Not everyone is of the same intelligence level. Not everyone has a good funny bone. But male..yes it matters. As i said, they belong on blue. If a dancer needs a male opinion, she can go over to blue and get it. And we also have customer conversation on pink for the guys to ask us questions. Industry related? ( Dj's, bouncers) I still think should stay on blue, because this site isnt for industry related, it's for This site exists primarily for female exotic dancers. With the exception of Dj's in music mix. cause thats like, their home.

    Thats my personal opinion. But who the fuck am I to say who belongs on SW. I dont own the place, and only that person has the right.

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    ^Thank you for sharing your opinion, peebs.


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    Since I was a PT on and off stripper for only a year, I try to stay out of threads if I don't have enough information to help somebody. Hey, it wasn't my thing, so I retired rather quickly. I learn some small things I can pass on and butt out where I can't. Someday I might be interested in dancing for fun again, life permitting, which is one of the reasons I stick around.

    Lately however, all of what you speak of Sunday makes me wonder if I am welcome here. I even heard mention from another member that she considered some former dancers/current dancers 'wannabes' based on their length of time they danced? But then again, I would (sadly) leave if people around here wanted me to.

    I'd like to see what's said in here, and will be watching.

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    [quote=SundayMorning;1559777]
    Someone who signed up to get information on dancing but hasn't gotten the courage to get on stage yet?

    Yes

    Someone who used to dance but has since left the
    business?

    Yes

    Someone who dances part-time but focuses more on their day job, school or family?

    Yes

    Someone who appreciates dancers and gives them money and pointers for making more money off of them?

    Meh, I can do without a lot of them. Some are very helpful and have perspective about the site (JZ is a good example), but a lot have an over inflated sense of importance and/or their own opinion (Guys who reply constantly the club chat, for example).

    Does it matter if the person is respectful? Articulate? Worldly? Funny? Male? Female?

    Yes, It totally matters. I prefer respectful and articulate to 'funny', since a lot of 'funny' first time posters are more funny in their own minds. I prefer female because we do talk a lot about our bits and their probs. And men, unless they are dancers or long term industry folks just don't have the POV we do, divergent though they may be.
    As for the terms & conditions, there are about 164645284 mostly male posters who break those terms over and over. Especially 2,6, 7, 11 & 14. They also tend to tbe the ones who try to encourage fights, and complain about complimentary or so-called ass-kiss threads. They want to see us fight and pull hair to uphold thier ideas of who we are and what we're here for.

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    I think that just about anyone who is related to dancing in some way should be allowed.

    Hell, we have had some awesome non dancer girls on here.

    If you arent a dancer and you cause problems or are a troll I don't think you should be here.

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    I do understand the view. I've been on the site since its first week. If the policy is put in place that I should be in Blue and Blue only (although...Customer Conversation?), that's what I'd do, without resentment. I'm aware of the environment.

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    ^ Jay, there are certain male members who's input and advice is spot on and welcomed. But since there is no way to pick and choose which men are ok and which aren't, it's better to just say all men. Ya know? So I hope I didnt offend you, or any of the other male members who read this and are cool. I wish there was a way to only allow those choice few men in and keep all others out.

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    I hope I made it clear that I'm not offended. Sometimes when you clean the fridge, good food gets thrown out.

    I think it's a healthy discussion. With the survey, discussion with the mods, his own sensibilities, and this discussion, assuming it stays healthy, then Pryce has data to decide how best to develop the site.





    Edit: Am I killing the thread? I didn't want to kill the thread!
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    I agree with this thread.

    Me = who cares? It's a free site. As long as the person isn't being an asshole it's no skin off my nose. Despite the presence of customers, this place is still obviously predominantly stripper-oriented.

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    I think members should be industry related, that goes for SCJ too. Industry related is: current dancers, retired dancers, curious dancers, sex work related, entertainers and customers.

    There is some degree of camaraderie, that's fine and makes for a friendly place. However, if you are only here to share the wub or fish for compliments, and don't contribute anything relevant to the industry, this might not be the site for you. Dancer or not.

    I find a lot of relevance in customer perspectives. I don't mind male members on the pink as long as they are not trying to tell us how to do our job, sharing info in hustle hut about what they've heard from their dancer friends or constantly perving and ass kissing.
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    I have no problem with non-dancers being here. However, when those non-dancers are outposting dancers and posting in places that they absolutely should not be...they need to go.

    We don't need 40 gazillion threads on child killings...we don't need non-dancers trying to give opinions on what should or should not be done in a hustle. I personally think Customer Conversation should be removed. SCJ is for the customers and there is a section there for dancers to ask customer's opinions. I believe that the lines between what is ok for non-dancers to post in and what is not should be more clear and succinct and should also be adhered to (by mods).

    SW started off great, but has since become a site where I've seen many dancers leave because it's not a resource any longer. It's a social site. When I was in my prime dancing days, and I came to this current site, I would not have stayed because I was looking to improve my hustle, etc. Not looking for PL's who ass-kiss in every other post, non-dancers who give opinions on things they don't know about and pic whores who try to find some self-worth by posting tons of pictures of themselves.

    This site is for dancers first and foremost. The sooner everyone realizes that and respects that, the better this site would be, again.

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    ^^Thank you, VG. I am okay with the social aspects of the site, but only as it pertains to dancers. Some us have no dancer friends and a safe place to talk with other dancers is SO helpful. This should not be a pickup joint. I think CC should stay, but that should be where custies stay.

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    I will admit that I have seen an erosion of the Hustle Hut and Stripping General aspects of the board during the relatively short time I've been here. I do kinda wish this was more of a "power-stripper resource" again rather than a "hmm well we either are strippers or we like strippers so let's meet up and send gifts and make small talk and be friends lulz" site.

    Don't get me wrong though!! The social aspect is fun, but not at the expense of helping fledgling dancers, hustle tips, money issues etc.
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    From my perspective....its pretty simple, yes this board is for dancers, those working in it, etc etc etc.....also custies can post, but, this is the caveat; in areas that warrant it.

    I generally stick to the member's board, off-topic board, and once in a while pic post. maybe once in a great great while I will post somewhere else if I have something relevant to add.

    Should this be true for other, I cannot say, but from my "guy/custiess" opinion this is how I treat the site.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay Zeno View Post
    I think it's a healthy discussion. With the survey, discussion with the mods, his own sensibilities, and this discussion, assuming it stays healthy, then Pryce has data to decide how best to develop the site.
    Exactly.

    This is a case where it's not possible to have too many opinions -- even unpopular ones -- or the extremes of personal preference.
    Now, distilling something meaningful out of all of that and coming up with specific positive changes that can be implemented -- in a manner that will keep most people happy -- now that's where the challenge lies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSexKitten View Post
    I will admit that I have seen an erosion of the Hustle Hut and Stripping General aspects of the board during the relatively short time I've been here. I do kinda wish this was more of a "power-stripper resource" again rather than a "hmm well we either are strippers or we like strippers so let's meet up and send gifts and make small talk and be friends lulz" site.

    Don't get me wrong though!! The social aspect is fun, but not at the expense of helping fledgling dancers, hustle tips, money issues etc.
    We need to work on the power stripper end of that. Lets! It only took a few posts to get DD more friendly, so maybe a little revival of the HH is in order? And we haven't been so good to newbies. I think if we had to spend less time cleaning house it would be easier though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoseLeigh View Post
    We need to work on the power stripper end of that. Lets! It only took a few posts to get DD more friendly, so maybe a little revival of the HH is in order? And we haven't been so good to newbies. I think if we had to spend less time cleaning house it would be easier though.
    Agreed! I might make a Hustle Tips thread myself to get things rolling, actually. As a girl who was once a timid little wannabe I do find it silly that many of the chicks on here go out of their way to disparage "baby strippers" when they're on our side! It can't hurt to be nice and helpful, and the girls who were helpful to me at that time have my utmost gratitude.

    One baby step at a time then eh?

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    I think stripperweb should be primarily for dancers, wannabe dancers and ex dancers with acceptance to other industry related people - djs, managers etc.
    Although I have nothing against anyone here generally speaking, the site IMO has lost its original purpose and has just turned into a regular chat forum. As a dancer I wonder why on earth I still come here sometimes.

    Ideally SCJ would cater to everyone else/ the non-strippers. The place should have its own Lounge and Body Busniess, throw Customer Conversation in there as well and Members Boards etc then maybe everyone would be happy / happier.

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    lol at the guys posting.

    Feature costumes for sale!

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    I frankly think that pink should be restricted to dancers and industry only. The cool but non-dancers have nothing to contribute except fluff and therefore belong on the blue side. For some reason, they feel entitled to pink just because they're chicks....can't imagine why. If you're a customer, get your ass to blue. That's where you belong.

    Like, let's keep pink 100% industry and move the lounge and all the other fluff to the blue side. It makes sense and gets rid of the useless posters.
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    While I am not yet a dancer, and I am listed as 'Industry Related' I would agree with the above mentioned that first and for most it would have to be for people who have been, are and want to be dancers. I think that is common sense. Or at least should be on a place called StripperWeb. Since I'm not a dancer yet I don't have much of anything useful to say during stripping discussions so I just lurk and learn that part of the board mostly.

    Although to add on that I think this is the only active, non male infested (no offense fellas!), females in the adult industry MBs I have come across. It's managed well as well and that is always a plus. So I would understand if other 'Industry Related' persons were here who had no intentions on being strippers. So.. don't kick me out ok? I like it here!

    "If you don't have anything useful to say don't say anything at all."

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSexKitten View Post
    I will admit that I have seen an erosion of the Hustle Hut and Stripping General aspects of the board during the relatively short time I've been here. I do kinda wish this was more of a "power-stripper resource" again rather than a "hmm well we either are strippers or we like strippers so let's meet up and send gifts and make small talk and be friends lulz" site.

    Don't get me wrong though!! The social aspect is fun, but not at the expense of helping fledgling dancers, hustle tips, money issues etc.
    Spot on as usual TSK

    I joined around the same time you did, and yeah, HH seemed to move a lot faster just a year and a half ago. Maybe its because people like us who joined around that time aren't giving back as much by posting our own tips. I'm pretty sure that I've never contributed.

    As for the social aspect, yeah, it is fun. I like it. And like you said, I don't think it should be the focal point of the site.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VenusGoddess View Post
    However, when those non-dancers are outposting dancers and posting in places that they absolutely should not be...they need to go.

    We don't need 40 gazillion threads on child killings...we don't need non-dancers trying to give opinions on what should or should not be done in a hustle. I personally think Customer Conversation should be removed. This site is for dancers first and foremost. The sooner everyone realizes that and respects that, the better this site would be, again.
    I totally agree. I think u have alluded to the female non dancer (never been a dancer, never wants to be but aspires to creating a magical strip club where all the dancers are treated beautifully) who by far creates the most posts in the lounge of any member on SW. This has pissed me off for some time.
    The lounge is just full of bleeding hearts stories now

    IMO if u have never been or are not considering being a dancer then you really are just taking away from the purpose of this site.
    Im really tired of it.
    I dont mind customers in CC or even in the lounge (as long as they aren't posting thread after thread) .
    I don't mind industry males here either - dancers or DJ's. Can't say I'd really be interested in club owners being here tho LOL.
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