




there was certainly an implication that 'oil guys' and 'alternative energy guys' were spending tons of money and that therefore things were a-ok for tx dancers.
i'd love to be wrong. i'd love it if there was tons of money floating around for the girls due to such customers coming in all the time. as many tx and non-tx girls mentioning decreasing earnings, it would be nice to point them somewhere that money was relatively easy to come by. i am sad i can't point anyone towards nude clubs in houston right now since they passed a regulation banning nude clubs in houston, limiting those dancers to latex/bikini bottoms for the time being.
i just think things are getting more complicated than travel-dancing to specific states to maintain earnings levels.





I did in through 02 in San Francisco (which was hardest hit by the dot com crash)
I'm doing it now in 08 in Phoenix (which is VERY hard hit by the RE crash)
I use the Pareto Principle. 80% of your income comes from 20% of your customers.
Rebecca Avalon

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^^^I think she means keeping up w/regulars right?




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Gosh, I am pretty good on keeping up with regs. But lately, my most reliable one is having some $$ troubles himself, one had surgery (carpal tunal) and can't drive, and then there are the others that are doing Ok but they are smart enough to know about the recession and start demanding more 'activity' for the buck![]()
May has not been a horrible month, but my last two shifts were the worst ever at my current club![]()
(Formerly known as 'Korina')
Perhaps. MN is having huge issues with this, though. It's not just limited to MSP either. I'm planning on buying a house next year because it's a great time to be a FTHB, but an awful time to be a seller. My bf's parents house took almost a year to sell. The asking price wasn't ridiculous, it was updated, blah blah etc. It just sucks here.
And as for dancing, fuck. I can expect an average of 200/night for eight hour shifts. It's not awful, and it's better than any other job I can get before I finish my degrees, but Jeebus. I also don't have any regulars (I'm not good at stringing people along, and that seems to be what it takes here) so I'm boned on that front.
I'm thinking of checking out other clubs to see if I'll feel more comfortable in a different environment. My current club is nice in lots of ways, but the atmosphere is somehow...not a match for me. We'll see if money gets better now that it's summer. We get more students during summer break, and I make great money off of nerds young and old![]()
I'd also like to point out that rural locations can be very tough for black girls. At least, that's what I've observed in MN and WI. I've also heart tons of horror stories about racism in smaller rural towns. I'm talking in-your-face, no-filters racism. For dark-skinned girls (it doesn't seem to effect lighter skin) it's rough trying to work outside of metro areas.
My .02





Tina works in the upper-midwest. From what she's discussed (I looked forward to her posts) she does very well. I often read her speak down about girls from Milwaukee (sp) coming down and having "dates" with customer..so if those blk girls are coming down to work, then I'm sure there is no point in you workin up in WI. Do a search on some of Tina's posts..you'll learn alot and be inspired!
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seems like our last hope (the farmland of iowa) is underwater now.
Rebecca Avalon





I've been on monster.com and careerbuilder.com lately looking for employment. Hell at least then I can make a GUARANTEED weekly amount. With dancing, you just dont' know these days.
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My only input is this:
Shit talk it all you wanna but that's why I go to Guam twice a year. I know that especially in wartime, there will always be military/contract workers; some of whom are spending rediculous government salaries. Studying these guys' rates and ranks over time helps me sift through to find the bigger fish (find that good 20%). Sure, I work harder than most in three months (think pulling doubles for 78 days with maybe five off) but I come back with enough cash to wait out the rough patches here in the states. I can sock money away and these breaks are the only thing that keeps me from feeling burned out.
My sympathies to all who are really feeling the brunt of the down-turn. I just moved to SoCal and I don't feel very enthusiastic about the strip club scene at all here.![]()
"SS=stripper shit, in the same spectrum as CS=customer shit, which is within the spectrum of SaS=sales shit, which is all contained in the universe of BS=bullshit." -- Jay Zeno (mod)
"Show me a hot chick and I'll show you someone who's tired of fucking her."
Yeah. Of course, that might mean there will be a lot of construction going on in a few weeks/months, which could be good. I heard reports that New Orleans was actually great a few months after Katrina, when all the construction crews were there rebuilding the city.
Re: Texas. I really don't think it's that different from anywhere else. Why would it be? A few months ago I made several hundred dollars off a guy who was building oil field infrastructure. It was great. But that was ONE guy, MONTHS ago. Most people in Texas are neither oil speculators nor billionaire cattle-ranchers. Most guys who come to clubs are just regular old desk-jockeys trying to weather out the recession like anybody else. maybe things are different at the high-dollar clubs in Houston and Dallas where these fabled oil and cattle guys hang out, but I've worked at some of those clubs in the past, and there were no hundred dollar bills flying through the air.
I have noticed my Income has dropped about $400 bucks a week... or $100 a shift on average. As always, some nights are better/worse then others.
I think the problem lies in the fact the dollar just doesn't go as far. I am not making that much less then I used too, its just the money isn't going as far, so it feels like I am not making as much.
Mos' def. When I wanted to stop dancing, I moved to Guam for a 10 week contract, danced so intensely that I was pooped, and then just came back to Portland with enough money to sit around and figure out the right kind of 'straight' job I wanted. Now I have an office job and the same standard of living (better actually now that I have benefits, investments, retirement funds, etc). woo!




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Yeah, homegirl. Up top!
"SS=stripper shit, in the same spectrum as CS=customer shit, which is within the spectrum of SaS=sales shit, which is all contained in the universe of BS=bullshit." -- Jay Zeno (mod)
"Show me a hot chick and I'll show you someone who's tired of fucking her."




"SS=stripper shit, in the same spectrum as CS=customer shit, which is within the spectrum of SaS=sales shit, which is all contained in the universe of BS=bullshit." -- Jay Zeno (mod)
"Show me a hot chick and I'll show you someone who's tired of fucking her."
? I'm a bit confused.
I'm not black myself, I'm just pointing out what my black dancer friends have told me: that trying to make money in rural areas tends to suck. Their experiences (and mine) happen to be in the upper midwest. I've observed racist comments and attitudes first-hand, and it's been a lot more harsh and shockingly rabid in the more rural clubs.
I was mentioning that because rural clubs aren't an option for all dancers, and I think that's where a lot of the frustration is coming from: a lack of viable options.![]()
there really has been less and less girls dancing the past 6 months, everywhere has dancers wanted signs up. so basically all we have left are:
the girls who drink and sit around all night for free with customers
the girls that will do anything for a buck
the hustlers
even for myself hustling has gotten a lot harder. ive gotten ripped off on more table dances then normal. guys not wanting to pay what i charge even after i tell them how much i charge. the club wont back me becuase its not their rates so i get the shaft. but in the long run those 2 on a weekend night are really worth everyone else who pays in full what i charge.
^^That's interesting, that girls are actually quitting. Maybe girls are getting the word that stripping is not the glamorous easy money it used to be -- or used to be rumored to be, anyway. I kinda wish the herd would thin out here, too. My club (and this city in general, I think) always has slightly more dancers than the customer base will truly support.





Don't be confused. Whether you were black or not, I was simply responding to your thread that it is hard in the upper mid-west for black dancers. I was just letting you know that if you read some posts from Tina, you'll find out that it can be done. Even if you aren't black, you could've still passed the information off to one of your black friends who aren't doing as well as they'd like.
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