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    Tonight, I made an enemy... unintentionally:

    The DJ was all crazy and f-ing up who was supposed to be on stage at what time and on which stage. I was talking to a customer when I hear my name called to the side stage, so I scurry onto it, halfway through my song. I apologize to the girl for making her wait and she responds with one of the DIRTIEST looks I've ever seen. Then, she grabs her dress from the hook and turns with it positioned over her shoulder so that it hits me in the face! WTF!?!?! I don't know if it was purposeful or not, so... I don't break her nose... or at least complain to management.

    Later, on the main stage, I am 10 secs late cuz I was collecting $ for dances. She gave me the SAME look... so I took the dollar that was lying on stage after her set, opened the curtain to the concealed foyer that dancers enter and exit through to get from the stage to the floor and said, "You forgot this!" And tossed it at her, snobbishly. Ok, fine... THREW it at her.

    It felt great!!!!!!!

    Why would ANY human-being react so nastily over such a trite occurrence? EVERYBODY is late to stage at some point... I am content with an apology when the next girl is late and I happen to be the one waiting for her. I smile and respond, "It's ok."

    What is wrong with these girls and how is one to handle them?????
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    Bitches come with the territory I'm afraid. I usually ignore the behaivior, but if it gets bad enough I'll stand up for myself (not fight, just tell them the behavior is unacceptable). Though I do know one girl whose facial features make her look pissed when she's not, so you never know.
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    Hmm, so you were repeatedly late to stage after the same girl and you are surprised that she was annoyed? That's a big pet peeve of mine. Do it once, ok, anyone can be late once, but do it again and again and it is apparent that you aren't paying attention to the roster and don't have any respect for the girl you are following.

    When I have the misfortune of being in front of someone like that I talk to the DJ and have him switch HER so that I'm not inconvenienced all night. Or have management enforce the $10 late-to-stage fee. That's a fun one to collect.

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    That doesn't seem like a big deal to me for her to pissed about. I avoid drama, but she hit with her purse and did not apologize so it isn't out of line to chuck the dollar at her. I would just ignore and stay away from this girl in the future. Don't bother giving this girl an apology in the future and avoid looking at her if you end up after her in the stage rotation again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hot4ablackchick View Post
    That doesn't seem like a big deal to me for her to pissed about. I avoid drama, but she hit with her purse and did not apologize so it isn't out of line to chuck the dollar at her.
    No, her dress brushed against her. She didn't hit her with a purse. And, of course, there are two sides to every story. I'd love to hear what this other girl has to say about what happened. I can imagine.

    I swear, sometimes I feel like I'm reading a whole different thread that others responding to the same issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andygirl View Post
    Hmm, so you were repeatedly late to stage after the same girl and you are surprised that she was annoyed? That's a big pet peeve of mine. Do it once, ok, anyone can be late once, but do it again and again and it is apparent that you aren't paying attention to the roster and don't have any respect for the girl you are following.

    When I have the misfortune of being in front of someone like that I talk to the DJ and have him switch HER so that I'm not inconvenienced all night. Or have management enforce the $10 late-to-stage fee. That's a fun one to collect.
    This is not necessarily true. At my club if you are giving a dance, then you are going to be late for stage unless the DJ gives you some stall time to collect your money and get dressed. One of our DJs gives no stall time and you will be late for stage if you are giving a dance. Now if the girl is exceptionally late, taking way more time than necessary to collect her fee or not trying to hurry at all, then I could see being pissed. Or say the girl is just in the DR or smoking a cigarrette then yeah she obviously doesn't care. If a girls is making money then I can't see how you can hold it against her.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hot4ablackchick View Post
    If a girls is making money then I can't see how you can hold it against her.
    I make lots of money and do lots of dances, but I still make it to stage on time 99% of the time. Regardless of what you are doing you should still be mindful of where you are on the roster. I feel like if I can make it on time, so should everyone else. But there are always certain girls who are late every time they are called, and I get sick of waiting for their asses. I have business to conduct, and every second that I have to wait is a second that I could be making my money.

    There is no excuse for habitual lateness.

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    Andygirl,

    So I effed up I haven't slept jeez . She still hit her with her dress and did not apologize and her response to Julie's apology was just a DIRTY look. That screams bitchy to me. This was the girl's response the first time Julie was late to stage. I know that there are 2 sides to every story and maybe the 'bitchy dirty look' girl was having an off day. I can't over analyze every thread and can only offer my support/opinion on what the OP said.
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    No, it wasn't a "brush." It was a hit in the face. With her dress. Not her purse.

    Girls were late to stage all night...like I said... the DJ was acting crazy.

    Nothing I did constituted that behavior, Andygirl - which was my whole point in venting on this thread.
    It is also antagonistic of you to assume that I do not have "respect" for the girl whom I follow in rotation.
    So she was on stage an extra 30 seconds, BFD - I was on for 1/2 a song at one point - did I waste my time getting angry about it? No...

    Perhaps I just believe in kindness and understanding.
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    You said you were late by half a song the first time and then followed that by being late again. You can be as nice and understanding as you want to be, but you were disrespectful for being repeatedly late. Don't worry, I'm sure plenty of girls will be along to sympathize with you, but I feel worse for your co-worker who had to wait for you all night.

    Times like this are the only times I'll abandon the stage. I refuse to wait and wait for people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andygirl View Post
    I make lots of money and do lots of dances, but I still make it to stage on time 99% of the time. Regardless of what you are doing you should still be mindful of where you are on the roster. I feel like if I can make it on time, so should everyone else. But there are always certain girls who are late every time they are called, and I get sick of waiting for their asses. I have business to conduct, and every second that I have to wait is a second that I could be making my money.

    There is no excuse for habitual lateness.
    I totally see your point on this. I too, am hardly ever late for stage (even with our shitty no stall time giving DJ). I don't think you would like it if you were late one time (as you even admit to being late 1% of the time) and you got onstage as fast as you could and apologized and you just got a really dirty look and no response then 'hit' with a dress. Again this is the FIRST time the OP was late to stage. I just don't get the girls who go out of their way to be bitchy, we should all be working together somewhat and this does not strike me as unforgivable offense. The OP also said that the DJ was fucking up.
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    Right, but again, we are only getting one side of the story. Being late by half a song is a lot different than being late by 30 seconds. And a dirty look isn't the end of the world. If I was late like that, I'd expect the girl to be annoyed with me.

    And she said herself that she wasn't even sure the girl hit her with the dress intentionally. And really, how do you hit someone with a friggin' dress? Sounds like an accident to me.

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    ^^Um yeah but if the response to an apology was a dirty look then that = bitch like behavior to me. The OP didn't just walk onstage, and look over to see the other girl giving her a dirty look. Yeah its just a look and nobody said she should go burn the girls house down over it. I think the OP is just venting, telling her side of the story, (which I thought was why we were here, and if the response to every thread was, "There are two sides to every story," we couldn't believe crap a poster said and offer no advice/support) and why do we have to be soooo shitty with one another ITC. You can hit someone with anything, she didn't say it gave her a black eye. I've hit people with things unintentionally and would always apologize. Even if she didn't mean to actually hit her, you apologize if you hit someone with anything. If the DJ is fucking up then it is HIS FAULT that girls are late to stage anyway.
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    If you're 5 mins late to the stage at my club u get a $50 fine and have to pay it to the girl left waiting. It's a great incentive not to be late.
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    Jesus Christ, who the hell said anything about ALL NIGHT??

    Please, if you must respond so coldly, AG, at least get the story right.
    Did I not say that I, too, had to wait for girls a bunch of times last night? Ohhhhh, poor me! I could've made a million dollars during those precious seconds!

    Anyway, I'm not looking for sympathy. I'm just curious about others' experiences.

    Goddamn.
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    Honey, you can conduct yourself however you choose, but don't be surprised when girls get mad over this sort of thing. That's the nature of the business. You can get as irritated as you wanna, but being late to stage IS going to get you the cold shoulder from other girls. Don't believe me? Keep doing it and see how it goes for you.

    Our EXPERIENCE is that being late to stage is a bad way to behave at work, and will get you fined in better clubs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaizaine View Post
    If you're 5 mins late to the stage at my club u get a $50 fine and have to pay it to the girl left waiting. It's a great incentive not to be late.
    Hahahah, hell for that I'd love to be kept on stage for 5 minutes!!!!!!!

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    ^^^
    babe on slow nights I pray that someone will miss my stage and get disappointed when I see a half dressed girl bolting across the club to get up in time LOL.
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    Five minutes is a long time to be late for stage, our songs are only 3 to four minutes TOPS, so be five minutes late would be ridiculous at my club and you would be fined at my club too. Girls are even made to dance to the "chicken dance song" by one DJ if they are late. But the girl also could not get into trouble if the DJ changed the order of the rotation and then did not inform the dancers and the dancer was unprepared b/c she did not know she was up. The OP never said she was five minutes late to stage (or late to stage all night even), and the first time she did not know she was up because the DJ was fucking up, and couldn't get their fast enough because she was busy with a custy.
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    ^^
    oh yeh i should have mentioned our stage sets are 15 mins.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jaizaine View Post
    ^^
    oh yeh i should have mentioned our stage sets are 15 mins.
    Even if you have 15 min stage sets, 5 min is still awfully late. We do two songs so 6-8 min sets, and if you are over a minute late when you are giving a dance then you are fined. If you don't get up onstage in about 15 secs when you are called and are not giving a dance then you are fined. I think your club has a good idea. If you don't realize you are up in 5 mins, or it takes you longer than that to get to stage, then you're just SOL in my opinion.
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    If the DJ is wasted and fucking up the rotation there isn't a lot you can do about it. I've had this happen plenty of times. Like, he forgets who's signed out in VIP and so repeatedly calls someone who's not on the rotation, or he plays extra songs, or whatever. I can totally see a situation where he doesn't even call the right name happening. Andy, if you've never worked with a wasted DJ I envy you so.

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    ^^^
    Yes, that is exactly what happened: he would call a girl and she wouldn't show up so then he would suddenly call out another name, realizing the first girl was in VIP, I guess. He always acts high...

    There were no fines being enforced b/c if you're not on standby then you most likely will be late. Otherwise, yes, I would've been fined, as I was told on my first day. But only for the 1st occurrence. I wasn't technically late the 2nd time, and I actually rushed the customer to pay me towards the end of the final song.
    Hey, I know it sucks to wait on stage but you will also be fined for just walking off.

    I wonder if the DJ was reprimanded... b/c it seriously got abnormally confusing.
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    I do get annoyed when the girl after me repeatedly misses her stage....but if a lot of girls were doing it that night because the dj was screwing up...then you cant be blamed. I've had DJ's change rotation without telling anyone because they were wasted, or a girl went to the champagne room or left for the night early and we now have no idea who is up and when. And since he's wasted...you cant understand a damn thing he says over the mic.

    She should have been a bit more understanding...no need to be a bitch because you are on stage for a few more seconds. I"ve done 2-3 stage sets in a ROW before because they couldnt figure out where anyone was. Way to run a club..ugh

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    God, I used to work with a DJ who would do this shit every Saturday, plus forget to cut songs so they lasted for six minutes, which sucks on a busy weekend night in a table dance only club.

    Anyhow, I would blow it off. If she thinks it's your fault, fuck it.

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