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    Where do you draw the line?

    At what point do you feel a stripper becomes a prostitute? Obviously not all strippers are prostitutes (I'd say most aren't), but we all draw the line somewhere and I suspect it's at a different point for all of us. Where is it for you?

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    When I do something that makes me feel yucky for having done it for money.

    I feel I could reasonably fuck the right customer for money but be okay with it, but if it is the wrong customer, then even an air dance feels like prostitution. I don't think I'm making sense, but that is the only way I can describe it.


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    I know exactly what you mean.

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    I personally feel that any sexual act, including mouth to mouth kissing, is prostitution. Sometimes I feel like groping qualifies too, if its intense enough. Besides what is lawful and accepted in the club, I think it depends on your comfort level. Like I only care for being lightly touched -more like being caressed. Any other type of touching makes me feel disgusting. I HATE being groped more than anything. It makes me feel cheap and whorish. Basically I think of prostitution as anything sexual rather than sensual. Its when the custy tries to take the lead and turn my hot sensual dance into something sexual is when I feel like its prostitution.

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    I can see the arguement for kissing but I think handjobs.

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    I can't stand being touched. Even when a friend hugs me or a stranger bumps into me, it's weird. I've always been that way.

    Not to say I've never let a customer touch me, I've never liked it, but I've never felt dirty about it either. I've got a pretty strong reaction to people touching me, so if it were ever prostitution, I think I would know - and most likely panic! at the strip club.

    But I agree with Paris. A nice guy touching my leg, or a harmless dude rubbing my back isn't crossing my line. But if sweat-pants-boner man is staring at me too long I will be really creeped out and think about quitting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paris View Post
    When I do something that makes me feel yucky for having done it for money.

    I feel I could reasonably fuck the right customer for money but be okay with it, but if it is the wrong customer, then even an air dance feels like prostitution. I don't think I'm making sense, but that is the only way I can describe it.
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    It does make sense to me Paris as this can then expand BEYOND just sexual acts.. as I feel people can and do prostitute themselves every day


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    As I was reading your post Yek, I was thinking to myself exactly what Paris said. I've had moments where I've felt totally violated. Like when a guy was so fucking grabby with me he pulled out all of my extensions, or when a drunk guy bit me (twice during one song), I mean those weren't big deals, but I was only doing it for the cash, and hating every single second of it. That's what made it feel like prostitution.
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    Nipple Sucking.
    Fingering.
    Handjob/Fingering.
    Penetration. Anal/Vaginal.
    Oral Sex.

    Kissing/Licking (like a cheek) I consider borderline, still beyond my comfort level, but not quite prostitution...

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    I definitely wouldn't call kissing prostitution, although it is fucking gross and I'd rather scrape my teeth against the sidewalk.

    I'd say handjobs, blowjobs, and sex. Fingering is also fucking nasty, but I don't think that falls under "prostitution services"

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    Default Re: Where do you draw the line?

    It's a continuum, and I don't really see a line anymore.



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    I dont really see a line in actions, it depends on the respect allowed by the customer. I mean SURE theres the obvious legal definitions, but thats not what's being discussed.

    My line is in some of the emotional games. Several months back, a customer paid me 400$ to look him in the eye and say "I love you". He never touched me, nor i him, yet i spent three days afterwards throwing up and feeling like shit. And I was single at the time, it was just a violation of my personal boundaries, and not worth ANY amount of money. Better believe i ain't doing THAT again!

    At the same time, I've also been in some more ...loose... situations where touching, even of ass or breasts, was normal. And yeah i didn't necesarily like it from everyone, but i never felt like "I'm a whore".

    I really think its more of an emotional thing than any physical boundary we can define.
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    Quote Originally Posted by needtodance View Post
    I dont really see a line in actions, it depends on the respect allowed by the customer. I mean SURE theres the obvious legal definitions, but thats not what's being discussed.

    My line is in some of the emotional games. Several months back, a customer paid me 400$ to look him in the eye and say "I love you". He never touched me, nor i him, yet i spent three days afterwards throwing up and feeling like shit. And I was single at the time, it was just a violation of my personal boundaries, and not worth ANY amount of money. Better believe i ain't doing THAT again!

    At the same time, I've also been in some more ...loose... situations where touching, even of ass or breasts, was normal. And yeah i didn't necesarily like it from everyone, but i never felt like "I'm a whore".

    I really think its more of an emotional thing than any physical boundary we can define.
    Wow, do you think he really wanted to hear someone say "i love you" or was he trying to mess with your head? I would have reacted the same way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lena View Post
    It's a continuum, and I don't really see a line anymore.
    I have to agree with this. I mean I definitely see a difference between what I do and prostitution - and for that matter, so do the customers (like I've said before - try telling them "Oh, don't worry about it - this is the same thing!") but what makes it different seems to be more a matter of degree than an easily articulable line.

    In Canada, from what I've gleaned, it seems to be prostitution when there is fluid exchange. Fondling the dancer is okay, while licking the dancer is not. So as long as you don't get her juice on you it is still dancing.
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    when every guy you talk to expects a "mini-date" just to get a dance from him, then he propositions you during, and after the dance. When every dance you do for months on end is a wrestling match to keep their hands, mouth off of you.

    My line got crossed after we got the manager we have who calls the dancers whores, told us to act like whores.

    My lines were crossed so much so quickly mentally, not physically that I went looking for other employment.
    I might go back if they get rid of him, or find another club in a few months, but for now, I mentally can't go in there without feeling dirty.
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    I draw my personal line from arousal to pleasure. I'll give him a hardon but I don't want to pleasure it in any way.

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    ^^That's an interesting way to look at it. I think I know what you mean, though. I have no problem when a customer has a boner, but if I start to feel like what I'm doing could make him pop, that's where I start to feel weird.

    I also feel weird about fluids, excessive grinding, customers who think I'm their girlfriend, etc. For me, though, I don't draw the line of prostitution exactly where things start to make me feel weird. A lot of stuff can go on in the club that makes me uncomfy, but I wouldn't call it prostitution.

    I totally know what the girls mean who say it's a continuum. I feel the same way. I notice that I personally do draw a line, though. To me, handjobs, blowjobs, vaginal sex, anal sex, and I'd throw in anything else that could reasonably be expected to cause the customer to splooge, when performed for money, is prostitution.

    I like to draw a clear line these days. Not that I have any problem with prostitution. I have friends who've done it, and I'd probably do it myself under the right circumstances, if I needed the money. But I do think there's a difference between what most girls do in the club and out-and-out whoring.

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    i will not allow any custie to put their mouth on me anywhere. their hands can touch anything but boobs and cookie, if they pay extra in CR ill let them touch my boobs but they cant touch my nipples.

    that goes without saying no cock will come near me unclothed, lol.

    also dirt talking is gross to me, i dont even really do it at home i sure wont do it at work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jenny View Post
    In Canada, from what I've gleaned, it seems to be prostitution when there is fluid exchange. Fondling the dancer is okay, while licking the dancer is not. So as long as you don't get her juice on you it is still dancing.
    EW. But this makes sense. Fluid exchange with a stranger for money makes me cringe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havana View Post
    Nipple Sucking.
    Fingering.
    Handjob/Fingering.
    Penetration. Anal/Vaginal.
    Oral Sex.
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    If a girl is doing this on any kind of regaler basis, I think that one could reasonably say she is a prostitute. But I'm not on any moral high ground, and I don't think the distinction is that great.
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    This is a very interesting thread. I agree with just about all the responses - like Fiddler on the Roof. "You're right. And you're also right!"

    It's especially interesting about the continuum, I wouldn't have thought of it that way but it definitely is. I guess that's why the "line" is so fluid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havana View Post
    Nipple Sucking.
    Fingering.
    Handjob/Fingering.
    Penetration. Anal/Vaginal.
    Oral Sex.

    Kissing/Licking (like a cheek) I consider borderline, still beyond my comfort level, but not quite prostitution...
    I totally agree with this 100%......all those things I hate to see other girls do and if a guy ever attempted to do such things, I would feel disgusting and whorish. That's where my line is drawn. And like a few ladies already said, I could have sex with the "right" customer for money. He just hasn't showed up yet. Also, I don't like it when they try to lick or kiss on me; sometimes in like damn I must be doing a great job for them to think that I like them. But keep ur dirty mouth off of me.

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    Hand, mouth, or genital to genital contact.
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    I would call myself a hooker if I did any sexual favors or let a guy do them to me in exchange for money. I don't even like guys touching my boobs, so my hooker standards are not very exciting, but I'm more into selling the fantasy than providing it.

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    I use to dance in what I consider a pretty modest club. I felt violated if a guy tried to touch my pussy or tits. I would feel like once we had oral or physical sex it would be exchanging sex directly for money which is prostitution.

    However, some will argue that sugar daddy arrangements and women who marry for money are also prostitutes.

    Then some will say anything sexually related in exchange for money is prostitution, then in that case restaurants who flaunt beautiful women trying to lure business in and of course now the whole beauty industry in general are selling sex.

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