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    Hey everyone!!

    I'm jaylynn and I'm very new to sw. I've made up my mind to strip for financial reasons, and I have a few questions to ask before I go club hunting. But first, some background:

    I'm a college student, and I was raped about a year ago. I took a year off from school in order to deal with the trauma, which put me at the five-year mark in my studies. Unfortunately for me, the folks over in the financial aid department are only willing to pay for four years of college, not five. This means that I will ultimately need to come up with $30,000 on my own. So my questions are:

    1.What is the most I can expect to make as a newbie in 6 months? Would it even put a dent in my tuition?
    2.How far should I travel in order to avoid seeing any familiar faces (the last thing I need is for a fellow student to see my naked ass on Friday and then sit through an hour of abnormal psyc with me on Monday)
    3.Can you strip with stretch marks and eczema? (when my eczema shows up I look like a sexy tiger )
    4.I still can't access the club reviews feature of this site, so does anyone know of a good club in the Inland Empire/Southern California area?

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    1) $30K in 6 months in SoCal? not likely..not even close. The industry sucks BAD right now and SoCal is a really bad market. sorry
    2)depends on how far your friends and family go. Figure about an hour away is usually safe,but you cant guarentee that nobody will ever find out
    3)yes. You'll be fine.Some clubs may not hire you if your eczema is really noticeable,but most will(and the ones that wont are usually a nitpicky pain in the ass anyway). Stretch marks..meh..a lot of strippers have em
    4) cant help you there. C&R has been down for years..hopefully a few of our SoCAl girls can chime in

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    it's possible to make that kind of money depending on how open-ended her limits are regarding customer contact with her body parts.

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    True..if shes willing to hook and work 5-6 days a week she might make $5K a month.

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    I'm pretty realistic about my future earnings as a stripper, so I know that I can't expect to hit the $30,000 mark in 6 months. I was looking for more of an estimate on how much I can expect to make in six months, so that I can get an idea of how much money I'd still need to come up with in private loans.

    I also have to say that I have alot of respect for myself and for the profession, and I wouldn't dare compromise either by doing "extras" to pay the bills. I figure that the day I can't make money the right way is the same day that I should quit and move on to something else. There's no question that I need the money and that the tuition bill isn't getting any smaller, but becoming more relaxed with what I'm willing to do or have done to me seems like it would force me and the other girls to struggle to make money without bending and/or breaking the rules, effectively turning the club into a brothel. It just doesn't seem worth it, you know?

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    ^ I think you have an excellent attitude about getting into dancing. Right now is a pretty shitty time to ge tinto it, in all honesty. Things have seriously slowed down nationwide it seems due to the economy. There also seems to be a lot more assholes coming in. However, it can still be a very good way to make money and I wish you the very best of luck

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    ^ Thanks pretty lady, I really appreciate the well wishes. I could certainly use them. The few people that I've told about my plans haven't exactly been supportive My ex-boyfriend keeps telling me that "I'm too good to be a stripper," and has been mourning the loss of my innocence and virtue while expecting me to transform into some soulless money-grubbing hag overnight. My sister even had the nerve to ask "Didn't you learn your lesson from getting raped? Why would you put yourself in that position again?" As if getting raped is something that I can prevent by being an uptight, self-righteous, and very broke prude, just like her. She even said that it would be better to suffer than to take my clothes off, right before she suggested going into the army. So... I guess killing people for a living or starving to death is more commendable than dancing? WOW.

    I try not to take the criticism lying down, though. I've been pretty good at challenging all of the misconceptions that have been flung at me. I asked my ex-boyfriend what he thought of modeling. He of course said that he would prefer that I model rather than strip. So I said "Oh yeah, modeling is infinitely better than stripping! All I have to do is parade around in a skimpy bikini (or less) and smile while a roomful of men fantasize about sleeping with me...big difference! And people all across the nation and maybe even overseas can enjoy the privilege of seeing my naked ass instead of just a handful of men in a dark club" He, of course, had nothing to say Take away the camera and turn on some music and suddenly the two professions become very similar.

    As for my sister, I told her that the only reason why she would suggest that stripping would get me raped again is because it made her feel safer. Blaming me or making it seem as though my getting raped was a result of the choices that I've made rather than an example of how random and unfair life can be puts her in a position to say that as long as she minds her own business and doesn't participate in socially "unacceptable" behavior then getting raped can't possibly happen to her. I reminded her that it CAN happen to her and anyone else for that matter, and that she's just as likely to be raped wiping old folks asses for a living as I would be selling dances in a club. BTW, I was wearing a pair of baggy old sweatpants and a ratty t-shirt when I was raped (decent sleepwear for a college student), and being unsexy and minding my own business didn't save me in the least. I know that dancing isn't all sunshine and rainbows, but I'm not deluded enough to believe that I would somehow be safer if I didn't dance. For me, the worst that could happen already has happened, and could very well happen again whether I'm a stripper or a librarian, so what do I have to lose?

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    Wow, you are incredibly mature and I really admire the way you're handling what has happened to you. I really do commend you. It doesn't matter what other people think, most people do think of us strippers as dirty whores. But, they're not paying our bills and tuition and for diapers, are they? I'd say go for it, you've got nothing to lose since you seem to be very realistic about everything. Nothing you did caused you to be raped and it's very unfortunate that your sister is insinuating that it is.

    I hope you're finding the information you need on here, I'm in TX so I'm not of much help with the SoCal club stuff but if there is anything you need let me know! I've even got some old stripper stuff that I want to get rid of. I'm pretty small, I'm 5'6 and 110lbs.. I used to be a 34A but got my boobs done so I kinda outgrew my stuff. Some of it is just stretchy and one size.. if you think it would fit, you're more than welcome to it

    Feel free to PM me if you need anything at all, I've been dancing for 4 years on and off. I'm not an expert by any means, but I've pretty much seen it all and been through it all. I hope dancing works out for you, but either way, I hope you at least stick around on this forum!

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    I work in Los Angeles, PM me if you want recommendations on what clubs might be good. It really depends on your personality though. If you are super outgoing and can do the slutty/flirty thing and sit on guys laps for free, The Body Shop might be good for you. If you are intelligent and can carry a conversation, Plan B might be good for you. Last month I made 3k working 17 days, so if you work every day it might be possible to make 30k in 6 months, but if you are in school i dont know if that is feasible. You might want to look into getting some loans so you have more time to pay your tuition off. I have been seeing an increase in my money though the more i work, i guess just being better at being able to spot a time waster and having the confidence to just walk off when i sense no money (whereas i used to just continue to sit with the customer because i didnt want to be rude) so the more you work the better money you will make, so while last month i only made 175 average a shift, this month maybe ill make 200 or 250 average a shift.
    There are definitely girls who make at least 500 a night in LA clubs, but I am not one of them. most of these girls have been stripping for a while, and they have regulars and are buddy buddy with the management who sends them to the big spenders. I have only been working for 2 months and last month i averaged 175 a shift, which is shit money, but hey that is LA, so I guess it could kind of give you an idea of what you can expect to make. If you are super flirty though I think you can make a lot more. I am more of the reserved good girl type which gets me the decent customers but alienates a lot of the horndog customers (who i dont have the patience to deal with anyway). I also suck at making conversation, so if you are a quick-thinker you might also make more than I average.
    Also, eczema is not a problem at all, especially in the dark nude clubs.

    One more thing about LA- money is very much dependent on what club you work at. Certain clubs have very few customers or cater to very low income customers, and this is the reason i think so many girls hate LA. If you go to school where I think you do, it iis good that you are looking for a club a little far away because the downtown LA clubs SUCK. its full of cheap immigrants looking for 20 dollar blowjobs and unfortunately, girls who are desperate enough to comply. I suggest before auditioning, going to the club and checking out the type of customers that come to the club, because if the customers dont make a lot of money, you wont either.
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    I worked at Flesh in San Bernardino for all most a year, you can make a lot of money there but you have to fight your way through the super sluts who will do anything for a buck.
    I did not do too well there average 250-350 a night. I suck
    at making coversation with strange guys and there were just too many fucking creeps there for my liking.It has been a couple of years since I worked there I dont know maybe they cleaned it up a bit not sure.


    Bebe where is Plan B?

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    To loveandluxury: You're such a sweetheart! Unfortunately I'm kind of a bigger gal (5 '5' and about 145 lbs) so I'd probably rip holes in all of your nice clothes if I tried to squeeze into them I went to lotions and lace the other day to buy my auditioning outfit, and I had the worst luck with the one-size-fits-all costumes. I'm a coke bottle, and the one-size dresses made me look more like a two-liter. They didn't flatter me at all, so I've learned to steer clear of the stretchy stuff until I've lost some more weight (my goal is 130lbs). I eventually got lucky and walked out of there with a sexy bra/skirt combo, but it cost me $139, which put a major dent in my pocket book. I feel kinda dumb for spending so much money, but I think it's worth the few extra bucks to look good.

    To bebewood: Thanks so much for the info, I really appreciate it. But my school is in the Riverside area and I can't afford to travel to LA five nights a week, the gas bill alone would kill me. At first I was worried about the fact that someone I go to school with might see me, but then I thought "who should be more embarrassed--me for dancing naked, or them for paying money to see it?" I figure it's not worth the time or energy to be stressed about the opinions of people who I've never even met before, and I almost dare anyone to give me a hard time about trying to put food in my mouth and a roof over my head, especially when my circumstances have made it damn near impossible to earn money any other way. People will judge me no matter what I do, and the sooner I realize it and get comfortable with the idea, the better off I'll be.

    There are two clubs in the area that I'm interested in. One is called Club 215 in Colton, and the other is a Spearmint Rhino in Rialto. I've been to the Spearmint Rhino and paid a girl $100 to sit with me and give me an idea of what it's like to work there. I would have felt bad not paying her for her time, because I knew that every minute she spent with me was a minute that she could have been making money somewhere else. She was friendly and helpful and I liked her alot, but then I was wondering if she screwed me over. She told me that amateur night was on Thursdays, so I came back two weeks later on a Thursday all set to audition, only to be told that amateur nights were on Wednesdays. She's been working there long enough to know when amateur nights are, so I wonder if maybe she told me the wrong day because she didn't want the competition? Even though I was fully clothed, I was getting plenty of looks from the custies and even some of the other dancers were complimenting me, so maybe she didn't want me to work there? I don't know, I could be wrong but if I'm not then it would be awkward to work with her knowing that she set me up. So I'm thinking about going to Club 215 instead. It's a smaller club that has sort of a back-woods type feel, but maybe it would be better to start off there as a newbie and then move on to a more upscale club when I've grown as a dancer (and when I can afford to travel).

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    @ malloryKnox: Club Flesh in San Bernardino was the first club that I went to, and it was shut down. The whole area was a ghost town and there wasn't another soul for miles. I went on the internet to find out what happened and the news articles said that the club was closed temporarily because of all the prostitution that was going on inside. The Super Sluts ruined it for everyone

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    http://www.stripperweb.com/forum/sea...archid=1035704

    those are search results for threads mentioning spearmint rhino rialto.

    also it appears that club 215 might be your best bet, but i did not read every post. you can PM girls who posted about working in the area, if you let them know that is why you are doing so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by malloryknox View Post
    I worked at Flesh in San Bernardino for all most a year, you can make a lot of money there but you have to fight your way through the super sluts who will do anything for a buck.
    I did not do too well there average 250-350 a night. I suck
    at making coversation with strange guys and there were just too many fucking creeps there for my liking.It has been a couple of years since I worked there I dont know maybe they cleaned it up a bit not sure.


    Bebe where is Plan B?
    Plan B is a bikini club in West LA. It's on Pico and Barrington. Same owner as 4play.

    To the OP- there is actually a girl at my club that commutes from the Inland Empire, which I think is crazy, but she makes great money, shes always in the champagne room, i dont know how she does it.
    anyway if nearby clubs dont work out, i do know that some girls will come down and work in LA for the weekend and stay in hotels for the night, that is always an option too. but if youre going to do that you might as well go to vegas right? lol

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    between gas prices and traffic traveling from the IE to LA is NOT worth it in most circumstances.

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    Jaylynn, you and I seem to have a lot in common. What did you end up doing? How is starting off? Any advice for me? My biggest fears are, at this point, safety, high heels, and looking like an awkward fool while I dance.

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    also, why can't you go to a cheaper school? it's not clear if it is 30k per year or 30k over 5 years, but you should be able to find a cheaper or more payment-spaced option. i can get a quality (high ranked) law degree for about 50k for 3-5 years (inc parttime options), for example (no loans), which is half to a third what many people spend on quality law degrees.

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    @Kokani82: I decided to lose 20lbs and begin seeing a therapist before I audition. When I scoped out the clubs I noticed that most of the girls were a size 2, and since managers tend to hire the same type of girl I figured it wouldn't hurt to lose some more weight. Also, because of the rape I'm more likely to suffer from depression than most of the girls who dance. So having someone in my corner who will help me keep things in perspective might save me from some of the pitfalls of exotic dancing (low self-esteem, eating disorders, major depression, etc).

    As for my advice, I suggest you do plenty of research on the club that you've chosen. Visit a few times as a customer and get some background from the dancers who work there. Talk to more than one girl in order to get a balanced view. Buy a few dances so you can get an idea of what type of club it is and what might be expected of you. Also, write down a list of your goals and what you hope to accomplish. A good way to end up trapped in the profession is to lose sight of what you came there for.

    Your safety is a legitimate concern. I intend to buy a taser when I can afford it, but in the meantime I carry pepper spray AT ALL TIMES. I don't suggest buying a gun, because it might lull you into a false sense of security and cause you to be less careful. Pepper spray or a taser should be fine. High heels are no biggie. I know that the stripper shoes look very intimidating, but they're very comfortable and easy to walk in as long as you watch your step (I've damn near broken my neck on a few occasions, but I just brushed it off and kept on steppin')

    Walking in those shoes for the first time will humble you pretty quickly, and after a few minutes of kissing the pavement you will no longer be afraid to embarrass yourself, because you'll be too busy trying not to die I already know that I'm going to look awkward as hell on that stage, but I don't give a damn. That's part of the fun. What I lack in skill I can always make up for in positive energy, and so can you. Good luck girl.

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    @ miabella: My school is $30,000 a year, but when I came in as a freshman it was only $19,000 a year. So now I'm stuck paying twice as much for the same crappy education. But since I only have two quarters left, it just doesn't make much sense for me to transfer to a less expensive school. If I switched schools, then all of my credits might not transfer over, and then I might have to stay in school for another year or two, as opposed to six months. So I'm just going to put on a garter and shake it 'til I make it

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    i would at least ask what the transfer cap is before assuming.

    say you have 3 years of credit and only 2 years transfer (which is pretty typical). if the place you transfer to is 10k per year, you've saved money, even if it takes a few extra months.

    plus, maybe your quarter system is different than mine, but you can get in as many as 5 quarters in per year, and they are 8 or 11 week quarters, sometimes shorter.

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