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    My Dad is in the advanced stages of Multiple Sclerosis and struggles with dementia.
    After watching my father detereorate physically for 20+ years, I now get to watch him detereorate mentally as well. It's fucking awesome. I love it. I love how we can send a man to the moon but we "don't have a cure for M.S." yeah, right. I won't go into my theory on that and other diseases, but I digress..
    I left my family in Massachusetts and moved to California to start a new life for myself. I had to quit dancing and just needed to get away from it to turn my life around (and I did). My brother has taken over occupying my Dad and kicking in here and there for help, but the guilt eats at me on a daily basis. Badly. I think of how I could be there for my Dad when he is bored and lonely. It really fucks me up.
    The dementia is really difficult though. Does anyone else struggle with this? Not a distant relative or friend, but someone like a parent or a very close friend.
    I feel a lot of guilt because the dementia makes me so angry sometimes. Not my Dad, but the disease. i find myself getting easily frustrated. Like, I'll have a conversation with my Dad, and we'll make plans to talk tomorrow and he'll call me back 5 minutes later with no recollection that we just made plans to talk tomorrow.
    It makes me want to scream and cry and kick things and sometimes if life has already bitten me in the ass that day, I find I am less patient than other times. I never ever could get upset with my Dad, but sometimes I am sure I sound more "occupied." I HATE myself for this.
    Does anyone else deal with this? I would love to hear someone elses experience and how they cope..

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    My biological father suffers form neurological problem. It isn't dementia, but I deal with the same things as you.

    When he was in the war, he had to get a metal plate in his head for a severe head trama. Since that...he has memory problems and other issues. For example, he will call me, then call right back and say, I needed to talk to you.
    Or he will ask me my birthday and forget a minute later. he also gets really obsessive and one track minded, and can call me sveeral times in one day abotu the same issue, forgetting that we alreayd discussed it. He also doesn't understand a lot of thigns and I have to speak slowly and clarify for him...while making sure I don't make him feel stupid for not knowing.

    It's very frustrating and annoying at times...It doesn't hurt me hough...cause as I said, biological father. I only met him when I was 18 and had a relaionshi since then. He had given me up for adopton as a baby. so it's a little different for me, but I can still relate.

    I'm very very sorry you have to go through this...there's nothgin worse than dementia in loved ones

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    I'm sorry.

    I don't have any experience with it, but it'd break my heart if that ever happened to one of my parents. (hug)

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    Who? Where? Cow?

    I'm kidding.. Yeah I can relate. Nothing I can really say though to help.


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    Thanks Lysondra Just reassuring to know that I'm not alone, though it's sad at the same time.
    The thing with dementia though is it seems some days are better than others.
    PB I know exactly what you're talking about. My Dad goes through the obsessive thing as well. He builds things up sometimes and..it's hard for all of us, though he deserves our patience because I can't imagine how hard it is on him.

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    Wow, it's funny that you bring this up today...I just made up a schedule with my mom to be a respite for her a couple days a week as she takes care of my grandma full time who has dementia.

    I am close with my gram, but obviously much closer with my mom and what makes me most sad is what my gram's dementia is doing to my mom. My mom had to quit her job to take care of my gram, and she isn't exactly rich. The reason we had to do this is because my grandma doesnt have enough money to pay for a private facility for herself (my mom is her power of attorney). My aunt and uncle, who I fucking hate, are wealthy and they refuse to contribute to her care. Our only option has become either putting my grandma in a state facility, in which the care is awful, or taking care of her .

    My mom has in the last couple months become a prisoner, basically. I hate to tell you this because it has not happened to your dad and might not, but the dementia has made her mean and beligerant and awful. I sleep over at her apartment sometimes and she'll wake me up in the middle of the night screaming and accusing me of stealing her medicine, jewelry, money *which again she doesn't even have* etc. It's really hard to calm her down. One time, she called 911 and said that people were keeping her hostage. Imagine my horror when the police showed up at my door in the quiet suburbs at 3 am ( I was sleeping when she called). She has medicine that's supposed to help her chill, but she is too paranoid to take it and we can't make her. I know this sounds awful, but I'm afraid of her, and when I sleep over at her house I lock myself in a bedroom because I am scared she would do something to me in my sleep, she is quite a lot bigger than me. We have to put child safety locks on the door (they're plastic and pull right off, or you could cut them with a scissors. We're on the first floor so if there was a fire we could just go out one of the patio doors. Just so you don't think we're awful) so that we can go to sleep without worrying she will sneak away.

    Also, she recently started talking to her friend "Joe" for three hours a day. Joe is imaginary. She tells him that there are strangers living in the house who won't let her leave. (IE me and my mom) The wierd thing is that she knows who we are, so I don't get what is really going on in her head. Oh, and she also hides her medicine and other things so well we can't find it. And medicine as you know is not cheap.

    Probably the worst thing she ever did was go through her phone book, find a ladies number she hadn't talked too in like ten years, and call her and ask her if she could come over. She took a cab to the ladies house, and didn't have money to pay for it. The lady paid for it and called my grams house and left a message, and when my mom got home she picked her up. Now my mom is too scared to leave her alone.

    I guess what has given me a bit of peace in this situation is honestly that at a certain point, you have to realize that the person who once was is gone. It's kind of like taking care of that person physically while they remain on this earth, but you can't expect them still to be that same person; you know?

    The only reason I'm telling you this depressing ass story is because I hope that you don't do what my mom is doing and let this situation dominate and control your whole life. While that may sound cold, I can garuntee you your dad (in his healthy state) would not want that. Nor would my gramma. While we must be responsible and do the best we can for our loved ones, I do believe there comes a certain point where we let go, and if that means them being in a facility, well then that is for the best. My mom is absolutely beautiful, 50 years old, single and can't date or have friends or any kind of my life because she feels obligated to watch my gramma 24 hours a day. That's just not fair too her. So understand that you must be there for your dad, but not at the expense of your own life.
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    Wow, that is an unbelievable story, VegasPrincess. Very moving and very sad. I think what your Mom is doing is so selfless and amazing. I cannot imagine the toll it has taken on her. The part about your gram's behavior is really disheartening, but you did have a good point, it is not the person that she once was. I can imagine this has been really stressful on both you and your Mom. Sounds like your Mom is doing a really great job though. She is definitely giving more than what most people would (including your aunt and uncle). Thanks for sharing your story with me and keep your chin up too.

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    If you want stories... before my grandfather passed he had bad dementia. He called for me for weeks while in the hospital and I visited every day. Each time I visited he'd yell at me to go away because he was waiting for Lysondra, he didn't want me. He forgot who I was but remembered who I was at the same time. He kept crying because I never visited him... he even cried to me about his favourite granddaughter, me, who never saw him but he loved her.

    That really hurt.


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    Thank you for the support guys. Scarlett, the "happy bundle of joy" is what I look down the path and hope for. I guess keeping that faith helps.
    Lysondra, that is crushing. There are some things that just really mess with your spirit as a person, and I can imagine that experience was one of them. How frustrating for your grandfather and you.

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    The truly heart-wrenching part of all of it was being right there and being told how sad someone is you never visit. I really understood how important I was to him and knew he wanted nothing more than to see me... and there I was... and he was crying about how much he loved me and how much he missed me and all I could do was say "I'm right here." but he wouldn't hear me. You start to realise how important you really are to people then.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaiyla View Post
    My Dad is in the advanced stages of Multiple Sclerosis and struggles with dementia.
    After watching my father detereorate physically for 20+ years, I now get to watch him detereorate mentally as well. It's fucking awesome. I love it. I love how we can send a man to the moon but we "don't have a cure for M.S." yeah, right. I won't go into my theory on that and other diseases, but I digress..
    I left my family in Massachusetts and moved to California to start a new life for myself. I had to quit dancing and just needed to get away from it to turn my life around (and I did). My brother has taken over occupying my Dad and kicking in here and there for help, but the guilt eats at me on a daily basis. Badly. I think of how I could be there for my Dad when he is bored and lonely. It really fucks me up.
    The dementia is really difficult though. Does anyone else struggle with this? Not a distant relative or friend, but someone like a parent or a very close friend.
    I feel a lot of guilt because the dementia makes me so angry sometimes. Not my Dad, but the disease. i find myself getting easily frustrated. Like, I'll have a conversation with my Dad, and we'll make plans to talk tomorrow and he'll call me back 5 minutes later with no recollection that we just made plans to talk tomorrow.
    It makes me want to scream and cry and kick things and sometimes if life has already bitten me in the ass that day, I find I am less patient than other times. I never ever could get upset with my Dad, but sometimes I am sure I sound more "occupied." I HATE myself for this.
    Does anyone else deal with this? I would love to hear someone elses experience and how they cope..
    I can definitely relate. My Mother has had Multiple Sclerosis ever since she was 16. She was the youngest reported case back then. She's been bedridden for 23 years now, and only gets up for an hour a day with the help of her home health aide and a hoyer lift. She spends the rest of the time in a hospital bed (sand, because she has bedsores). She's had Dementia for about 15 years or so. Because of this, I can't spend more than 5 minutes with her, in person or even on the phone. She'll be sweet and nice one moment, and the next, she's flying off the handle.

    Twenty-Three years ago, she got Encephalitus when my younger sister and brother had Chicken Pox. She fell into a coma and woke up a month later. She could no longer walk. She was no longer an adult, but had a childlike mentality--and that's the way it's been since. A few years after the coma, they couldn't move her legs to clean her and things like that, so they had to go in and cut some tendons in her legs. She's legally blind as well, and they believe it's only a matter of a year or two before she's fully blind.

    Believe me, I know what you're going through more than you know. I'll PM you my number in case you ever need to chat or just vent. I've seen it all with my Mother.

    MS is a horrible disease, and it takes its toll on everyone around the person who has it.

    My thoughts are with you.

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    My grandma is in the beginning stages of Alzheimer's and its making me really sad. I saw grandma this past weekend visiting my parents. She kept forgetting where the stairs were and when my parents left to go to a graduation party, she forgot where they went. Its so sad. Its making tear up now.

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    Rhiannon it sounds like you have totally been put through the ringer with this. Your Mom's situation sounds extremely difficult, and I feel for you, her, and everyone close to her. So true, M.S. does take it's toll on everyone in the family in addition to obviously the person who is afflicted with it. It's such a downer and sometimes it's really difficult to see the light at the end of the tunnel with this disease. Sometimes I feel so much anger because I feel like my Dad got screwed out of a normal, functional life. 16 years old though, wow..that's rough.
    to you guys struggling with M.S. and/or dementia as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaiyla View Post
    Rhiannon it sounds like you have totally been put through the ringer with this. Your Mom's situation sounds extremely difficult, and I feel for you, her, and everyone close to her. So true, M.S. does take it's toll on everyone in the family in addition to obviously the person who is afflicted with it. It's such a downer and sometimes it's really difficult to see the light at the end of the tunnel with this disease. Sometimes I feel so much anger because I feel like my Dad got screwed out of a normal, functional life. 16 years old though, wow..that's rough.
    to you guys struggling with M.S. and/or dementia as well.
    Oh absolutely. I'm going to go and dig out a picture of what my Mother looked like when she attended Airline school (She was going to be a flight attendant, but was grounded when she would randomly trip and fall). She wasn't officially diagnosed until I was 3 months old---She was given the diagnosis the same day they found I had Hydrocephalus. But it was reported back in '66, and they ran tests for years before actually saying it, and even then, the Doctor let it "slip" out. I'll also post a picture of what she looks like now, even though I really can't stand to see the before and after. She was truly beautiful back then.

    Up until she got Encephalitis and fell into the coma, she was getting around pretty well by furniture-walking and she also had one of those powered scooters that she'd ride around the house (My Stepfather, who also had MS had a matching one--it was kind of cute.) My Mother even ran her own Bridal Boutique that had to be sold when she couldn't get around anymore. It still makes me tear up when I pass it on the street.

    She's done a lot of work with the MS Society though, ever since she was diagnosed. She's received a lot of awards from them. For about 16 years or so, she's been responsible for getting door prizes for their annual Christmas party. She does it all with her phone, and her aides pick all the stuff up for her. She attends it every year. Luckily Universal provides her transportation.

    I'll dig them up and post them as soon as the Kids get occupied with something.

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    My 64 year old father is in the beginning stages of Alzheimer's.
    I'm working on moving my mother and father in with me in the next couple of years. I know its going to be very very difficult and nothing can fully prepare me for when the time is here. Luckily I have a LOT of family support.

    BTW VegasPrincess,
    thank you for your post.

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    When my grandfather started going through this, it was really frustrating. You have to realize that the person's brain really isn't working correctly and learn to deal with it as a disease symptom. It's hard not to take things personally when it's coming from someone whose opinions you've always respected.

    It's worthwhile to have a professional care-giver around every so often to make sure that something isn't being accidentally overlooked.
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    Sending you because I've been through this twice. Not MS but seeing a loved one suffer dementia. The first time I experienced it as a child with my grandmother and then again in my 20's when I lost my Dad.
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    Yes, I have lots of experience with dementia. I used to work in a nursing home, and even though I'm not longer working primarily with geriatrics, they still comprise a large medical demographic. Working with them is very hard. They're often the worst possible combination of amnesia and mood swings. Even if they're sweet, you have to be on guard. It's really sad to see things like parents not recognizing their own children, formerly sweet people turning into nasty people, and once-intelligent people eating their own feces. To make things worse, you're caught in many Catch-22's. For example, you can't force them to shower against their will. However, you'll be accused of neglect if they're caked with dried feces and filthy. You'll also be accused of abuse if you try to ask the family about sedating the dementia patient.

    As horrible as it sounds, I made a suicide pact. If I start going downhill, I'm going to take myself out. I'm not sure how I feel about death, but I am scared shitless of a long decrescendo of parts of me dying before I draw my last breath. People live way too long nowadays. You survive the heart attack and the stroke, only to wither away from organic brain rot. Having worked in a nursing home, I've see the kind of trash who are allowed to work there. I am not going to be one of them.
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    Dementia is really sad to deal with. You have to have a lot of patience.

    My mom's mom had it really bad but she was still a sweetheart. My mom would visit her twice or 3x's a week after work. One time my mom went in & painted her mom's toenails. The next time my mom went in her mom kept raving about "this nice lady that came in & painted my toes a couple days ago." She didn't remember that it was her daughter. My mom balled her eyes out on my shoulder that night.

    My grandma always seemed happy tho. She had been living with my aunt but she was hallucinating because of the dementia so they put her in a nursing home. She made friends there. She always thought I was someone else when I visited & would get embarrassed when I corrected her (she was still classy & would pretend like she knew who everyone was & that she had accidentally said the wrong name. She would also pretend like she remembered the stories that people told her the day before, even tho it was obvious she didn't remember).

    Just be patient. On the plus side, you can tell the same story over & over and they'll like it every time.

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    i had to bring up this thread. I made sure I did a search before i posted my own. But I am dealing with alot with my mom who had frontal lobal dementia. she was diagnosed 5 years ago at age 50.
    I am having a hard time dealing with this. my mom is very sick, and the place she is at now (3rd place) is threatening to kick her out because she cries all the time an is disruptive to other residents. My family is having a hard time finding the right place for her. I love my mom and she is still very sweet to me (an only me) she calls me "her heart". my family advised the place she might be a disruptive and a bit violent when we first brought her there. and now they tell us they cant deal with her. they are being paid SEVEN THOUSAND DOLLARS a month. i dont understand why its so hard. when she gets anxious, please sedate her. instead they bring her to the hospital. this is the second time this month they brought her there. and my family refuses me to go get her, because they want the nursing home to go pick her up and bring her back.
    just to let you know, i cry all day long because of this. my mom was such a brilliant smart and sweet person and she doesnt deserve this. she can not help it. half of her brain is deteriorated,. its a miracle she still remembers me and able to tell me how much she loves me.

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    It hasn't happened yet, but my Dad has MS. So, it's comming

    I'm sorry for everyone who's gone through it. It does help me prepare a bit.

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    Oh Victory, I am SOO sorry

    That is tremendously awful!! That's really scary about the nursing home too... have you looked into finding a place that has a "memory ward?" My grandma that passed away last year was in one, the people were really nice and it was a seperate part of a nursing home/hospice that was just for people with dementia.
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    im sorry to hear about your loss VP.
    Yeh this is a separate section from the nursing home. part of the problem is, the other residents are so much older an quieter (sedated), and my mom is really talkative and active. i think that is where the disruptiveness
    she is in the mental unit of the hospital right now. they are adjusting her meds and she will be under their care for a week. she tried to kill herself on sunday. i spent all day yesterday in the hospital and brought her back to the home.
    she was banging her head against the wall really hard screaming she is going to kill herself
    they brought her back to the hospital today and they put her in that unit. im really worried right now.
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