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    Mia, greenidlady, other color gurus, I need y'alls help.

    I know NOTHING about chemical dyes, I only use natural. However I've been told to dye my hair. Specifically, dark pink. A very bright dark pink, actually. It will look like the girl in this video:


    I talked to a hairdresser who said as long as she could get my hair to bleach (she's going to strand test) she had a dye that would make my hair in better condition than virgin hair. 0_0

    It's a silver bottle with a red lid. Not sure what brand.

    How do I keep it from fading? How do I minimize the damage? I realllllly don't want my hair to start breaking off/getting fried and sad. I love having it so long.

    Is this whole "better than virgin" thing real? Or is she just saying that? Can I just do my roots when I need them redone?

    HALP!
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    Forgot to add:

    When I get my roots done will they be darker than the rest of my hair?

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    ^^^ the virgin hair thing is a crock of shit... Basically, a demi or semi permanent color usually contains a crap ton of moisturizers so it can leave hair in better condition, but it will not restore decolorized hair to a virgin state, much less "better than virgin"- whatever that means.

    I currently have hot pink peekaboo highlights, this is my second go around with them. My natural color is a level 4 and I lift my hair to a level 5 copper auburn. My highlights were first decolorized to yellow orange... Unless you're a natural or current artificial color is a level 8 blonde or lighter, you'll have to bleach first, then color.

    First time around, my only option for a hot pink was a semi permanent. I was reappling it 2X a week minimum. Advantage, less damage since semi permanent color is deposit only- no ammonia or peroxide. Easy to apply, no mixing needed... just put on a pair of gloves, open the jar, and make sure you apply it evenly. Disadvantage, dramatic color fading after every shampoo- as I mentioned before, the shit needs to be reapplied frequently.

    Recently, Redken came out with High Fusion... a permanent color that comes in vibrant tones. However, in order to get it to be a vibrant tone you still have to bleach if you're darker than a level 8- using it on darker virgin hair results in a more natural, subtle tone. Now, I decolorize to an orange and then apply High Fusion with a 10 volume. Advantages: I now only color my pink once every 2-3 weeks. Disadvantages: it's permanent haircolor therefore contains ammonia and peroxide- I'm repeatedly blowing open the cuticle and damaging my hair with every application and it takes 35-45 minutes to process.

    Honestly, I like my current color process... My ends are the only parts showing damage- they're brittle and fade more quickly then the rest of my peekaboo's. The rest of the pink stuff is still has elasticity and feels alright. But if your main concern is the integrity of your hair, it's definately not the lesser of the two evils.

    Since you have to bleach in order to get a vibrant tone if you have darker hair, even new growth has to be decolorized before coloring... You can just bleach the outgrowth to the line of demarcation, then color the entire head to minimize damage- bleaching is the most damaging to the hair so you don't want to overlap it over and over again.

    Also, you'll need lots and lots of protein... I would protein load your immediately hair before and after you color and then once a week between coloring for maintainence. I know you like your natrual stuff, but I highly recommend a lab created protein restorer- something that will penetrate the cuticle. Redken Extreme CAT treatment is an excellent protein treatment that addresses porosity caused by chemical damage and Extreme PPT (if you can get your hands on it)stregthens the inner protein bonds. You would also benefit from in salon Chemistry Systems, too.

    To prevent fading, the best thing you can do is shampoo as little as possible. If you don't already have one, get a dry shampoo. I shampoo 2-3 times a week and use Samy Dry Spray Shampoo in between... that Samy stuff is the best $6 I've ever spent!

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    Mia, you're a goddess. Thank you so much! I'm totally out of my element here.

    Off to find the Redken.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mia M View Post
    ^^^ the virgin hair thing is a crock of shit... Basically, a demi or semi permanent color usually contains a crap ton of moisturizers so it can leave hair in better condition, but it will not restore decolorized hair to a virgin state, much less "better than virgin"- whatever that means.

    I currently have hot pink peekaboo highlights, this is my second go around with them. My natural color is a level 4 and I lift my hair to a level 5 copper auburn. My highlights were first decolorized to yellow orange... Unless you're a natural or current artificial color is a level 8 blonde or lighter, you'll have to bleach first, then color.

    First time around, my only option for a hot pink was a semi permanent. I was reappling it 2X a week minimum. Advantage, less damage since semi permanent color is deposit only- no ammonia or peroxide. Easy to apply, no mixing needed... just put on a pair of gloves, open the jar, and make sure you apply it evenly. Disadvantage, dramatic color fading after every shampoo- as I mentioned before, the shit needs to be reapplied frequently.

    Recently, Redken came out with High Fusion... a permanent color that comes in vibrant tones. However, in order to get it to be a vibrant tone you still have to bleach if you're darker than a level 8- using it on darker virgin hair results in a more natural, subtle tone. Now, I decolorize to an orange and then apply High Fusion with a 10 volume. Advantages: I now only color my pink once every 2-3 weeks. Disadvantages: it's permanent haircolor therefore contains ammonia and peroxide- I'm repeatedly blowing open the cuticle and damaging my hair with every application and it takes 35-45 minutes to process.

    Honestly, I like my current color process... My ends are the only parts showing damage- they're brittle and fade more quickly then the rest of my peekaboo's. The rest of the pink stuff is still has elasticity and feels alright. But if your main concern is the integrity of your hair, it's definately not the lesser of the two evils.

    Since you have to bleach in order to get a vibrant tone if you have darker hair, even new growth has to be decolorized before coloring... You can just bleach the outgrowth to the line of demarcation, then color the entire head to minimize damage- bleaching is the most damaging to the hair so you don't want to overlap it over and over again.

    Also, you'll need lots and lots of protein... I would protein load your immediately hair before and after you color and then once a week between coloring for maintainence. I know you like your natrual stuff, but I highly recommend a lab created protein restorer- something that will penetrate the cuticle. Redken Extreme CAT treatment is an excellent protein treatment that addresses porosity caused by chemical damage and Extreme PPT (if you can get your hands on it)stregthens the inner protein bonds. You would also benefit from in salon Chemistry Systems, too.

    To prevent fading, the best thing you can do is shampoo as little as possible. If you don't already have one, get a dry shampoo. I shampoo 2-3 times a week and use Samy Dry Spray Shampoo in between... that Samy stuff is the best $6 I've ever spent!
    i agree 100%!
    you can also add some of the dye to your shampoo to keep it from fading.
    Rusk is a good brand that doesnt fade it too quickly...you can get it at target for $10 a bottle. a good investment if you need to wash more than 3x a week.

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    Back when I was allowed to have purple hair (I find it strange I have to look more normal at the club than I did as a secritary in an office) I just tried to shampoo it as minimally as possible. I'm a clean freak though so that was very difficult. I found I could ballance it by wetting it down every day, and shampooing only every other day or every third day.

    I'm kinda glad I don't have purple hair anymore, I can be shower-obsessive and not worry, lol.
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    You're welcome, Cherry. I forgot to add that you'll also want a shampoo and conditioner that are designed for color treated hair. Something too moisturizing will help fade haircolor even faster.

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    HA,,this must be the new BIG thing among strippers. I"m about to do my roots(blonde) and put Manic Panic pink streaks in it before work tonight(thanks to Yek giving me her supply!)

    I've been wanting to put a few pink streaks in my hair forever!! And Manic Panic glows! I cant wait to see how it looks on stage!!

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    Well, I usually only wash on Sundays, so maybe that's a good thing. I have to have help to wash it since it's so long/thick and it takes around 14 hours to dry, so I can't really practically do it more often. So hopefully that helps.

    Color treated shampoo. Got it. If I buy from the store I buy organix, it has lots of protein in it like you said I needed. So I guess I'll use that.

    I'm doing my whole head so I guess I'll add some of the dye to my condish and see if that keeps it bright.

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    ^^^ You only have to wash your hair once a week? Damn that must be nice.... I wash mine like everyday and it still looks dirty sometimes


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    I worked up to it. Started at three times, then two, then one. Let your scalp adjust.

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    Well boo. Done with the dye party and you can barely see the pink streaks. Maybe it will be more prominent when its dry. Wah. I WANT PINK!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cherry_sin View Post
    Mia, greenidlady, other color gurus, I need y'alls help.

    I know NOTHING about chemical dyes, I only use natural. However I've been told to dye my hair. Specifically, dark pink. A very bright dark pink, actually. It will look like the girl in this video:
    http://www.defendourporn.org/?p=17

    I talked to a hairdresser who said as long as she could get my hair to bleach (she's going to strand test) she had a dye that would make my hair in better condition than virgin hair. 0_0

    It's a silver bottle with a red lid. Not sure what brand.

    How do I keep it from fading? How do I minimize the damage? I realllllly don't want my hair to start breaking off/getting fried and sad. I love having it so long.

    Is this whole "better than virgin" thing real? Or is she just saying that? Can I just do my roots when I need them redone?

    HALP!
    Anytime you put chemical in the hair you break down disulfide bonds permanantly changing the hair. When the chemicals in the color and developer mix they open the cuticle which is the outer most layer of your hair and penetrate the cortex. This process in and of itself isn't easy on the hair. The hair's natural ph is between 5 and 6. The chemical process raises the ph, bleach raises your ph to around 11. When you condition the hair afterwards it helps me bring the ph back down and close the cuticle. However, a permanent change has been made to the hair using ammonia and hydrogen peroxide. So, your hair IS NOT virgin anymore. You can put conditioners in and glazes but you still broke the strongest bond in the hair and made a chemical change. The likelihood of your hair being in "better" shape than virgin hair that is healthy is slim. Bleach is more damaging than color because it removes the color out of your hair by going into the cortex and throwing the color out.

    You can keep it from being damaged by allowing someone else to do it who won't tell you bleach is going to put your hair in better shape than doing nothing to it all. It would be in your best interest to find a colorist/stylist who will be forthcoming with you and not lie.

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    ^^That was what I was thinking. But I'm in Oklahoma and she's really the only girl in town that does those colors. And I'm so afraid I'll mess it up if I do it myself.

    I just don't want to end up with split frazzley ends. I think I'd cry.

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    What color is your hair naturally?

    I mean if you are dark naturally she is going to have to bleach your head all over. Then she will add back in the color. Your hair shouldn't be fried from those processes alone if she has any idea of what she is doing. But to say it's going to be better than virgin hair is a bunch of BS.

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    My hair is sandy blonde/brown. She is going to bleach me all over.

    That's if she can, anyway. She has to strand test since I henna.

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    Yeah, I don't know much about henna colored hair. I haven't had any experience trying to color over or remove henna or metallic salts yet.

    What shade of henna color do you have on it?

    I do know henna is more "staining" to the hair and not as easy to remove. She'll probably have to use a higher volume developer or a larger ratio of developer to lift you.

    If you didn't have color on your air and were naturally dark blonde/light brown she wouldn't have to lift you more than a couple of shades.

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    Well, I'm hoping that since I only use the plant henna (no mettallic salts, I make it myself) it will come up. *Sighs*

    I went and got protein treatments. My appt. is for Tuesday so I'll let everyone know how it goes!

    Thanks for all the help guys. Y'all are amazing.

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    I use Special Effects, which is a vegan hairdye (no developers; you can leave it on forever), and my hair came out like this:




    They have darker pinks, too, like Virgin Rose.

    These types of vegetable-based dyes will "condition" your hair by filling in the pores of your bleached hair, but I strongly doubt it could genuinely bring your hair back to a virgin state.

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    That's a gorgeous color! I really like that. How long did yours last?

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    After doing some research hot topic carries "raw" which is the same as special effects, who is it's parent company. I'm just gonna do it myself. Stupid lying hairdressers.

    Off to the mall.

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    Remember: these dyes work better on fried/porous/bleached hair! I have thick black Asian hair which was bleached white, so it was extremely damaged. The pink lasted forever.

    Manic Panic is also a good brand, but I have heard mixed reviews about Raw. If you can find SFX or Manic Panic, I'd opt for those first. Manic Panic doesn't last quite as long but they have an amazing color selection.

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    ^^^MP is the semi I used on my first go around with pink hair... constant application hell.

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    Forgot to add, please PM me some pics, cherry... I'd like to see your results!

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    I don' t know, the Amplified Hot Hot Pink lasted for ages on me. I did have seriously, seriously damaged hair, though, so it drank all the pigment up like a sponge.

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