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    I wouldn't exactly call myself a subsistence stripper, but I definitely could have saved more in the last few years. I lived well, ate wherever I wanted, took vacations, and paid for school and other goals. It's definitely been a good thing in my life. I also did some occasional escorting through the internet, which wasn't a negative experience but definitely was something that I did not prefer to stripping. Lately, the decline in my income is making me want to either step up my game to super stripper, work 6 nights a week and save every penny...or just work as an escort. Hope I don't get flamed for this, but I'm really, really scared about the economy, and if I know I could make a guaranteed $1000 a day and mentally/physically handle the sex work, I'd rather just do that and leave stripping behind. I'm starting to think in survival mode, and I'm wondering if anyone else is feeling similarly. I know there are many super strippers on here who do great and are preparing for an economic downturn in their own way, and I'm not trying to imply that the economic woes are driving me to escorting or driving anyone else to escorting as if that was a negative. I'm just wondering if anyone else has considered these things.

    For a while I liked stripping because I thought, "Wow, this is awesome because I don't have do [insert sexual action here] with the customer and I still get paid hundreds per night!" It's because I started out as an escort at 18 and didn't really understand that there were other options.

    Stripping has lost its appeal because I feel like if I'm going to be working, why not make a guaranteed amount per hour. And if the US economy is really going down the toilet, I feel like if I'm comfortable escorting, dancing would just be a waste of my time. It's a numbers game, and as an escort, the money is guaranteed and the demand is super high. Why work more for less, if you're going to work a certain number of hours? Obviously an hour stripping is not an hour escorting, though...

    I find that when I'm at the strip club, I'm unfocused and I have trouble "accepting" that what I there to do is actually sell lap dances. The whole routine is boring to me. Sure, it's great when I have one customer that spends a ton, but that's just happening rarely for me. It's pretty scary actually.

    I seem to have already made up my mind, I guess. The idea of going back to escorting doesn't make me sad; rather, the guaranteed money, demand and freedom makes me feel relieved. However, I feel like escorting is very lonely and sort of hollow. I feel like I can't talk to anyone about it.

    I'm going in to work at a club tonight after I get my hair colored and cut, and I'm hoping that I can give it my all. I am struggling with my decisions right now. On one hand, the state of the world and my life makes me want to buckle down and be a sex worker. Do the work, get the money, use the money for education and savings, and not mess around with $100 shifts at the strip club. On the other hand, the obvious risks and lack of sustainability in sex work concern me — and it makes me think that maybe I just need to buckle down as a stripper!

    Any thoughts? Does anyone else worry so much about the state of things that they don't see any point in working at strip clubs anymore? Or do you think I'm just feeling that way because I'm paranoid the food will run out, the dollar will lose more value, oil will run out, etc. and I don't wanna be high and dry, in my forties and relying on a sex industry where people are even less willing to pay $20 for a dance?

    I'm also considering that inflation doesn't really do much for us as strippers or sex workers.

    I seriously don't even think I could pay state school tuition on my stripper income right now, and it's not just me.

    Sorry this is so long.
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    All I can say is I'm with you. Considering the same thing myself.

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    Completely understand your pov, and while I personally don't have the balls to escort, there is nothing wrong with it imo if you are comfortable. I feel alot of what you were talking about , and I certainly am having to make that moce from working 1-3 days a week for 1500-2000 to working 4 plus days for less money.

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    If you can make a guaranteed $1000 a day as an escort, fuck yeah, sign me up. I doubt you will though, the economy sucks all over and casual sex is too easy to get for free nowadays.

    Whatever you do, be safe. It's a dangerous business from both sides and you waive your right to police protection when you become a prostitute. They're just not interested in doing anything, and the sickos know that nothing will happen to them for hurting or even killing you. So be extremely careful and keep your wits about you.

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    As long as you can handle it go for it. It is a tempting idea, I have to admit, the gaurenteed money and all, but it wouldn't work for me. Good luck!

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    Its nice to see that ther'es more of us that ARE tempted by this. I'm kind of there myself. Think i'm too stupid to manage properly though.
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    anyone that isnt scared to escort, is definitely thinking about it. the economy is thee worst right now.

    i couldnt escort for personal reasons.

    but if you can mentally, physically, whatever-ally.. you got my vote.

    be safe!



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    Quote Originally Posted by needtodance View Post
    Its nice to see that ther'es more of us that ARE tempted by this. I'm kind of there myself. Think i'm too stupid to manage properly though.

    We should all start a legal brothel together!! A traveling one...someone quick..screw a high up politician so we can get the law passed to allow it!!

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    Ahahahaha i like that idea! Although I'd probably have just as much fun seeing if i could subliminally program them during our encounters. Surely if i mutter "RAISE MINIMUM WAGE RAISE MINIMUM WAGE" quickly and quietly enough while he's plugged in, it'll stick!



    edit.... shit i just realized how that sounded. I think thats the weirdest thing I've ever said.
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    if i could i would for sure i just dont have the mental power to deal with it, not to mention all the things that are required with the job. im sure you could mmake 1000 a day excorting ive heard of higher numbers then that. you wont get flamed for it here. not only that but we appreciate you keeping it out of the clubs!

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    It depends a LOT on the market you are in.

    I sell ads for a local newspaper for escorts. We are owned by/share resources with a paper in another city that also runs these ads. I also closely monitor websites discussing escort/hobby culture and CL***.

    Basically, the price of an ad here is half of the price of an ad in Seattle. That's what the market commands. And in New York City, the same ad space in similar distribution would cost 4x as much. It's reflected on paying websites such as eros.com -- you'll pay $200 more for a monthly online profile in a major city than you would here.

    Women in this town find it hard to offer FS for $200-250/hr. (Correct me if I'm wrong, Portlanders, but VIP hrs are in the same range if not a bit higher.) I see ads regularly advertising $80 hh/hr specials. Now a lot of this I am sure are from upsellers and ROBs -- but there's the simple fact that this field is as flattened by competition that it's hard to make a decent living doing it.

    I have no doubt it can be done. And I'm not one to say "$x isn't worth x" -- hell, I worked in Guam in situations apparently many strippers would find reprehensible and it was totally worth it for me.

    I'm just urging you to do your research and make sure your financial ambitions are in line with your earning potential.

    Good luck.

    ***BTW, in Portland at least, they now require LANDLINE VERIFICATION in order to post on Craigslist Erotic Services. This is probably related to concerns about underage sex trade, but it's also affected the safety and anonymity of CL quite a bit.


    ...I also wanted to add that since I'm now a salaried employee at a low stress job with great benefits, I make about as much money after taxes as I did dancing in this city 3-4 days a week. I can look at my excel spreadsheets and I'm pretty much even. It's just that working within a paycheck system and with personal finance education, I've become much more adept at handling my money, setting up retirement accounts and investing, etc.

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    I guess it depends on how much you need to make. Yes, my money has gone down, but I still make more stripping than in a regular job. It still pays the bills with quite a bit to spare.

    I can't comment on the escorting thing because I have no idea how much it pays. If the money is good and you are comfortable doing it, then go for it. But if you are considering it because you don't think there is good money to be made stripping, go back to the club and work for a month to see how it is. I think you'll find that you can still make what you need dancing.

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    ^^depends on WHERE you are too. In a lot of places now...you'd make more at McDonalds then in the club a lot of nights. And even on "good" nights...it doesnt even out. It's why a lot of us are exploring options to get the hell out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CKXXX View Post
    ^^depends on WHERE you are too. In a lot of places now...you'd make more at McDonalds then in the club a lot of nights. And even on "good" nights...it doesnt even out. It's why a lot of us are exploring options to get the hell out.
    Well, yeah, it is different everywhere. Where are you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andygirl View Post
    Well, yeah, it is different everywhere. Where are you?
    I travel a lot. Havent found money yet.

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    I also understand your POV.

    I couldn't because of personal reasons but if I could I might. The only downfall is the super low rates I see. A couple girls I know do it, one is $400/h the other $150/h...the latter gets more appointments but in all reality both girls are making about the same per week. And it isn't too much more than dancers right now. But there is no hustling or 2AM bar times.

    This is not to say you CAN'T make good money in that industry, because you really can. Some markets are just flooded with escorts, just like dancers. This economy has changed many a housewife into a private entertainer. And just like stripping, escorting has its highs and lows too. Mine only gripe about escorting is that lately you have to deal with more of the $80-$100/h girls.

    If you can do it, I say try it - you can always go back to dancing if you don't see a huge difference in income.

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    Like everyone else said thanks for being honest! It sounds like you have some objections about escorting though. Your right times are tough right now. I have to work more days to make the same money I did a couple of years ago. I'm still surviving though above average. So I think there is a chance that you could step up your game and/or move clubs where you could work and make enough to pay your bills. Would you still want to escort if stripping was paying the bills? Like someone else said the economy is bad for everyone and that includes people paying for sex and people selling sex. Prices are lower so I wouldn't be so confident making 1000 every night. Ultimately it's your body so you need to do what makes you feel safe and happy. So good luck and stay safe!

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    I say travel to the money too. Its what I do. Go were theres conventions, golf or when there is some type of event. You can still make 700-1000 if you go were the money is. I see so many girls complain and I tell them to travel here or there or hell come with me and they all have excuses cant leave boyfriend etc its unbelievable.

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    Hey Cherry, check your PM.

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    Heh this thread has be looking up all the info on the nevada brothels... hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...... I wonder if its any good. I really could use a change, getting SOOOO burnt out!
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    So far so good on the replies being respectful ( yippie!!!) but knowing how many of my fellow strippers feel about escorting, I'd like to toss out the idea of this topic being moved to the other other work section- just to be sure things stay positive in this topic.
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    I totally understand how you feel...thought about it myself. Pretty sure I don't have the balls to do it though.
    I think a lot of girls (strippers) are feeling the same way these days, especially with this economy. Less money in the clubs, girls doing extras left and right.
    Shit, with some of the girls I see in the club crosing the stripper/escort line for a $20 dance...I wanna tell them to go out an work on their own!!
    I would however, worry about safety. So if you do go for it, be careful!
    P.S. On an side note, I actually had a guy friend (straight) ask me for advice on being a male prostitute. For guys or women. I guess the ecomomy is bad for stockbrokers too!
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    I wouldn't exactly call myself a subsistence stripper, but I definitely could have saved more in the last few years. I lived well, ate wherever I wanted, took vacations, and paid for school and other goals. It's definitely been a good thing in my life. I also did some occasional escorting through the internet, which wasn't a negative experience but definitely was something that I did not prefer to stripping. Lately, the decline in my income is making me want to either step up my game to super stripper, work 6 nights a week and save every penny...or just work as an escort. Hope I don't get flamed for this, but I'm really, really scared about the economy, and if I know I could make a guaranteed $1000 a day and mentally/physically handle the sex work, I'd rather just do that and leave stripping behind. I'm starting to think in survival mode, and I'm wondering if anyone else is feeling similarly. I know there are many super strippers on here who do great and are preparing for an economic downturn in their own way, and I'm not trying to imply that the economic woes are driving me to escorting or driving anyone else to escorting as if that was a negative. I'm just wondering if anyone else has considered these things.

    For a while I liked stripping because I thought, "Wow, this is awesome because I don't have do [insert sexual action here] with the customer and I still get paid hundreds per night!" It's because I started out as an escort at 18 and didn't really understand that there were other options.

    Stripping has lost its appeal because I feel like if I'm going to be working, why not make a guaranteed amount per hour. And if the US economy is really going down the toilet, I feel like if I'm comfortable escorting, dancing would just be a waste of my time. It's a numbers game, and as an escort, the money is guaranteed and the demand is super high. Why work more for less, if you're going to work a certain number of hours? Obviously an hour stripping is not an hour escorting, though...

    I find that when I'm at the strip club, I'm unfocused and I have trouble "accepting" that what I there to do is actually sell lap dances. The whole routine is boring to me. Sure, it's great when I have one customer that spends a ton, but that's just happening rarely for me. It's pretty scary actually.

    I seem to have already made up my mind, I guess. The idea of going back to escorting doesn't make me sad; rather, the guaranteed money, demand and freedom makes me feel relieved. However, I feel like escorting is very lonely and sort of hollow. I feel like I can't talk to anyone about it.

    I'm going in to work at a club tonight after I get my hair colored and cut, and I'm hoping that I can give it my all. I am struggling with my decisions right now. On one hand, the state of the world and my life makes me want to buckle down and be a sex worker. Do the work, get the money, use the money for education and savings, and not mess around with $100 shifts at the strip club. On the other hand, the obvious risks and lack of sustainability in sex work concern me — and it makes me think that maybe I just need to buckle down as a stripper!

    Any thoughts? Does anyone else worry so much about the state of things that they don't see any point in working at strip clubs anymore? Or do you think I'm just feeling that way because I'm paranoid the food will run out, the dollar will lose more value, oil will run out, etc. and I don't wanna be high and dry, in my forties and relying on a sex industry where people are even less willing to pay $20 for a dance?

    I'm also considering that inflation doesn't really do much for us as strippers or sex workers.

    I seriously don't even think I could pay state school tuition on my stripper income right now, and it's not just me.

    Sorry this is so long.
    is the demand for hookers really that high? you would think it would be hard to get clients willing to pay a resonable amount with all the free and super cheap sex available out there. i mean i assume you charge at least 300 an hour which is the average rate i think. i personally dont think its worth it considering you would need to fuck for 3 hours and probably do it with 3 different people to make 1k. then u have to think of the time spent advertising and exchanging emails and prescreening the person before you meet up, then the cost of testing and protection and the constant std scare and possible pregnancy scare, the risk of getting raped or killed, etc, etc. you have protection at a club that you dont have when you are independent hooking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msonyxorb View Post
    is the demand for hookers really that high?
    uhh its the worlds oldest profession, there will always be a high demand for pay for sex.

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    The economy is affecting just about everyone. While I feel for the dancers who are earning less now, my mind goes to the many people who are losing their homes, struggling to find a job after years of devotion in their profession, and those who are trying to support a family on under $10/hour or so. I say this not to be a jerk, but because I'm seeing dancers who are making $100 or so a shift and being COMPLETELY pissed. These dancers are upset because they can't finance outrageous living styles. I agree, we DESERVE MUCH more, but these are hard times, we will get through this, and things will come around again as they have during past downturns.

    I know I'm in the minority here, but escorting is very different from dancing, and I would have to be making a LOT more money than a $1000 a day-just to cover the possible physical, emotional, and social downturns that would possibly last a lifetime. The financial downturn is maybe a year or two, but to prostitute, you'll earn every single penny you earn and still be behind if you ask me. And, BTW, I know dancers who escort on the side (no judgement, and I'm kind of friends with one (she knows my opinion!)), and you ain't makin $1000 a day!!! It's more like $150 an hour...and you might not even get called but a couple times a week!

    Just my opinion, and I do wish you well. Sounds like you have experience, so you know what you're getting into. I just don't think you should decide to do it based solely on finances.

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