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    Lightbulb Changing the bad one stripper at a time

    I've been reading alot of SW the past couple days and have decided to contribute some positiveness!!

    I vow to help three (or more) strippers a year become better dancers/people.

    This year I have already helped one new girl stop being a total dumb ass bitch. I took a very naive young dancer who was doing all the wrong things, being dirty, sitting toooo long, ripping off customers, undercharging, talking shit about other girls, etc. and took her under my wing. I taught her what was acceptable behavior and how to hustle like a pro.
    I am now helping a dancer who has had a very hard time the past year. She's been in an abusive relationship with a jobless piece of shit, was very sick for a long time, broke her hand and is in major debt. I am giving her a place to stay rent and bill free to help her get back on her feet. I am also providing moral support and a stable life. (I have been very close friends with her for four years. I wouldn't open my home to a stranger). She wants to quit dancing and resume her schooling when she's out of debt. She will be able to do that with my help.

    Maybe if we all do alittle good we can all do alot better. Less Rants and more Love! What can you vow?

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    Default Re: Changing the bad one stripper at a time

    Quote Originally Posted by Gabrielle MB View Post

    I vow to help three (or more) strippers a year become better dancers/people.

    Hope that doesn't backfire....
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    ^What Sophia said.
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    I wish there was an "auto-like" setting that I could just have applied to all of your posts Sophia....

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    Default Re: Changing the bad one stripper at a time

    Unfortunately, I've had my hand bitten so I won't be doing that any time soon.
    “What a caterpillar calls the end of the world we call a butterfly.” - ECKHART TOLLE

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    ^^^ The saying is true. No good deed goes unpunished.

    Sorry for the NYC cynicism....
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    Jeez guys.. stomp all over my optomism.

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    Default Re: Changing the bad one stripper at a time

    I vow to help three (or more) strippers a year become better dancers/people.
    Personally that seems a little self righteous in my opinion. Maybe you should focus on yourself and not seek out people to "fix." I understand maybe you mean well but something about your statement really offended me.

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    Sorry I offended you. Totally not my intention. I'm really wishing I kept my 'good' idea to myself.
    I'm a firm believer that if youre not willing to do something about it, don't complain. Less rants more love... was my point. I didn't realize I would be considered 'self righteous'. I'm not trying to 'fix' anyone. I said 'help'. I am in a better position in life then some, and worse then some others. If I can help, I'm going to.
    Maybe if less people focused on themselves...

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    I think it's a great idea. I only meant it hasn't worked out for me. A few girls I've helped have taken that kindness for weakness. One began to speak to me in a commanding and deragatory fashion. One came to me to be cheered up and encouraged and then tried to mindfuck me out of confidence MY confidence. Another took my friendship as something to exploit and would sit and try to steal my customers.

    It's an unpleasant fact that some people take kindness for weakness. However, I do think it's a great idea when applied judiciously.
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    Default Re: Changing the bad one stripper at a time

    I think it's just your wording that's getting to people, because I think that teaching a girl the ropes and giving a girl a place to stay and helping her get back on her feet are both very kind things. I totally understand the cynicism because of being burned in the past, but the world could stand to have a few more positive people like that.

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    I've had people give me a hand up many times.
    I've been burnt many times before, too.
    I'm not going to stop doing for and onto others as I would have them do onto me. Even if they shit on me. I believe in karma.
    I read the 'When did this become acceptable' thread where everyone is commenting on crappy customers who are proudly broke and dancers who give it all away. My thoughts were that if we all did alittle to move in the right direction it wouldn't be such a rough industry. It's easier to do nothing and complain then to be proactive. I was hoping that others would be motivated. Not insulted.

    This is why my post count is so low. This is acctually my second user name. I was LollipopGirl for a couple years before this current user name. My post count was real low then, too. I love SW and have learned alot from it and have been extremely entertained by it. But, there's so much negativity, I'm hesitant to contribute.
    Like I said before, I wish I had kept my mouth shut. I'm still going to do what I do.

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    i think what youre doing is great! but do not get so wrapped up in your hospitality that you forget about yourself. just remember that most people are looking out for #1...especially in this day and age. stay strong and i think this will work out well

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    Default Re: Changing the bad one stripper at a time

    sometime sif i see a girl that reminds me of me when i first started dancing ill show her all the "secrets" to making good money, but its rare. why help your competition?

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    The point to help the new girl was because she was doing things that were hurting (my) business.

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    ahh i see. most of the time, its an effort in futility. if they have never dnced before you might be able to sway them the right way, if they are set in their ways though, good luck!

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    My little piece of stripper-improvement comes naturally for me. Everybody where I work knows that I DO NOT gossip. I hardly even talk to the other girls, let alone deal in rumors or anything.

    One thing I'm really good at is listening to people though. I have a talent for sitting down, shutting up, letting people asplode to me, and then maybe offering an outsiders view of whats up without clouding it with major oppinions or judgements. I never give my personal two cents, I will only help organise and condense what I have been told in hopes of making it a little easier to figure out. I will only give my oppinion if asked.

    God knows many strippers have plenty of drama so I figure just by being someone to talk to without fear of your personal life being spread all over the club is the best way I can help other people. My ears are open to anyone who needs them male, female, somewhere in between, and in any position at the club including that of customer.

    I have been privvy to many a confession, freak out, and general bitching. I'm a treasure trove of sordid details that would make the ears of any gossip monger burn, but none of it will ever see the light of day because I hold other people's confidence in exactly the way I would hope they treat mine, with absolute security. To add to the measures of security, I make sure that all of my actions and words in the club and in fact on that particular block of Denver (everybody knows everybody on 15th between Stout and Champa, lol) are absolutely squeaky clean. If I myself am gossip-proof, then I know nobody will talk about me and i won't have to get involves with anything and thus jepordise anything I know about other people.
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    Default Re: Changing the bad one stripper at a time

    This seems self-righteous and codependent. One of the great things about SW is that it is an outlet to vent.

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    I dont' think I have the time or patience to help the girls at my club..one girl at a time.

    What I will be doing though is printing out papers in bold saying DO YOU WONDER WHY YOU'RE BROKE or DON'T SIT FOR FREE ]followed by some quotes to put these girls in perspective and get them on board for re-training these customers.







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    Quote Originally Posted by AmArticia View Post
    I hardly even talk to the other girls, let alone deal in rumors or anything.
    It's funny...I've been working at my current club for a little over a year. At least once per week I get a girl asking me if I'm new..."Nope" I say..."I just keep out the bs"







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    The idea of want to help some one is admirable, it's just so easy to get burned by someone, especially in this business. I'ts happened to me many a time.

    The last girl I tried to help was someone I knew that waitressed at another club I worked at. I gave her advice, told her which girls to stay away from. She didn't listen, ended up hanging out with this one stupid bitch, got all wrapped in doing drugs, leaving with custies. She finally had a scare that has put her back in normal mode. I really want to tell her "told you so".

    Sometimes it's just not worth the effort.

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    The other night I actually was giving some unnecessary sass to some people who probably didn't deserve it. They asked me an inane question as I was going by and I basically ignored them and basically said, I'll answer that when you buy me a dance, and some dude overheard and said, hey, come over here. He bought a couple of dances, but then said, "siddown, I need to tell you something." Basically he said, "look, I know you're new here, and you're fucking hot, but you need to lose the attitude. That was my friend you were talking to. Attitude does not look good on you, and that guy, he is not cheap, believe me. He will spend hundreds on you if he likes you. Hell, I like you, that's why I'm telling you this. I think you'll do really good here, so take my advice and calm down. Don't dance, I know it's late and you've been working really hard, I see you, but be good. Smile and nod, and be sincere. You seem like a good, kind person, so use that to your advantage." And then he bought me a drink and I gave him a kiss. I wasn't even really aware that I was being snippy, I mean, I was in a shitty mood, and I have to remember that no matter how good-looking and business-like I am, these guys probably don't want to be reminded of how I exist for them only in stripper fantasy land and I'm thinking about my rent beneath the polished facade. Yeah, it's obvious but sometimes I get into money money money head space and I forget the long-term focus.

    But I really appreciated his perspective. I know that if I spend too much time in the dressing room it'll be full of bitching about smelly and stupid customers, and it really, really served as a good reminder about the customer-service aspect of the biz.

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