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    All right..

    I rarely have problems at my club. Generally, the customers are nice and understand the whole "If you're at the rail, you have to tip" rule.

    But last night was one of those nights where I had a couple of groups of guys who looked totally normal (30's, business-ish), who sat at the stage for my entire show and seemed to enjoy it.

    I did the typical 'dance for 5 seconds, then kneel for tip' thing. Coupled that with "Hey there! How's it goin?" The guy answered "Great!" etc. So I held out my thong to take the assumed tip.

    No reaction. So I said "all right...would you rather put it someplace less interesting?" in a cute voice, and held out my garter. He didn't react.

    His buddies looked like they didn't give a shit, either. (Usually if one guy is being a douche, some guy in the group will contribute a dollar to compensate). They all looked at me like they were behaving normally.

    Then I said "Do you guys have a dollar for me?" (Again, cute voice). NO REACTION.

    These guys all looked sober and generally nice. What should I have done? I ended up saying something sarcastic like "You guys sure are a fun group!" and walked off. But it still got to me. I didn't tell the bouncers or anything--that would be really melodramatic IMO.

    How do you guys deal when this happens???

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    I've never had it happen like that. They probably thought of it before they went in. Otherwise they stoooopid.

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    How stupid. They should have a sign somewhere or something that says if you are going to sit at the rail, you have to tip. The nerve!

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    hmm...After doing everything you did, I would have said, you do know it's customary to tip if your sitting here. that's why it's called a tip rail. :wink, nudge, hint

    if they still ignored or did nothing, I would have said, oh, ok. I gues syour just sitting here to fill seats, not actually watch a hot woman.

    Then turn my back on them very dramaticially, and dance with my back to them the rest of my stage.

    Make a large production of dacing for other guys, getting tips from everyoen else and as my stage is over, walk past the nontippers and say see? You gotta pay to play. they had a lot more fun than you did.

    * Iwould do it this way because at my club, your not allowed to kick nontippers off the stage.
    At my old club, we could kick them off. and in that case, I would tell the guys. " You must tip to sit here. If you are refusing to tip, please exit the seat and find somewhere away from the tiprail to take up space"

    or...You can always go with the crowd humuliation. When guy refuses to tip start to put yoru clothes back on. Shrug at the rest of the guys sitting at the stage and say sorry guys. these guys refuse to tip and I can't get naked unless everyone sitting here is tippign me. so these guys ruined it for all of you.
    Usually the rest of the guys sitting at the stage are gunna yell at the nonti[[ers for you, or give you extra tips to compensate so you keep dancing.

    depends on the crowd how to handle it...

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    Well, my club let's me be bitchy without repercussions, so I stand on the stage and make it blatantly obvious that I'm pissed and that I won't dance for free. Or the lucky guys who are tipping get extra special attention while I stay far away from the non-tippers.

    I mean I generally try to not act all princessy, but in the situation like you described I'd have probably done that.

    Edited: You know I just reread that they were actually at your rack. That really pisses me off. In that case I would have told them, "You know to sit in these seats you're expected to tip".
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    All right...so it doesn't sound like I reacted too badly, considering what you guys are saying...


    Do you have any insight into why they would've done this? Like...what's the point?

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    ^^ Lol!!

    My club is definitely not upscale, but I really, really don't want to throw bitchfits because that'd be such a huge turnoff to the other customers! (Suddenly, the sweet pretty girl becomes Godzilla when denied $1....not good)

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    I had a guy do this to me recently...I danced away from him, and ignored him the rest of the night. Not a good thing to do on a regular basis, but this guy knew better.Just don't dance for them again...if they saw other men tipping you while you were dancing, how could they not pick up the hint?

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    i tell them that if they sit at the stage and dont tip, they have to leave and its club policy. sometimes it works sometimes it doesnt.

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    Unfortunately, you can't get water from a stone. If these guys had it in their head they weren't going to tip you, chalk it up to bad timing and move on. All you can do really...ya know? Save your energy for the paying customers...
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    That sucks! I would hope that humanity has not dipped to a new low. Perhaps these customers had just arrived and had not had a waitress able to get them change yet?...........Or perhaps they were Canadians who do not know about tipping(cause their dancers are paid by the club.) All in all that sucks that the whole group was like that. There must be an excuse. Humanity has NOT sunk to this low.

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    the only explanation i can fathom (other than being retarded) is that these guys were not from america. i've noticed european guys don't know they are supposed to tip...not sure why this is but in that case i don't take it personally but if they didn't have an accent i would have told my dj to publicly humiliate them in front of the rest of the club by saying something like, "are you guys stuck to the chairs or do you need directions to the boy bar across town?"

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    ^^ I don't know. "do you guys have a dollar for me" is pretty clear.

    The non-tippers who were staring at my tits 45 seconds ago are annoying. You did everything you could. At that point, move on as graciuosly as you can. A dollar shouldn't make or break your night.
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    This reminds me of Yek's "When did this become acceptable" thread. I remember from my earliest strip-clubbing days that the customer had to have their tip out in front of them *before* the dancer would come up & dance for them. (Granted, my earliest strip-clubbing days were before table/lap dancing, so the only way the dancers made money was from stage.) In fact, at one of my first SC hangouts, the main stage had a separate rail with no seats, where a customer could basically "jump the queue" and have the dancer dance for them before the others sitting at the rail (and of course, you'd have to tip more than $1 to stand there).

    So from early on, I was conditioned that in order to get someone's attention in a SC, you had to be ready to pay for it.
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    that happened to me once and the guy told me he didn't think he had to tip because he paid the cover to get into the club already. I told him he still does. He kind of laughed at me. So I told the guy to leave the club and he did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Oceans View Post
    I was conditioned that in order to get someone's attention in a SC, you had to be ready to pay for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Oceans View Post
    This reminds me of Yek's "When did this become acceptable" thread. I remember from my earliest strip-clubbing days that the customer had to have their tip out in front of them *before* the dancer would come up & dance for them. (Granted, my earliest strip-clubbing days were before table/lap dancing, so the only way the dancers made money was from stage.) In fact, at one of my first SC hangouts, the main stage had a separate rail with no seats, where a customer could basically "jump the queue" and have the dancer dance for them before the others sitting at the rail (and of course, you'd have to tip more than $1 to stand there).

    So from early on, I was conditioned that in order to get someone's attention in a SC, you had to be ready to pay for it.
    No kidding. I guess I just tend to automatically expect that people will be civil to one another (assuming they aren't drunk or something)...so when something like this happens, it really boggles my mind. Silly me.

    Coming to a SC is like playing a game--it doesn't work when someone starts changing the rules.

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    MMMMMMM stonewallers fucking rake my nerves. You guys mentioned some really great ways to handle these jerk offs. seriously they are f-ing jerkoffs and it's sooo hard to handle them like a lady. I Kicked a guy once cause it was wicked busy and there weren't any seats on the stage and when I opened my garter he looked at me and F-ing rolled his eyes and turrned back to the tv! So first I nudged his head with my shoe and pulled my garter and when he did it again i fucking shoved his head with my heel. The fucker didn't even look at me that time. so I got wicked melodramatic, walked off of stage and told the bouncer i wouldn't go back on unless he wasn't there anymore. LOL you all are LADYS compared to me that night!

    In retrospect it's MUCH better to tell the bouncer if you can than to kick someone in the head... And thats what i learned. : )

    ..... but then again it's much better to do all the stuff you guys said before going to the bouncer

    And damn that sucks not being able to kick non-tippers off the stage! But at least it forces you to find better solutions to handling guys like that so it's kind of good in a way.

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    I tease them.

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    ^^^ Describe your teasing methods!!

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    Depending on my mood I will either lecture them, or flip them off.. not classy I know but sometimes I just don't care.


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    I get a lot of douches who do think it's funny to do this. Whenever the guys at the tiprail refuse to tip me, I either put my clothes back on or climb to the top of the pole and sit there and pout.
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    ^^^ Lol this sounds so cute! Like a little monkey, sitting on the pole...

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    Quote Originally Posted by charlie61 View Post
    All right..

    I rarely have problems at my club. Generally, the customers are nice and understand the whole "If you're at the rail, you have to tip" rule.

    But last night was one of those nights where I had a couple of groups of guys who looked totally normal (30's, business-ish), who sat at the stage for my entire show and seemed to enjoy it.

    I did the typical 'dance for 5 seconds, then kneel for tip' thing. Coupled that with "Hey there! How's it goin?" The guy answered "Great!" etc. So I held out my thong to take the assumed tip.

    No reaction. So I said "all right...would you rather put it someplace less interesting?" in a cute voice, and held out my garter. He didn't react.

    His buddies looked like they didn't give a shit, either. (Usually if one guy is being a douche, some guy in the group will contribute a dollar to compensate). They all looked at me like they were behaving normally.

    Then I said "Do you guys have a dollar for me?" (Again, cute voice). NO REACTION.

    These guys all looked sober and generally nice. What should I have done? I ended up saying something sarcastic like "You guys sure are a fun group!" and walked off. But it still got to me. I didn't tell the bouncers or anything--that would be really melodramatic IMO.

    How do you guys deal when this happens???
    were they tipping the other girls? some guys get mad when girls flat out ask for tips. maybe thats what happened.
    usually when i see a guy doing this and its the end of the song and he still hasnt tipped or i notice that hes not tipping anyone i tell him straight out that the tip rail is for tipping customers only and this usually makes them get up and leave.

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    One of the girls stayed by the group for her entire set and got two dollars out of them...so if you'd count that as success, then maybe you're right.

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