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    I suppose that between those who wouldn't do the briefest boob flash for $1,000, and those who would have sex with anyone, anytime, for $1, there are a thousand places to draw the line on what one would do, in the realm of "sex", for money. Obviously, those on here draw the lines differently from each other (I've seen spirited discussions), but probably, on average, deeper into the "sex" realm than the average girl.

    And my question is, are you judgmental of those who go further than you, for money? Whatever "further" means to you. Why or why not? And if so, on what basis?

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    only if they are breaking the clubs rules.

    im pro legalization of prostitution, even if i would not do it myself.

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    ^^
    Agreed. Don't break club rules and I dont care what u do.
    Prostitution is legal in Melbourne which I entirely agree with. It makes dancing in Melbourne great because there is a clear division between strip clubs and brothels. While I would never engage in prostitution myself, I think it's a service that benefits the community.
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    Ehh i really try NOT to judge people. But im only human, and occasionally i find myself judging and i make a mental note to cut it out!

    But to answer your question, would i judge someone for doing something more sexual than myself for $$?? I really think it would depend on the situation,.
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    Quote Originally Posted by i.breathe.in View Post
    only if they are breaking the clubs rules.

    im pro legalization of prostitution, even if i would not do it myself.
    Yep. What consenting adults do on their own time has no affect on me. Therefore I do not care.

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    I'm all for prostitution, and for doing what you want when you want and for however much you want.
    The only time I really judge people when they have the opportunity to make more money off of what they're doing, and don't.
    But really that's more judgemental of them being stupid than them doing something I disagree with or whatever.

    As an escort, at our agency we have some clients who always have tons of money and are willing to tip big amounts for services, and they do everything for like $200. If all the other girls can get five or six bills for this, you probably can too, so why DON'T you?
    I've done calls with those girls, too, where they start their tips super low. I just don't GET it. (plus then it fucks with MY money.)

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    As with the others, I have no problem as long as it's not in the club. There are girls at I've worked with who will do extras for little to nothing more than the price of a LD, that's just stupid to me. If you're gonna do it at least get paid and paid well for it.

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    I don't care. I work in a very high mileage club, where anything goes. I very rarely even let guys touch my boobs while girls in the next room are giving blow jobs. It was pretty funny the other day - a dancer offered me a sip of her drink and when I sipped from the glass instead of the straw she goes, "It's okay! I don't give head or nothing!" :rofl:

    But a lot of the girls do. I'm still friendly with all of them. And they're really sweet and cool. And so far, I don't think they hurt my money that much. I'm almost kinda glad they do that stuff, it means the customers usually have a lot of money, and they don't get pissy when I won't do anything. They know they can just "dance" with a different girl for it.

    We also have "boudries" in the club. Certain VIPs are for extras, and the dancers pay more to use those rooms. The cheap rooms are for normal dances.

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    I really don't care as long as people are discreet and it's taken OTC.
    Not in the club though, because then extras will be expected from every dancer. The club will end up losing their good girls

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    Nope, I generally am not judgmental of them as long as they aren't of me. I see it this way, everyone has their own comfort level, I know mine, and it's not my job or place to tell someone else what theirs is. The only time I have an issue is if they are doing something out of line at my work (i.e. fucking custies in the club, etc.), and then it's not against the act specifically, but against the girls judgment in when/where they are doing it.

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    i am also of the "as long as it's not in my club" opinion.

    as long as no one is getting hurt, i don't see a problem with it. of course, in a lot of cases the guy has a wife at home who has no idea, and i think that's really shitty. however, i don't think the prostitute is responsible for that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Susan-Va View Post
    As with the others, I have no problem as long as it's not in the club. There are girls at I've worked with who will do extras for little to nothing more than the price of a LD, that's just stupid to me. If you're gonna do it at least get paid and paid well for it.
    I've thought about this, and I think they don't seek prostitute status/wages because they are in denial and don't want to admit they are prostitutes. I think guys who come to clubs seeking extras are in denial that they are johns. Just dancers giving dances and customers receiving.

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    I agree with Jaizaine, as long as you don't break club rules I don't have a problem with how girls make the $$$.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Everyman View Post
    I suppose that between those who wouldn't do the briefest boob flash for $1,000, and those who would have sex with anyone, anytime, for $1, there are a thousand places to draw the line on what one would do, in the realm of "sex", for money....

    For $1? Why bother? I guess you mean a few bucks like street gals.

    I wonder how many dancers on SW think that (sometimes with some people) sex has NO equivalent in terms of money.

    What interests most men( I believe) is a gal who makes sex equivalent to pleasure, fun and affection, apart from the money issues in running her business. So I'd guess I've been right that there is no hope for me with a dancer. I bring this up not about me, but as a general social issue.
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    I loved going to strip clubs; I actually made some friends there. Now things are different for the clubs and for me. As a result I am not as happy.

    Customers are not entitled to grope, disrespect, or rob strippers. This is their job, not their hobby, and they all need income. Clubs are not just some erotic show for guys to view while drinking.

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    I feel as if what other women do to make their money is none of my business. In fact I'd much rather not even know about it.
    I agree that it'd be much better to keep prostitution out of the strip clubs.... but I can't say that I really agree with women exchanging sex for money. I try not to judge anyone... ever. but it happens... and when a girl tells me she has sex for money I can't help but look at her differently. I won't treat anyone disrespectfully based on what they do in their personal life that doesn't affect me at all... I just simply can't help but see them in a different light.

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    Quote Originally Posted by threlayer View Post
    What interests most men( I believe) is a gal who makes sex equivalent to pleasure, fun and affection, apart from the money issues in running her business. So I'd guess I've been right that there is no hope for me with a dancer. I bring this up not about me, but as a general social issue.


    I'm not flaming you or anything, but just for curiosities sake can you clarify the bottom part of your post? Are you saying you could never date a dancer because she equates sex with money? Or...what?? I just don't get the way it was worded.

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    ^^ I'm saying that I believe most men would not go very far with a woman who believes that she is entitled to money for sexual activities. Even informally. I believe that (out of the club) on the same equi-sexual basis as stated above, he is also entitled to money for services, so is he. Since it is theoretically a standoff, just drop the money-for-sex equivalence. And I mean sex in tevery broad sense.

    It is us pervert guys who allow this to happen (and well beyond the dancing thing) that has created a class of women who operate in this manner. This has resulted in an industry which is not entirely good.

    Hey, I like trying to make people think beyond their conventional avenues.
    I loved going to strip clubs; I actually made some friends there. Now things are different for the clubs and for me. As a result I am not as happy.

    Customers are not entitled to grope, disrespect, or rob strippers. This is their job, not their hobby, and they all need income. Clubs are not just some erotic show for guys to view while drinking.

    NOTE: anything I post here, outside of a direct quote, is my opinion only, which I am entitled to. Take it for what you estimate it is worth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by veronicachick View Post
    I feel as if what other women do to make their money is none of my business. In fact I'd much rather not even know about it.
    I agree that it'd be much better to keep prostitution out of the strip clubs.... but I can't say that I really agree with women exchanging sex for money. I try not to judge anyone... ever. but it happens... and when a girl tells me she has sex for money I can't help but look at her differently. I won't treat anyone disrespectfully based on what they do in their personal life that doesn't affect me at all... I just simply can't help but see them in a different light.
    You do realize, Veronica, that society as a whole judges you along those same lines. It really doesn't matter how strict or liberal you are with your customers, you are going to be viewed a certain way because you are willing to go to a level the average woman is not.
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    I'm in favor of legalizing and *regulating* prostitution.

    Human trafficking is a problem -- intrusion on other areas of sex work (like ours) is a problem. I'd like to see a system where it's all so far above board that none of this shit happens.

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    Judging women = putting women on the defensive. Pointless.

    Plus it's none of our business.

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    Yes I am. I judge women who go farther than club rules because that's ruining the level money-making potential for everyone else at the club.

    However, girls who do things outside of the club don't bug me much. It doesn't effect my money, so I don't care about that. I do sometimes worry that they're going a bit far for the wrong reasons, but that's something they have to sort out. Prostitution itself doesn't bother me at all. I just don't like when I follow rules that other chicks don't, so I suddenly make less money for not wanting to break the law.

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