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    MINEOLA, Texas (June 22) - In the windowless front rooms of a former day care center in a tiny Texas community, children as young as 5 were fed powerful painkillers they knew as "silly pills" and forced to perform sex shows for a crowd of adults.

    Two people have already been convicted in the case. Now a third person with ties to the club, previously known in town only as a swingers group.



    WTF?!? This is so awful, I don't even have the words to express how disgusted I am after reading this news bit.
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    Oh my God!! That's DISGUSTING...I can't believe stuff like this actually happens.

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    Wow, and crowds of 50 to 100 people watched?

    That's a hundred people that need to be shot.
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    Absolutely disgusting.

    They should be shot on the spot.

    Way to fuck up the next generation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alia_of_the_Knife View Post
    Wow, and crowds of 50 to 100 people watched?

    That's a hundred people that need to be shot.

    We posted at the same time. lol

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    Nail their scrotums to a log, set it on fire, then give them a sharp knife. THEN, they can be shot as they come out of the smoke.

    But no punishment will undo the damage done to those four young minds. This went on how long? And nobody knew? You betcha.

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    I'm confused as to how this is a swingers club. It sounds more like a cult. I didn't see any reference to the true definition of a Swinger. Hell, it was in a daycare. I don't see how swingers had anything to do with this.
    As to the actual situation. That is fucked up all the way around.

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    i don't get it... how is looking at a child arousing??

    there is someone i know, who's gf found a dvd of kiddie porn in his stuff. i can't bring myself to talk to him now. she told me what was on it, and i am disgusted that he gets an orgasm watching that. fucking gross.

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    Definitely not swingers, but way to paint us all with the evil brush.

    I'm not sure I believe this story. It just sounds so bizarre, like the McMartin preschool case and the Michaels case at that day care. I'd definitely want to see some evidence before I'd believe it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yekhefah View Post
    Definitely not swingers, but way to paint us all with the evil brush.

    I'm not sure I believe this story. It just sounds so bizarre, like the McMartin preschool case and the Michaels case at that day care. I'd definitely want to see some evidence before I'd believe it.
    I'm also skeptical. I'm not saying that some type of abuse didn't happen, but the media and law enforcement tend to embellish child abuse stories. Like Yekhefa points out, this is what happened in the McMartin case and almost certainly the Friedman case. The comment about 50 to 100 people watching the show seems outlandish IMO.

    Still though, child abuse is no less worse if it happens once or many times over, or to one child or more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ajbaer View Post
    I'm confused as to how this is a swingers club. It sounds more like a cult. I didn't see any reference to the true definition of a Swinger. Hell, it was in a daycare. I don't see how swingers had anything to do with this.
    I don’t know either. I guess it’s how they defined themselves- probably as a cover- up tactic for what they were really doing there. Also I think it was at a former daycare not a current one.
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    Default Re: TX Swingers club drugged & force kids into sex shows

    Uh yeaaaaaaaaah....

    That's definitly not a swingers club.



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    Leading to the embellishment part

    "Newman, who can see the building from her office window, said she remembers the parking lot filling up with more than a dozen cars at night."

    Lets say 2 cars brought the kids... that leaves 10 cars... I highly doubt friends and so's were going to the show so about 10 people watching the shows. That doesnt make it any better but shows some embellishment...

    Thats sick tho. They said its been closed since 2004 and this happened when it WAS a daycare... so sad.

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    It's time to read some Andrew Vachss (rhymes with "tax"), folks!

    Andrew Vachss is a New York crime fiction author and attorney who represents children and youths. He also founded PROTECT: The National Association to Protect Children. His novels are actually well-written (IMO) and basically revolve around a vigilante character named Burke who stalks and punishes pedophiles--typically by maiming or killing them.

    In fact, I know an Assistant District Attorney in a California city who prosecutes pedophiles and reads Vachss novels for stress relief...

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    OK, I read this because it said swingers, but I don't think they know what swingers are. It said nothing that describes any swingers I know... and I know a lot of swingers It doesn't imply that there were couples or that the attendees were interested in each other - which makes sense because clearly the sick fucks were turned on by drugged children performing sex acts for a crowd. I don't know why the town or the media are relating this disgusting story to swingers.

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    In my life, I have stumbled into two child porn sites. I reported both to the police. The second one was a message board for a student group at a major university in another state. I called police and university officials in two states for two weeks, and then one day the board was gone.

    No, I will not tell you what images I saw. Trust me, you do not want to know. The memory still haunts me.

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    Ugh, and they were SIBLINGS?! Extra gross.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brooke View Post
    OK, I read this because it said swingers, but I don't think they know what swingers are. It said nothing that describes any swingers I know... and I know a lot of swingers It doesn't imply that there were couples or that the attendees were interested in each other - which makes sense because clearly the sick fucks were turned on by drugged children performing sex acts for a crowd. I don't know why the town or the media are relating this disgusting story to swingers.
    ^ By my reckoning, the word "swinger(s)" was used 3 times in the article, as follows:

    1) Now a third person with ties to the club, previously known in town only as a swingers group, is set to go on trial Monday not far from Mineola, population 5,100.

    2) Doris Newman, editor of The Mineola Monitor, said rumors of swinger parties spread around town but that no one mentioned children being involved.

    3) In August 2004, an editorial under the headline "Sex In the City" opined that if the swingers left quietly, "we'll try and forget they've infiltrated our town with their set of moral standards."


    To any rational being, the concepts of swinging and pedophilia typically aren't interchangeable. However, Paul J. Webber of the Associated Press constructed that insidious association by using the term "swinger(s)" repeatedly as though it were the word "pedophile".

    What's truly fucked up is that the words "molestation" and "pedophile" are completely absent from the article, leaving only references to swinging and blatantly criminal behavior for narrow minds to lump together...

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    Again as I understand things, “swingers” was how the group defined themselves. It was not the town who gave them that id it was the other way around. It also seems to me that they did so as a cover-up tactic. I'm guessing as an attempt to get the towns people to look the other way as effectively as they could while still holding “club” events.

    It’s also possible that they were “swingers” as well as pedophiles. Who knows. It would be weird though and certainly not representative of swingers in general. They were sickos that is all we know for sure.

    Also to the dozen cars doesn't equal 50 to 100 people point mentioned in this discussion, I believe if I understood this news bit properly that these disgusting pedophile events happened a number of times so that's probably where they got the high number of persons attending these events. It may have also come from testimony in court, I’m not sure.
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    It still sounds like McMartin and Michaels to me. I hope for the kids that nothing really happened, but I hope for the accused that something did. I'm torn between concern for the kids and concern for the people accused of such an outlandish crime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LadyLuck View Post
    Again as I understand things, “swingers” was how the group defined themselves. It was not the town who gave them that id it was the other way around. It also seems to me that they did so as a cover-up tactic. I'm guessing as an attempt to get the towns people to look the other way as effectively as they could while still holding “club” events.
    ^ I agree with you, LL...

    However, what concerns me is how the Associated Press wrote the story in a manner that downplayed Mineola pedophiles using the swinger subculture as a camouflage for their activities.

    I try to avoid underestimating the reactive gullibility of the American public. IMO, any conservative bonehead could justifiably conclude after reading this article that pedophilia was common at swinger events outside Mineola.

    Why don't we just add swingers to the list of priests, teachers, coaches and Boy Scout troop leaders as stereotypical offenders?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Budai View Post
    Why don't we just add swingers to the list of priests, teachers, coaches and Boy Scout troop leaders as stereotypical offenders?
    Not to mention us strip club aficionados. Perverts. Every one of us.

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    I can't believe people would do such vile and disgusting acts on the innocent.
    The saddest part is that every year, 50 to 100 thousand women and children are trafficked into and around the United States to work as sex slaves. Internationally it would be 1 million. The victims are continually drugged and beaten to submission.

    These people are seriously damaging these poor kids. It's fucked up and I HATE hearing about it. I hate knowing that human trafficking is the 3rd largest international crime industry after drugs and weapons. To paraphrase what I read once for research.."You could buy a bag of blow and use it once, you could make one sale on a gun, but you can get 5, 10, 20, 50..sales on a human"

    I just don't understand why people would to this to others..



    Pedophiles are almost impossible to treat.


    There is a movie called - Trade- I think everyone should watch it. It's sad, you'll probably cry your eyes out, and get angry. But this is what is happening everyday to these children.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daniela View Post

    Pedophiles are almost impossible to treat.
    Yep. I remember many years ago there was an interview with a
    convicted pedophile in jail(I dont remember his name)
    He was getting out soon and was petitioning the court to castrate him(wsnt approved)
    He said that he has no control over it and given the chance he WILL do it again..he didnt WANT to..but he will.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daniela View Post
    I can't believe people would do such vile and disgusting acts on the innocent.
    The saddest part is that every year, 50 to 100 thousand women and children are trafficked into and around the United States to work as sex slaves. Internationally it would be 1 million. The victims are continually drugged and beaten to submission.

    These people are seriously damaging these poor kids. It's fucked up and I HATE hearing about it. I hate knowing that human trafficking is the 3rd largest international crime industry after drugs and weapons. To paraphrase what I read once for research.."You could buy a bag of blow and use it once, you could make one sale on a gun, but you can get 5, 10, 20, 50..sales on a human"

    I just don't understand why people would to this to others..



    Pedophiles are almost impossible to treat.


    There is a movie called - Trade- I think everyone should watch it. It's sad, you'll probably cry your eyes out, and get angry. But this is what is happening everyday to these children.
    This is true.

    As for OP article, I'm skeptical...There was a similar case in California in the 1980s...The allegations were most probably fabricated by a crazy woman with an agenda.....She got the kids in question to make claims about their daycare providers. Some of the accused went to prison.

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