this should probobly be in the member boards...
i used to go to a lot of hippy-fests and had a lot of hippy friends. i dont have problems with them and never did. but now that i dont do drugs, i dont have any interest in hanging out with them.
i sort of think this thread is a bit shitty. no better then having a thread called black people, jews, etc.
i dont see what's unlike-able about footbag... my ex was amazing at it. he used to play on the street and make money.. check out this video:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=DJ_uZiueQKg&feature=related He had like..75 percent of his talent... wasn't as fast, but he could do all those tricks, just slowed a little bit down.
Hemp purses.. what's wrong with them? It's a renewable material that is also extremely strong, renewable and microbial. I don't have one, but I do have a hemp makeup case and a hemp wallet.
Patchouli... I agree in excess is stinks, and people abuse it by trying to cover up their un-showered stench. Blended with other oils and diluted on a clean person, it smells really earthy and sensual... or at least i think so. A couple of theirry mugler's angel perfumes have pathouli in them, and a lot of people wear them!
and I totally dislike the free loaders. I wouldn't call them hippies. Not at all. They're just free loaders masquerading as hippies because it's somewhat more accepted than flat-out homelessness, and people who have "hippie" ideals are more likely to be generous toward someone who appears to be a traveling hippie, than someone who is a wandering free loader.
My ex is the perfect example of this, i had an EXTREMELY similar situation to yours, Mia. My ex was living with me, and he had a friend (actually a couple friends) who were exactly like Colorado. At first they acted like they had just gotten into town, were going to get a job and then had a place to live. My ex INVITED them to my dorm, and then when I wasn't home, let them all shower in my bathroom and use my towels. it REEKED for weeks, and I had to buy new towels, the smell would not come out. They used to come to the dorms constantly after that, to "hang out" and would end up eating my food when i wasn't home, taking naps on my bed, and sleeping in the stairwells or lounge at the end of the halls. And one of them sold handmade wooden drums... not didgeridoo's like colorado.. but our story is pretty close. My ex wasn't a COMPLETE freeloader, he did make money selling weed, but not enough to pay rent or support himself, just enough for him to say "look, i paid for groceries this week!".
Well I think that the main thing that could make this thread not good is not defining what a hippie is. I Agree w/ i.breathe.in that it could be nasty.
I mean, I define myself as a hippie a lot of the time. I recycle. I go out in the woods and set up temporary communities. Every day when I see people express themselves truly I am happy for them.
What you posted in the quote from Mia is about
a) negligent parents,
b) roommates who cannot say no or set boundaries,
c) freeloaders
d) people who live 'off the grid' but love taking social services from the government.
I mean... we're on stripperweb. That could all be re-stereotyped into 'negligent stripper mothers who never pay their rent [or phone bill!!!!] and give extras, take food stamps, and take your baby wipes.'
Ya know?
I mean, I understand the Cartman-esque "DIE HIPPIE DIE" attitude which is funny but I'd be sad if this thread became 'HIPPIES SUCK'.
lol no.. talking about hippies isn't comparable to talking about black people/jews.. and since i'm so often called a hippie and people so often have negative things to say about it, and since my boulder thread went off topic for 2 pages, i dont see anything wrong with starting a new thread about it.
why member boards?
member boards is for more controversial posts where fighting/flaming or debates may end up carrying on.
the quote you made in your original post was negative, hence me thinking you were making a thread simply to bash a subculture.
oh. i didn't think of it that way. i just quoted that post because it was the last one posted in my other thread. that's the only reason.
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Yeah, for the most part I like hippies in that I'd classify myself & my friends as such. However that is different from people who 'live the hippie lifestyle' but have it bankrolled by their parents. I have one particularly terrible ex who (dude Keira I remember posting about this guy in one of your relationship threads back in like September) thought he was on a higher level b/c of all the drugs he took, made 90% of his connections socially by being a drug dealer, was super into Crowley and terrible 2012 apocalyptic beliefs... and it was all bankrolled by his magical credit card and the SUV his parents bought him.![]()
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Booooooo
But nothing wrong with bare feet.
Dreadlocks are icky like 80% of the time, unless they are on cute girls.





Ding, ding, ding! That's what I'm trying to say... it's not nessacarily 'real' hippies I dislike, it's the I-call-myself-a-hippie-but-really-I'm-just-a-free-loading-douche-bags that I hate. Hence my "individule basis" & "poser" comments as well as sharing my expierience with 'Sirch' and Colorado.
Like I said, my roomie was an awesome person, she just happened to be a hippie- her BF & his buddy were scum posing as hippies. I work with a hippie girl and she's good people, too... but I gotta admit my eye starts twitching she puts on jam band CD's in the salon.
i will say that i detest jam bands, but sitting ina drum circle is freaking awesome.



I can see where Mia is coming from. She isn't too fond of hippies because the ones she's met (such as Sirch) have been less than pleasant.
Honestly, as much as I love to smoke pot now, I hated hippies four years ago. My only experience with them was my exboyfriend J. and his loser friends. All they did was sit around smoke pot. They never worked and they were just unclean, filthy individuals with no pride or respect for themselves. Basically - degenerates. I hated them all and so therefore I started associating pot and all drugs and hippies with that.
Now I have a completely different outlook on this whole situation. After meeting M, my now husband who is an individual that takes pride in his appearance and actions and actually strives to better himself and his life I have no problem with hippies or pot. In fact, I love it; I absolutely love our lifestyle. We smoke pot every day, we go to hemp fests and barter fairs, we have fun but we're also responsible. We own a house and 2 new cars, we go to college, and we are good productive members of this society. So no, I don't hate hippies anymore.





See, one of my really good friends is in love with a hippie... the only thing I joke with her about is his love of Birkenstock- seriously, unless the guy is working he's wearing Birks. He happens to be a non-pot smoking hippie, but he's a fire fighter and he just took off for a year to help build houses or something in South America. Totally responsible, stand up guy who happens to be a hippie.
^ i want to meet someone like that!!!! I don't get why so many people (fake hippies) think that you can't be anti-corporate, live an alternative "green" lifestyle, and be into "hippie" stuff, while also being responsible, having a job, having a bank account and working towards being somewhat in society as well.
I would never want to live completely inside society, but I lived with someone for a year who wanted to live completely outside society, and that's insane too. For me, i need to live halfway inside society, and halfway outside to be balanced. If you want to travel and be a nomad (at least an international one) you at least need to have a passport and a bank account to buy plane tickets!! I don't see how living completely outside of society but being stuck on the same continent your whole life and having no other options, and no resources to pursue your goals (buying land to start a commune, a farm, etc.. you need to make money and pay taxes on your land)
I think one of the best kept secrets of hippies who actually live extraordinary lifestyles-- like these people :http://www.travelblog.org/North-Amer...og-235287.html
is that they do appear to live outside society, but they also have a safety net.. having one foot rooted in society and the other floating off in space.
Yeah, I think that's where there can be a really nice intersection between things like stripping & financial discipline and also caring deeply about freedom and personal choice. I want to get to the point where I know in my heart that if I wanted to, I could just... drop everything and leave my life... but to do that I need $$... very interesting.






I hate pot...the smell of it is sorta what I imagine satan asscrack would be like.
I detest both real and "freeloader" hippies because my ideals do not mesh well with their ideals.
Going out into the wilderness to set up a full-blown temporary city *Cough*BurningManand RainbowPeople*Cough* is actually (omg) DESTRUCTIVE to the planet. No matter how much you clean up afterwards, the ground is still gonna be trampled into submission and there will still be trash. You wanna do something helpful for the earth, go volunteer to build wilderness trails to encourage people to stay on the path rathert than trampling all the natural vegetation in sight.
Sitting around in drum circles is more or less as mentally stimulating as watching TV. Trust me, I've sat around in a few and it's not a return to anybody's bullshit primal/tribal roots, it's just a bunch of people making pointless noise on a bunch of fucking bongos while half-naked cause most of them do not posess the ability to play instruments of any real consequence.
Organic food ain't all it's cracked up to be. Sure, no pesticides are great, whatever. But organic farms arn't all over the place, often it takes more fuel to transport organic food than it does "traditionally" farmed crops which kinda lowers the goodness factor of the organic process by trading the pesticides for highter CO2 emissions. Simmilarly, if you buy a box of organic cerial, I'm betting it comes in a smaller size box (do they even make family size?) with a bag inside which is total overpackaging. I buy one bag of store-brand sugar coated Cocoa Puffs and it's equal two of your bag-in-box overpackaged organic bullshit cerials. Not to mention it costs half the price!
Next up, you wanna stop polluting the earth? Try upgrading from your VW kombi or simmilarly anciant vehicle to a freakin Prius or something. Ever checked out what's oozing from the tailpipe of your hippy bus?! Yep, it's a bunch of disgusting CO2 rouining the atmosphere since the bus is probably old and shitty. I'm guess ing the gas milage ain't great either. Go get a Geo Metro, they get almost the same gas milage as a Prius.
...I'll probably think up more hippie suggestions as they day goes on...
"You are NEVER too old to storm a bouncy castle!"~Jade Puget
My Current Pet Band Is: LAZRtag!





you live like an ivy vine
you can only survive by clinging onto trees
that's your flaw
put down some roots so you can stand on your own
-Kenpachi





Actually burning man is a leave no trace event. The water people bathe, wash and cook with isn't dumped onto the ground. Its MANDATORY for all attendees to either take it back with them or construct a bed in which it can evaporate. All the trash is taken back home and dumped. If you bothered to do your reading before your post you would've known this.
you live like an ivy vine
you can only survive by clinging onto trees
that's your flaw
put down some roots so you can stand on your own
-Kenpachi




When I was younger (like in high school) I did wear the Birkenstocks, patchouli, hemp bags, cutoff shorts, had hair down to my waist (wish I kept it! LOL) and smoked pot and dropped acid and followed the Dead around. I think I was attracted to that lifestyle because of the terrible upbringing that I had. I was on drugs to escape/cope on what had happened to me as a child (abuse, rape, being drugged) and I liked being a hippie because it was all about being peaceful. Peace was not something I had growing up in that hellhole of a "home".
I was not a freeloader. I've had a job since I was 14. Be it in retail, restaurants, or selling clothing that I made by hand on Dead tour. I learned at a young age that the only person who could take care of me was me. So no, no freeloading. I was too vulverable to allow myself to do that, and I liked providing stability for myself.
I've outgrown the clothes and the drugs AND the patchouli (Thank God) but I am still about progressive thinking, spiritual awakening, treating the earth with respect and vegetarianism. I'm about being the change I'd like to see in the world. Because if you are not part of the solution, then you are part of the problem. And I also think that well-behaved women seldom make history. I believe in all that.
I have had to deal with freeloaders and asswipes (idiots who gatecrashed Dead concerts and thought they were cool for doing it...lazy spare-changers...people moving into my friends house, uninvited.) In general I cannot stand those dumbasses who think they can take advantage of other people and not take responsiblity for their actions because it doesn't flow with their "lifestyle" and attribute it all to being a "hippie". What. Ever.
Being a hippie is more about contribution. It's not about being a leech. Yeah, I dislike the posers too. They give the real hippies a bad nme.
Leechers are like extras girls in that sense.



I've dealt with Burning Man people before, I know the rules, but do you honestly thing there isn't trash that blows away in the desert winds on occaision?! SOMEBODY'S granola bar wrapper is gonna get forgotten, I don't care who you are.
Somethings are impossible. A true Leave No Trace gathering that actually leaves no trace will NEVER happen. There's another failure of a hippie ideal for ya!
"You are NEVER too old to storm a bouncy castle!"~Jade Puget
My Current Pet Band Is: LAZRtag!





^ OK you hate hippies. We get that.
Nothing is perfect but people who attend strive for that. They know it isn't perfect. Nothing is.
you live like an ivy vine
you can only survive by clinging onto trees
that's your flaw
put down some roots so you can stand on your own
-Kenpachi




Oh yeah I still love jam bands and I think drum circles are so fun! I miss Jerry and I would dance to more Grateful Dead in the club, but let's face it, as much as I love Jerry, his voice aint...um...sexy LOL!





^^That's awesome to read.
you live like an ivy vine
you can only survive by clinging onto trees
that's your flaw
put down some roots so you can stand on your own
-Kenpachi
not quite true--
people are born being black, and since jewishness is considered to be something you are born with as well (not like other religions where you can stop practicing and go be something else, although jewish people can certainly go practice something else) it's not like being a hippie.
yes-- some people are born into hippie families and then either continue on being hippies or don't. if you don't, you're not still a hippie.
lots of other people become hippies in high school or college when they decide that their personal views and habits lean toward that way.
so I don't see it as shitty at all-- it's a community of people with it's own stereotypes, habits, beliefs and what not.
true hippies wouldn't give a shit about any derogatory thing people had to say here, and while I think hippies have their plusses and minuses as a community group, I'm not going to care either.
My dad is a hippie. My middle name is Sunshine if that tells you anything.
He has always had a job and has always made sure his four kids had everything they could need. He grows his own vegies and hasn't owned or driven a car of any sort in over 20 years. He's also a former Marine/Vietnam Vet (how's that for a twist).
Anyhow, hippies are just another kind of person. I'm sure like any other group you have your good and bad.
How about just taking people on a person by person case instead of lumping everyone into nice neat (and often inaccurate) categories?
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