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    Default I suffer from eco-guilt.

    I watered my lawn and garden in the morning. At 5:30am. For only 20 minutes. Every other day, I definately don't water every day. Today I started the sprinkler as usual, and when the timer went off indicating that it was time to turn off the water, my stepson turned the timer off, and I didn't hear the beeper.

    I forgot that I started the sprinklers and they were still going when I was leaving for school at 8:00am. When I saw that I forgot to turn off the sprinklers I nearly freaked out! I ran to the controler to shut down the water, and yelled at my family for turning off the timer but not the water. I felt awful that so much good clean drinking water was being wasted on my lawn that doesn't need it.

    It's not the money, either. We can pay the bills just fine. I think I suffer from eco-guilt.

    *I take canvas bags every time I shop
    *I feel horrible if I can't combine errands when driving.
    *I will carry an empty container around (all day if necessary) if I can't find a proper recycling bin
    *All my light bulbs are florescent bulbs
    *I recycle everything!
    *I drive my friends and family crazy with all this eco-guilt tripping.



    Anyone else feel eco-guilt?


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    Default Re: I suffer from eco-guilt.

    Honestly, I don't. And it makes me feel like a bitch or something because it's number one on everyone else's priorities. I do small things like making sure all our lights are off and stuff is unplugged and try to conserve water instead of bathing 19 times a day. But I don't have a guilt trip if I don't. I want to save the world, but I'm not doing a very good job. Boo me.

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    I hear ya. I've been getting more conscientious about using canvas bags since getting back from Europe.

    My "focus" though is more food. Like the factory farming system and how it affects our environment, health AND the workers involved in it. I'm avoiding getting neurotic about my eating, but I have been focusing more than before on organic, and with meats and dairy grass-fed and humanely treated animals. And good conditions for the workers.

    I can't track down the history of everything I eat (and that would take the fun out of a good meal!) but I guess by being more aware of it it helps?

    I've gotten into habits of doing little things too, like being aware to shut off the water and not let it run when I brush my teeth.

    And I LOVE that I live in NYC and don't need a car. NYC subway FTW!
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    Default Re: I suffer from eco-guilt.

    That's OK. I'm not eco-guilty. So between the two of us we're carbon neutral.

    j/k

    Seriously, why would you feel guilty about be conscientious. That's something to be proud of.

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    Default Re: I suffer from eco-guilt.

    you might get a kick out of this site:

    http://www.truegreenconfessions.com/

    I try my best but then I watch shows on the Green Living channel and I think, I have so far to go.

    These houses of like Bill Nye, Ed Begley Jr. and Jackson Browne are like so over the top. It makes me a little green.

    for example: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/20/ma...domains-t.html

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    Don't worry. Every time I'm wasteful I just remind myself, I'm only one person so what I do doesn't matter. It's also a good thing to remember when it's time to vote.

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    Default Re: I suffer from eco-guilt.

    I do feel guilty when I kill a spider though.

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    Default Re: I suffer from eco-guilt.

    Don't beat yourself up too much. Mistakes happen and you are MUCH more aware and more eco active than most people. I love, love, love the fact that you care so much though
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    Quote Originally Posted by Emily View Post
    you might get a kick out of this site:

    http://www.truegreenconfessions.com/

    I try my best but then I watch shows on the Green Living channel and I think, I have so far to go.

    These houses of like Bill Nye, Ed Begley Jr. and Jackson Browne are like so over the top. It makes me a little green.

    for example: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/20/ma...domains-t.html
    Thanks, Emily!

    And I had such a childhood crush on Bill Nye the Science Guy. I wanted him to be my dad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rooster470 View Post
    I do feel guilty when I kill a spider though.
    I smashed a fucking monsterous spider on my wall at about 4 this morning and it's remains are still stuck to the wall cause I'm too terrified of spiders to even scrape off a dead one. This mothafucker was HUGE though.

    I find it easier for me to be green than heavily consuming. I don't have a car which means it's bus or bike everywhere for me. Having to take the bus grocery shopping means it's a lot easier to carry a minimum number of shopping bags. Thus I bring my messenger bag and larger reusable canvas bags. I just called my mom to see if she can ship me up some of the cool plastic mesh market bags from where she lives in Mexico cause those last longer.

    Around the house, my computer is the big juice sucker. I'm pretty sure running cieling fans in my apt takes less electricity than buying and using an AC unit. I keep the lights off untill about 8:30 when it gets annoyingly dark and computer-lit in my room.

    Most everything around the house is recycled too cause Denver provides a lovely recycling program.
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    Default Re: I suffer from eco-guilt.

    If you're a conscientious person, how can you not have eco-guilt in this town? I moved more than a week ago and I'm still having pangs of guilt about throwing away a bunch of recyclables even though it was 5:30 in the morning of the day I was supposed to be out of there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emily View Post
    you might get a kick out of this site:



    I try my best but then I watch shows on the Green Living channel and I think, I have so far to go.

    These houses of like Bill Nye, Ed Begley Jr. and Jackson Browne are like so over the top. It makes me a little green.

    for example:
    Yeah. Most of us can do small stuff like conserving water, trying to use less gas, using compact flourescent bulbs and using less water. But it feels like to be a hardcore environmentalist you either need to really deprive yourself or be really wealthy.

    I read an article about a guy who can do a conversion on any car to an electric, but it doesn't come cheap. But then neither do huge spinning chrome rims.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PrettyCurlieQ View Post
    Honestly, I don't. And it makes me feel like a bitch or something because it's number one on everyone else's priorities. I do small things like making sure all our lights are off and stuff is unplugged and try to conserve water instead of bathing 19 times a day. But I don't have a guilt trip if I don't. I want to save the world, but I'm not doing a very good job. Boo me.

    You're not alone. I'm the same way, only I don't unplug things or whatever. I do have a couple of fluorescent light bulbs though.

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    Paris- your OP post made me think of how the lawn grass looked wilted all the time when I was a kid- California was in Drought Condition for almost a decade when I lived there.
    I try to be eco-conscious, but keep in mind some of the most "eco-friendly" people are the extremely impoverished-they have nothing to waste. (The exception to that is slash and burn land clearing for substinence farming. However, denying that would put millions of people into starvation.) I feel bad that my apartment houses TWO people and we produce ONE bag of trash a day. Bad!

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    Yup, I feel eco-guilt all the time!

    For example, I know I should have a compost bin, but havent gotten around to it. And canvas bags are good, but I also feel bad whenever I buy anythign in excessive plastic packaging. it's so hard when the companies we do business with arent on the same page. I wish businesses just automatically made biodegradable products. it would make life easier.
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    The water thing confuses me though...because water is a renewable resource, due to the water cycle. What am I missing?
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    Pleh. What can I say.... I don't suffer from this eco-guilt. I can't feel guilty when China, Russia, and a whole bunch of other countries are committing eco-atrocities every day. Nothing I do in my life will equal what massive corporations in those countries do in an hours time.
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    Default Re: I suffer from eco-guilt.

    i think if everyone does one thing it would help the world out a lot. just one thing. if you want to do more then one, awesome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrodieLux View Post
    The water thing confuses me though...because water is a renewable resource, due to the water cycle. What am I missing?
    The way we get water these days is via reservoirs. Have you not heard of water shortages? Overuse, lack of rain, droughts...

    If too many people use too much water, it might prevent "the water cycle" from working properly.

    A large percentage of the world doesn't have access to clean drinking water and desalinization is expensive. Plus you can't shower or wash your car with salt water.

    So it's not quite as renewable of a resource as some assume it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sophia_Starina View Post
    Pleh. What can I say.... I don't suffer from this eco-guilt. I can't feel guilty when China, Russia, and a whole bunch of other countries are committing eco-atrocities every day. Nothing I do in my life will equal what massive corporations in those countries do in an hours time.
    Let's remember that WE are the biggest polluter in the world. Not China. And China is awful, horrible, disaster-destined.

    Individual actions, compounded, make a giant difference. Two-thirds of global warming gasses are emitted by our homes and by the cars we drive. The lifestyle choices of 9 billion people makes a massive difference to the planet.

    Eco-guilt is a fantastic thing. It's a survival instinct. Other than acting on eco-guilt in our daily lives, voting against Republicans is the other major difference we can make as individuals.

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    voting against Republicans is the other major difference we can make as individuals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bracketologist View Post
    Let's remember that WE are the biggest polluter in the world. Not China. And China is awful, horrible, disaster-destined.

    Individual actions, compounded, make a giant difference. Two-thirds of global warming gasses are emitted by our homes and by the cars we drive. The lifestyle choices of 9 billion people makes a massive difference to the planet.

    Eco-guilt is a fantastic thing. It's a survival instinct. Other than acting on eco-guilt in our daily lives, voting against Republicans is the other major difference we can make as individuals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sophia_Starina View Post
    Nothing I do in my life will equal what massive corporations in those countries do in an hours time.
    exactly.

    I use canvas bags when I shop, I'm vegan, and I walk or bike whenever it's reasonable, but that's about it.

    Well, and I vote against Republicans. But that's not an entirely eco-driven decision.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bracketologist View Post
    Let's remember that WE are the biggest polluter in the world. Not China. And China is awful, horrible, disaster-destined.

    Individual actions, compounded, make a giant difference. Two-thirds of global warming gasses are emitted by our homes and by the cars we drive. The lifestyle choices of 9 billion people makes a massive difference to the planet.

    Eco-guilt is a fantastic thing. It's a survival instinct. Other than acting on eco-guilt in our daily lives, voting against Republicans is the other major difference we can make as individuals.
    Really? Have you been to China? India? Indonesia? There are on the order of 3 billion people in China and India alone. Believe me, their daily lives depend on producing CO2 in quantities our emission controlled cars and scrubbed stack factories cannot possibly come close to. I find the 2/3rds number rather dubious as the UN and "climatologists" do not study how the 3rd world daily life affects the climate to any verifiable degree. Not that it matters to the UN or local politicians, as the deep pocket theory holds everwhere. Unless you've been there it is hard to imagine just how many unfiltered coal, wood, kerosene, etc. fires are being burned at any one time in those countries, and that's just to survive. Factories growing at exponential rates to catch up to the global economy do not have an EPA to govern them. Our past assult on the enviroment has no correlation to the, albeit, relatively controlled, modern lives we lead today. Just be ready to pay the taxman when the global bill comes due.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emily View Post
    you might get a kick out of this site:

    http://www.truegreenconfessions.com/
    LOL! Next time I accidentally over water my lawn, I know where to go to atone for my sins.

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