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    Default Any Candians working in the US?

    I'm curious to know what is required to work in the US if you're a Canadian citizen. I'm sure it varies from state to state (and I know a couple of the girls have said on here that they go down and work under the table) but is there some sort of standard stuff that we need. I was hoping to go down for a few months or maybe permanently to somewhere like California or Nevada but I'm pretty flexible and would love to go just about anywhere. Do I need a work visa? What kind of professions do you say you have when you apply for one because I'm pretty sure they wouldn't be giving those out to girls claiming they were strippers. And sorry if this question was already posted, I searched for any threads but couldn't find any.

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    Default Re: Any Candians working in the US?

    To legally work in ANY US club, Canadian girls need a US work visa. This is a federal matter under the Patriot Act, which is not subject to reinterpretation by individual states. And given that the US has no shortage of willing US dancers, the probability of obtaining a US work visa for dancing is essentially zero. About the only dancers who are currently able to obtain work visas for dancing are foreign 'features' who have a pre-arranged US club tour, with a specific starting date and a specific ending date,

    This is not to say that there aren't any number of US clubs that would be willing to hire a 'hot' Canadian dancer without the proper paperwork. However, these clubs typically disregard other laws in the same way they disregard the Patriot Act's ID and work visa requirements ... i.e. prostitution, drugs etc. However, it's probably safe to say that any of the US corporate chain clubs are under directive from their attorneys to thoroughly check the ID's and work status of all new dancers ... since large penalties for violating the Patriot Act also apply to the clubs as 'employers' of illegal workers. This is going to freeze you out of working for clubs like DejaVu, Scores, PEC, Lace, SR, CH, Hustler and a large number of other corporate clubs unless you are willing to risk presenting fake ID.

    Also, if you do come into a US club illegally, and if you do make bank, with today's rough US economy you run the risk of jealous fellow dancers ratting you out to ICE. This could result in your deportation, and being blacklisted from ever being legally allowed back into the US again. And if you are busted working under fake ID, you may get some US jail time before your 'free one way trip' home !

    In the absence of a work visa specific to dancing, the only other way to legally work in US clubs (or any other US job for that matter) is to apply for and obtain a 'green card' i.e. resident alien status. X number of these are granted every year on a 'luck of the draw' lottery basis - but not very many compared to the number of applicants.

    There are also other means of obtaining a US 'green card', with one of the more popular angles being a marriage to a US citizen (that typically ends in a quick divorce, but with the wife able to keep her 'green card'). However, now that the Canadian export economy is going sour in a big way due to the 1:1 exchange rate, the number of Canadians trying to use the marriage angle to legally live and work in the USA has been rising rapidly ... and so has the attention level of the US State Dep't / ICE. If they decide that a marriage was entered into for the express purpose of obtaining a 'green card', the marriage can be annulled and the Canadian citizen deported.

    Since Canada is part of a Commonwealth arrangement that the US is not included in, it is actually far easier for Canadian girls to legally live and work in other Commonwealth countries i.e. the UK, Australia, NZ etc. than to legally live and work in the USA.

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    ^^^ yes there are a handful of agencies that are able to distribute dancer work visas that their business has been granted by the US state dep't. However, these agencies are under serious LE investigation in the northeast US at least since a few have actually turned out to be fronts which allowed the agent 'pimps' to bring in foreign girls to work as dancers and after-hours prostitutes (with the agent - 'pimp' taking a huge cut of the girls earnings). Of course it's much easier for a Canadian girl to simply buy a bus or plane ticket and go home to Canada if she doesn't like the 'working arrangements' compared to girls imported from Lithuania or Kazakhstan !

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    Default Re: Any Candians working in the US?

    I'm not sure how much she had to pay out but basically she said she made more in Canada. If I was a little more brave I would do it just for the experience.

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    there are loads of french canadian girls working at the cheetah in palm beach. they are some of the biggest moneymakers in the club. Most of them i like becuz even though they do their little extras this and that they tend to be civil to the other girls. i gotta say that they are mad sexy too. this club requires an entertainers card from the city of palm beach so i dont really know how they get away with hiring canadians. wish i could tell you. a lot of clubs down here will overlook things if they think you are gunna sell alot. if it was me i would just get a fake entertainer license and hope for the best. they just take a look at it before they audition you. no big deal really

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    Default Re: Any Candians working in the US?

    Thanks for clearing a lot of things up Melonie. A few dancers at my club work in Florida illigally but are only there for short vacations. If I was to move south it would be permanently so it looks like I've got some thinking and some paper work to do.

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    just be warned.... south florida is not an easy hustle. i am seriously trying to move out of here or change jobs. girls are very agressive and extras are becoming the norm almost everywhere. the few clubs that extras area not tolerated are overflooded with girls and usually have nazi like management using you to sell promo items and drinks. I am taking a breather for a month or so to make sure i dont get burt out of all the bs ........

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    Melonie, I am from Canada,if I have a criminal record is it still easy to work in other Commonwealth countries?
    I'm not an expert, but I would say that the existance of a criminal record from one Commonwealth country would severely jeopardize your chances of obtaining a new 'Youth Mobility Visa' ... which is scheduled to replace the existing 'Holiday Work Visa' within a few months ...

    (snip)"Tier 5 — Youth Mobility Visa
    The Tier 5 — Youth Mobility Visa will replace the working holiday visa this year. A date is yet to be announced but it is likely to be around November 2008.

    Validity: 2 years
    Eligibility: You must be aged between 18 and 30, and you must not have previously held a UK working holiday visa. You must be a national of a country which operates a similar working holiday scheme for young British people, and you must be sponsored by your national government (Australians and New Zealanders are likely to be exempt from this requirement).

    Other requirements:
    This is a points–based visa. To be eligible you must accrue 50 points. 30 points will be awarded for a sponsorship certificate from your home country (Australians and New Zealanders are likely to be made exempt from this); 10 points will be awarded for being aged between 18 and 30; and 10 points will be awarded for having £1600 in savings (which you will have to show proof of in the form of bank statements etc).

    Existing working holiday makers (or those who have previously held a UK working holiday visa) cannot switch to, or apply for, the UK Youth Mobility Visa.

    Restrictions: You can work in any lawful job for two years, but cannot work as a professional sportsperson, a doctor in training, or set yourself up in business. You must leave the UK at the end of your two year visa,"(snip)


    the 'poison pill' with the new 'Youth Mobility Program' is the requirement for sponsorship by your home country ... which would probably be in doubt since your home country will definitely do a criminal record check prior to signing off on sponsorship.

    However, it appears that the existing Holiday Work Visa program doesn't have a sponsorship requirement ... meaning that you might have a much easier time getting one of these. You'll have to hurry though because these will only last for another few months ...


    (snip)"UK Working Holiday Visa (to be replaced by Tier 5 — Youth Mobility in November 200
    Validity: 2 years
    Eligibility: you are eligible to apply for a UK working holiday visa if you are a citizen of a Commonwealth country and are aged between 17 and 30 years inclusively.

    Other requirements:
    You must be single, or married to someone also eligible for a working holiday visa and plan to take a working holiday with you,
    You must not have dependent children aged five or over during your stay in the UK,
    You must show proof of sufficient funds in your bank account. UK Immigration does not specify how much 'sufficient funds' are. However, the idea is to show that you won't get into financial trouble and rely on public funds to support you. You can do this best by having approximately 2500 GBP (AUS$6000) and a return ticket. If you only have a one-way ticket, you will need to have more funds in your bank account.

    Restrictions: You are restricted in the duration of your employment in the UK. You must take work that is incidental to your travel only and this work cannot exceed a total of 12 months of your 2 year visa."(snip)

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    there are loads of french canadian girls working at the cheetah in palm beach. they are some of the biggest moneymakers in the club. Most of them i like becuz even though they do their little extras this and that they tend to be civil to the other girls. i gotta say that they are mad sexy too. this club requires an entertainers card from the city of palm beach so i dont really know how they get away with hiring canadians.
    ... by violating the Patriot Act ... a fairly common occurence in states that are up to their eyeballs in 'illegal immigrants' already. The clubs' tolerance / encouragement of 'extras' usually goes hand in hand - and provides extra profits for the club in exchange for the extra risk the club is taking.

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