^^ I agree, I have had a lot of luck with Mexican immigrants, esp. ones who do construction.
I've been dancing for 10 years next month. I'm very good at it. I don't use the term 'whale', no one I know does. Maybe that is a regional thing. If I said that to another dancer or staff they would know what it means, but would mock me I'm sure. I would use the term 'big spender'.
I think that veteran dancers can 'smell the money' as I like to say, just from past experience. You do this long enough and you'll get a sixth sense for who will spend on you and who won't. It's hard to tell how much someone has to spend or what they are really going to spend. Looking in the wallet is good for cash on hand, but what about credit cards and bank cards? You have to learn how to read their conversation. Maybe ask questions like, "have you ever been to a/our champagne room?" The answer will be: "No.", "Once.", "I go all the time." That might give you an idea of how they like to spend. Alot of the Vegas girls will ask what hotel they are in. Here I also ask what golf coarse they are playing and where they went for dinner. Healthy teeth and good shoes are always a sign of financial comfort, but not a sign that they are going to spend on you. Some of my best customers dressed like bums. I personally never make money off the suit and tie crowd. Never. I can't stand that type and I think it shows right through. Alot of dancers 'people watch'. If they see a guy go get a good amount of dances with another dancer or two, they'll go hustle them. Or remembering faces is good. If you can remember the whale (lol) that was in last month and dropped 3k when he walks in, you better get to him before anyone else does!
So.. the short answer is, there really is no specific answer. I know this wasn't much but I hope I helped.![]()




Perhaps I have a shotgun approach, but I just assume that every guy I speak to can afford 1/2 hour in the VIP, even if he tells me he can't. I don't care if he has it on him or not. He can afford it on credit if need be. Whether or not you can close the sale doesn't have anything to do with his financial situation regardless of what he may tell you. At least you have to think this way.
How many times have you seen a guy flash his money and you haven't been able to get him to spend it on you? I can't think of how many times I've strong-armed a guy into a VIP sale after he's told me he has no money. Sometimes they've had it in their wallets or have readily put it on a credit card. If you can close him, he'll come up with the cash.
Like I said, your ability to close the sale doesn't have much to do with the amount of cash available to this guy. Just assume they all have it available by some means and get it from him. They can have a stack of 100's and it's not yours anyway until you close him, so what does it matter?
^ yes. Exactly. And I'm glad Paintgoddess is still around, haven't seen you around lately and I always like your thinking.
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Seriously, great way of looking at it. So true!
It's one of those concepts that seems so simple that you should have thought about it but you didn't... and not very many others have either.
So like.. let me see if I can put it in another way: every customer is just a different level of difficulty getting him to part with what he has... until he doesn't have anymore. And we can assume he has at least a few hundred to spend either way. Does that sound about right?
Yes, except for the having a few hundred to spend part. Some have hard budget boundaries, but there's at least $20+ bucks than can be milked out for the most part...![]()
Just wanted to add in that my highest spending customer ever was a 19 year old pimply faced boy dressed in ratty blue jeans, old sneakers, and a sweatshirt. $700. Whoda thunk? It's always worth it to try your best with every customer, but target the obvious demographic first, age usually being the most important factor for me (35-60).


yeh.... i go for the eye contact.
remember. shoes watch clothes are all good signs. but eye contact is the winning factor. it shows that the guy is into you. my other thing that is a good idea if he is gunna spend with you is if he offers you a drink right away. if you want to know if he is loaded up with dough ask him if its okay to order a split of champagne. rich guys dont give a rats ass about spending more than 20 bucks on a drink and respect classsy women sipping a low alcoholic drink
boy i could write a book of tricks on this one.
btw i have heard the term whale before. its kinda gay. i find the best way to respect your better customers is to not label them by some moneygrubbing name. treat them like they are your new found best freind. try to find as much common ground as possible. compliment little things about their character that you find unique and appealing (aka not the obvious money grubbine whore things) and show that you have an intelligent interest in them.


the little champagne trick is so good though.
something psycho sematically lures them into vip rooms when they see you sippng that glass of expensive bubbly. it makes you look expensive and classy like an exotic car or somthing. sometimes i tell guys i hate looking like a sloppy drunk and therefore only drink champagne. they either hate me for it or order a bottle of dom and proceeed to drop thousands. I am not trying to brag but my goal when i get to the club is usually to find one guy and get a thousand dollars off him. ....... doesnt always happen but as long as that is my goal i usually come close if not rite on the money. i feel the higher i aim the better my results. there are so many extremely wealthy guys who frequent these places it is our opportunity to find them and lure them into blessing us with half the lifestyle they lead. thus far i have managed to buy luxury cars and beautiful clothing as well as live in beachfront property. this year i am planning on starting my own company with a man who i am in love with but still used stripper mentality on. this is not to say i have hustled him but rather i have made him feel like he is enjoying one of the finer things in life by spending his time and money with me......
Great advice everyone who posted after me!![]()





i would -never- ask.
i choose to work dayshift, so it's normally a little bit slower and laid back. if a guy looks like really good potential and i have the time (read: other girls are mostly preoccupied) i'll go up front to the door and find out how much/if he tipped the door girl, if he was nice or rude, if he was there previously and spent a lot, etc.
i'm sneaky that way. also, the ATM is a few feet from where the door girl is. she can generally see how much people take out. not -exact- amounts but "a lot" or "a little". she's also the one in control of "funny money". so guys have to go through her to get it. sometimes i'll walk up to her and she'll be like "the guy in the suit just got a grand in golden dollars" or something of that nature.
so yeah, she generally has a better idea than anyone else how much money a guy has.
i also agree with the "sixth sense" that you develop over time. i can generally tell if a guy will like me or not, even if he hasn't seen me yet. i'm not ALWAYS right, but most of the time. i can also generally tell which guys have money and which don't, or will be cheap.
all of that being said, it doesn't mean i won't approach guys i think are a waste of time (unless they're being rude). i will still go up to them and do my best, i just won't do so until i've exhausted all other possible "better potential" options.
Thats why smart guys that go to strip clubs take only the cash they intend to spend for example $150.00 bucks.
You walk in with 150.00 bucks cash only leave your wallet locked up in the car. That way if you run into a situation where you are being hustled and are short on cash it gives you an escape route back into the reality of a parking lot where a stripper cannot follow.
Once in the saftey of your car and you make a decision without interfernce if it is really worth it to go back inside or head to another club.









Because we really want to follow you and eat you alive, starting with your dick tip in between our incisors. Oh. And then we'll take your wallet and steal your car in our panties, blood dripping from our lipsticked mouths from the man feast. Good thing you are on guard. Gotta watch out for those strippers.




Good thread is "I Smell Money" by ExoticEngineer. Don't remember where it is (ha, could be stickied for all I know) and I'm too lazy to look (sorry chrissy!)
But yeah, for the most part, close and then worry about how much money they have.





^ lol. here:
http://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?t=93122
BTW, i know some folks have trouble searching, I had to tweak it to find that, I searched Exotic (space) Engineer, but her name is ExoticEngineer (no space) and then it still didn't return her thread, so I clicked on advance search and searched all threads started by her. That worked. So, just saying, sometimes it's all about the manipulating of the search, and it may take a few times. But dammit, when you want something, it's worth the tweaking!![]()
Love it!





"Whale" is as regional as cable television. I'm being generous by saying cable television because they say it on CSI and L&O as well.
If anything the term is good to know if you want to understand your business more, either hear on SW or if you happen to hear someone, as "gay" as it may sound, say "dude the black guy in the red shirt sitting in the back left hand corner is a WHALE!" you'll know to put down your lip gloss and sit with him.
I always assume the guy, any guy has at least 60 to spend. If they want to stop after 2 songs I'll say they're crazy whats 20 more bucks???!! If I was working vip all night then I would aim higher but 90% of the people at my club aren't millionaires or are too tight to separate with tons of cash. I always keep reseting my goal from 60 to 100 to 140 to 200 once I reach one of them of coarse. If I treated every guy like they had a grand to drop I would be wasting my time in a wanna dance club.
Never judge a book by it's cover. This is why it's important to talk to every customer. The best advise I ever got was to treat the club like a party that I'm throwing. Everyone is here to see ME and it's my job to mingle and spend small amounts of time conversing with everyone. You cant tell his spending potential by looking at him, but you can tell within one song. Questions that let me know his spending potential are, What do you do for a living? Do you frequent gentlemens clubs? What are you drinking? What do you like to do when you come here...sit at the bar, tip at the stage, buy dances in the VIP room? Are you celebrating anything? Are you planning on having some fun with one of us lucky ladies tonight? You need to be able to read people though. Don't let him waste your time blowing smoke up your ass. If he's a good quality customer he will give you a tip, ask for a dance, or at least buy you a drink in the first song. If you think he's actually planning on spending money but doesn't even offer you a drink (some guys just never learned good manners or don't know strip club ediquette) invite him to the stage when it's your turn, or at least stop back by later after he's had a chance to take in all the sceanery. He'll appreciate you came back to check on him. And I've worked all over North and South Carolina and have never heard the term whale before. Maybe cable would help. I don't have cable by choice. I use the time to educate myself instead of killing braincells.
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