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    About five years ago, my financial situation was not the best and accordingly I could not afford a lot of dances. There was a dancer who spent a fair bit of time with me everytime i visited my fav club and we chatted and had a couple of drinks. On the rare occasion, I had some spare cash I would have a dance with her. She was in a steady relationship and well familiar that I had no cash. We often chatted during slow times if I was around and later we worked a schedule to catch up in traditionally slow times or days each week. Then we lost touch and both moved on.

    Recently I bumped into her at a different venue whilst travelling interstate and it was wonderful to catch up. She was in another steady relationship but two things had changed, the first (perhaps an incorrect assumption) that she now made a lot less based on our conversations and secondly my financial situation had improved. So I tipped her about $100 - $200 for her time and did this during each subsequent time I visited the club which was about once a fortnight and we caught up for about half an hour to an hour. We went for a dance each time as well and I paid the going rate for the dance over and above this as you would expect. The usual cue for me to leave being that she had to either go on stage or hustle and then I would leave.

    Perhaps this may have created a new beast as I have recently been encouraged by her to meet OTC for a non sexual date and to pay for her time to be there. This is of no interest to me, for dry and boring as I may be, I have no interest in paying for company in the real world. Secondly both my attention span and finances would probably be stretched if this was a four - six hour outing rather than the half hour to hour chat. Accordingly to this date I have politely deffered.

    Dropping in and paying for time in a club while interstate is not such a bad entertainment option to me as usually i rarely have more than an hour to spare and hence my question "What would you expect to be tipped if you had a drink with someone you chatted with for about half an hour or an hour during slow(er) times of the week?"

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    I charge $300 an hour to sit with a customer.
    I don't sit and chat or drink. I negotiate payment first and then the conversation starts. I dont put myself into the situation where I am relying on whatever they feel like tipping me. Done it before and been burned so never again.
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    At the club I go to, I can "buy a dancer off the list" for $125. Dances during that time are extra. I know some dancers will charge for their time in an OTC meeting, but the only dancers I have seen OTC were friends, so that did not apply.

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    You see, you're a customer, whether in the club or out of it. With that insight, you can make choices you prefer.
    I loved going to strip clubs; I actually made some friends there. Now things are different for the clubs and for me. As a result I am not as happy.

    Customers are not entitled to grope, disrespect, or rob strippers. This is their job, not their hobby, and they all need income. Clubs are not just some erotic show for guys to view while drinking.

    NOTE: anything I post here, outside of a direct quote, is my opinion only, which I am entitled to. Take it for what you estimate it is worth.

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    It depends on the person and the situation. You said a slow night, so I would want what I could make in that same amount of time. Assuming songs = 3min ea, x 30min = 10 dances possible (assuming little DJ banter) x $20/dance = $200, right? So a "slower" night would be maybe 5 dances = $100.

    That's not taking into consideration potential customers who will tip more than the per-dance fee, and/or continue to have the dancer sit with them well past that 1/2 hour time frame.

    Some of the slowest times are the best times to catch the custys with $$$ early, before other girls do, so essentially, that 30 min could mean $100 for a dancer, or it could mean $1,000+.

    As a semi-regular, and as an old friend who seems to enjoy this dancers company, I personally think $75-300 would be an appropriate amount (+ dances/drinks/stage buy off, if any of those apply during that time), depending on the night and how recently/often you have gone in/are going in.

    To me, it seems like she's gotten to a point that she sort of relies on that money from you when she sees you, and would like to potentially earn more. It's a good sign that she likes you enough to want to hang out OTC, even in the form of a "customer".

    Just be clear and let her know it's not your thing.

    Curious follow up q though - What's the difference between paying her for her time ITC versus OTC, or is it just a financial consideration? I noticed you sort of mentioned feeling like you're not "that lame" to need to pay for a non sex faux date, but really, I would think the level of fun and companionship would be better for BOTH OTC in this case (though, personally, I would NEVER go to dinner for that amnt. of cash... I'm just basing this off the prices you've discussed).

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaizaine View Post
    I charge $300 an hour to sit with a customer.
    With all due respect, that's insane, and I would laugh very loudly if someone said that to me in a club. But, if you get it, more power to you.

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    ^^
    exactly our dances are $50 for 10 mins so that works out at $300 per hour. Im not giving a discount for conversation just because I'm not dancing.

    Yes I do get paid this amount by a couple of regulars. Guys I just meet usually want dances.

    Ill laugh all the way to the bank LMAO
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    What's the difference between paying her for her time ITC versus OTC, or is it just a financial consideration? I noticed you sort of mentioned feeling like you're not "that lame" to need to pay for a non sex faux date, but really, I would think the level of fun and companionship would be better for BOTH OTC in this case (though, personally, I would NEVER go to dinner for that amnt. of cash... I'm just basing this off the prices you've discussed).
    Primarily financial, the expectation would be the above as a pro rata rate and there would be an expectation to cover a minimum of 5 to 6 hours every time I visit. Whilst an hour or even two on each occasion is fine, indulging in something like this IMHO is about as useful and fun as a cocaine habit.

    Whilst my initial gesture to tip was probably conducted under the delusion that I was a friend, I am clear now that I am a customer. Hence my initial question as to what is an acceptable rate as then this translates to a fee for service just like a dance.

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    ^^
    do u visit SC's in Melbourne anymore?
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    Some of the most effortlessly beautiful, kind, intelligent, successful, motivated, driven and ridiculously hilarious women that I have ever met have been dancers. I've met the best friends that I've ever had in this industry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaizaine View Post
    ^^
    exactly our dances are $50 for 10 mins so that works out at $300 per hour. Im not giving a discount for conversation just because I'm not dancing.

    Yes I do get paid this amount by a couple of regulars. Guys I just meet usually want dances.

    Ill laugh all the way to the bank LMAO
    But how do you ever sell any dances if you don't talk to guys for "free" (hustling) in the first place? Are you just that strikingly beautiful that guys fall at your feet the instant they see you?

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    ^^
    I do get approached for dances a lot. I work weekends because my club is busy. Of course I talk to guys for free before I get a dance. But that's not how I read his question..he is asking what he should tip for conversation. Also I only ever talk to guys briefly to get a dance, I dont give much of my time away for free no.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellona View Post
    Lol^^your a bitter guy arent you?
    Hehe there are many of them out there!!
    I don't understand why it bothers some men if other men wanna spend their money just talking.
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    If you tip a hot girl for her time, she will remember you the next time you come in.

    If a hot girl spends a lot of time with you and you don't tip her for her time, she will remember you the next time you come in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellona View Post
    Lol^^your a bitter guy arent you?
    Astonishment at a $300/hr "chat rate" = I'm bitter? Interesting viewpoint.

    If that = bitter, I guess I'd rather be bitter than so desperately pathetic and lonely that I would pay someone $300 just to talk to them for an hour. I mean, you're talking Dr. Phil rates. Damn, girl.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaizaine View Post
    I charge $300 an hour to sit with a customer.
    I understand that your time is worth $300/hr due to lost productivity from dances, but why would someone pay you $300/hr to sit with you? Just exactly what do you provide them for their money?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsteve View Post
    I understand that your time is worth $300/hr due to lost productivity from dances, but why would someone pay you $300/hr to sit with you? Just exactly what do you provide them for their money?
    I dont mind answering this. My regular pays for for 2 hours straight usually - $600. We go off to the private area and sit on the couch and we just chat and he brings this massage tool thing in and gives me a massage with it.

    I never imaged making money like this when I started stripping. Would I pay anyone this much to talk to them? No. Do I think it's worth it? Absolutely not. But I'm not going to refuse the money. I don't really understand what he gets out of it either.
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    i would LIKE to say 200 an hour, but i'd be "ok" with 100.

    that being said, if i was dancing the entire time, i'd make about 400 bucks in that hour.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaizaine View Post
    ^^
    do u visit SC's in Melbourne anymore?
    Yes, when I visit Melbourne. I am now based on the Coast. Perhaps after the winter is out, I will come back more often.

    Quote Originally Posted by bsteve View Post
    I understand that your time is worth $300/hr due to lost productivity from dances, but why would someone pay you $300/hr to sit with you? Just exactly what do you provide them for their money?
    I asked the question to establish whether there is an expected rate as this is now a business transaction whereas in the past I tipped. I am not sure as to how much time I took up as it was a social transaction and the amount of the tip to me was irrelevant as it was a token of appreciation. I assumed it would have been either half an hour or an hour.

    I also asked the question weighted with a slow time clause because if $50 buys you ten minutes,$300 per hour represents the maximum potential earnings. ( I am sure there have been tips on occasions over and above).

    By the same token a dancer may rate a $700 a night a good night on a quiet Tuesday in Australia. In which case, if she has been on the floor for 8 hours, $300 an hour represents almost half the take for the night. But this is not about negotiating a rate or commenting on whether it represents good value, I am curious to know what an acceptable rate is.

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    ^^
    Ok just to clarify, are u talking about going to the private area and talking or just talking out on the floor? Coz that is two different things. I guess if she is happy talking to u out on the floor without any negotiations happening then anything u choose to tip her is better than nothing or just being offered drinks. That being said some girls seem to be happy to talk to guys all night for drinks LOL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jaizaine View Post
    ^^
    Ok just to clarify, are u talking about going to the private area and talking or just talking out on the floor? Coz that is two different things. I guess if she is happy talking to u out on the floor without any negotiations happening then anything u choose to tip her is better than nothing or just being offered drinks. That being said some girls seem to be happy to talk to guys all night for drinks LOL.
    Jaizine the more you wite, it sounds like you are describing a VIP situation for $300/hr, which while something I still wouldn't do, doesn't make my jaw hit the floor. This sounds like a normal VIP rate whether you're talking or dancing or some combination of those.

    But my astonishment (and a little bit of rudeness) was based on envisioning this scenario:

    Me: (sitting at a table enjoying the sights and having a drink)

    You: (approaching) "Hi, how are you tonight? Mind if I sit with you?"

    Me: "Sure, have a seat."

    You: "Fantastic. I should let you know up front, my chat rate is $300/hr."

    Me: "ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha ha see ya."

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    To the OP, it sounds like the situation you have is appropriate and good for both of you. Just if she brings up OTC again, mention to her that you don't have any interest in that buy enjoy seeing her in the club I'm sure she will be fine with that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jaizaine View Post
    ^^
    Ok just to clarify, are u talking about going to the private area and talking or just talking out on the floor? .

    Thanks Jaizaine. It is on the floor and really no pressure if she leaves to get a dance with someone else. In fairness however, custies tend not to approach a girl who is chatting with another male.

    To put this in perspective, If I had a ute and friends kept asking me to help everytime they needed something moved and I scored a slab of beer for my efforts that would perhaps be fine. But if tomorrow I started a removalist business and my friends still expected me to cart their stuff for a slab of beer, I may be offended.

    I think I would respect those that offered to pay me the going rate. If I then offered them mates rates that another issue. If the rate I offered my friends is slightly higher than the going rate, they may still agree to pay the first time because of all the past favours they received.

    Hence in summary, I appreciate what I got for free in the past but if it is her business now perhaps it is only fair that I do not continue to hand her the equivalent of a slab of beer. Hence my original question as to a rule of thumb rate. Anyways thats the way I see it.
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    Luke, I think I understand your question. Honestly, what a girl can make in an hour varies so much from club to club, state to state, and country to country that you should probably just ask her. Or you could just assume that since she sits with you every time you come in and is interested in initiating an OTC arrangement, then whatever you pay her must be to her liking already.

    In general, I liked to assume that I would get at least 5-7 dances an hour, on any decent night. Didn't always happened, but I tried. So if I were going to sit with someone for an hour, I'd like to get at least the normal dance price x 5-7. If it's a club with a VIP, it might be a little different, since she could possibly assume that if she weren't sitting with you she might be able to score a VIP at whatever the going rate is.

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    Just want to say if the money is there and he wants to give it then he'll pay it. I've gotten that before.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TigersMilk View Post
    Just want to say if the money is there and he wants to give it then he'll pay it. I've gotten that before.
    Well, sure, and the $300/hr gets less and less astonishing all the time. I know girls who get that kind of money and more (like, $1300 for 2 hours) from regulars who like to lavish money on them. Almost more like a sugar daddy than a club customer. But, that in no way means that they have a standard menu item and expect to charge $650/hr or $300/hr for chat....it just means that sometimes, someone chooses to spend that much.

    I mean, there have been a couple of times where I've seen my ATF for literally like a minute (due to various circumstances), handed her the $100 I planned to give her, and said "see you next time" or "have a nice trip" or whatever. Does this mean she has a $6000/hr chat rate?

    In other words, "I charge $300/hr for chat" is sounding more and more bogus. Not for casual customers, you don't.

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