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    Default Stories: Hustling whales in beggar's clothing

    I'm starting this thread in response to the "Figuring out how much money he has" thread because I think most of us probably have a story about the guy we sat down with for lack of better prospects. The one with the dirty baseball cap and bad hair. The one with his arms crossed. The young one with pimples. The loud and fat. Yet they make your night.

    Joe Girard, in his book How to Close Every Sale argues that you can't know what a buyer looks like: "My business was to sell cars, and I didn't want to hear other sales people griping all day. But I couldn't help overhearing them. Customers would walk into the showroom and a salesman would say: 'You take that one, I don't want him. He's just a shopper.' ...Somebody else would say, 'Look at this mooch. He can't even afford to wear a decent coat.' The next customer's hair was too long. And another belonged to an ethnic group that 'don't buy cars.' All day long, these guys would think up reasons why people weren't good prospects. I couldn't get over it. It was as if they were trying to convince themselves that nobody ever bought cars. But me, I believed that every person who walked into the showroom was there for one reason: to buy a car! I figured every person who walked into the showroom had one thought in mind--he or she wanted to buy a car. Why else would anyone come into an automobile dealership?

    To this day I could never figure out what those salespeople know that I don't know. How in the world can anyone look at somebody and determine if he's going to buy? I've been in the sales field for many years and I still have no idea what a buyer is supposed to look like, and I defy anyone to describe what one looks like."

    My first whale was a guy that always wore the same orange sweatshirt and dirty baseball cap. He had white hair that he never bothered to cut or fix. Same jeans every time. Smoked Marlboro reds while hunched over his coffee. I never saw him buy a dance. Upon talking to him, he'd been a Wallstreet investment banker in the late 80's and owned a modeling agency in the 90's. He handed me a $20 every three songs for hours while I listened and talked. Never did a dance. Whale in beggar's clothing.

    Yet another guy. Southern accent. Young twenties. So stupid he lied and told me he was a "financial advisee." Nursed his beer. I should have quick-hustled him for one dance and moved to another table. However, I made over $700 from him in repeat VIP sales and tips.

    Another: Blue-collar mexican. Possible language barrier. Stereotyped as grabby and flagrant enough to pay you $18 for a $20 dance if you don't count the money before you walk off. Hung at my stage tipping a few ones. I approached him to thank him and thought what the hell. $400 in dances. Let me also mention that I often used the excuse that "Mexicans aren't my demographic."

    Please share your stories about whales in beggar's clothing and keep it hustle-related as a way to inspire others to approach everyone and take everything they're willing to give--even if it's next week's paycheck.
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    I don't really have a story. Just a piece of advice. I know there are some clubs that actually enforce a dress code. If you are fortunate enough to work in such a club, I would recommend approaching a custie that has managed to bypass the dress code.

    The clubs bend rules for big spenders. That has been my experience.
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    Whales in sheep's clothing.
    There was the whale that looked like a trucker. He was a construction guy, smelled like stale smoke, always in jean and boots, and needed some coercion to dance. He needed 20 mintues of talking, which is WAY more than I ever spend, but I figured the first time, WTH. Turns out he's way overpaid and does pipe line inspections, and ended up becoming a regular, spending 600+ each time. He was a great catch, and how I knew to stay? He was drinking ODouls. Who comes to a SC, buys a non alcoholic way overpriced beer to sit and stare at the TV? Just like bottles of water, Odouls is a great sign of a whale.

    Another whale, and I mean whale bigger than you can fucking fathom, was a guy in jeans, long sleeve thermal tee, and oxford type shoes. He walked in, and in his walk, I knew. I just fucking knew that he was there to spend. I ditched the customer I was with, and approached him, with a big smile, and he had a grin on his face. He knew I knew and he was good with that. We talked for a few minutes while he "had a drink first" and then we went right back to VIP. No, he didn't ever ever dress like a whale. Ever. Lemme repeat the ever. lol. (His shoes, and his walk, not a swagger, but a sure in himself confident walk were the tip offs) But, he spent over a grand each and every time he came in. AND i introduced him to my bff, who he loved too. He liked less dancing and more talking. "Good conversations from intelligent ladies", he'd say. He would spend one night with me (over $1000) one night with Emily (over $1k) and one night with both of us (over $1k each) in one week. That's what he liked. Hours of talk and sobriety together in VIP. He'd have one drink, tip the host, the dj, us, and the waitress like a rock star.

    Last one was my longest regular: Dressed in a hockey jersey, jeans and sneakers, I managed to pull him into a 1 hr VIP. Next time he came in he came in wearing a flannel shirt! (hullo, this is not 1993! hehe) Each time, he spent anywhere between $400 and $1200 on me. Never dressed like a whale. Liked conversation and an overpriced beer (1) or bottle of water.

    Love it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sophia_Starina View Post
    I don't really have a story. Just a piece of advice. I know there are some clubs that actually enforce a dress code. If you are fortunate enough to work in such a club, I would recommend approaching a custie that has managed to bypass the dress code.

    The clubs bend rules for big spenders. That has been my experience.

    hmmmm, very good thought!!!!

    i had a young 20s kid look like he wouldn't even really buy a dance, but be really annoying, but it was late at night, and I thought, what the hell...."do you want to go spend some more time together in the back?" right after the dance.....then he said "yes" wtf! right on!

    then another time i asked, and the guys said, "thank god you asked, i wanted to go, but I thought you would think it's rude if I asked"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrissy68 View Post

    Another whale, and I mean whale bigger than you can fucking fathom, was a guy in jeans, long sleeve thermal tee, and oxford type shoes. He walked in, and in his walk, I knew. I just fucking knew that he was there to spend. I ditched the customer I was with, and approached him, with a big smile, and he had a grin on his face. He knew I knew and he was good with that. We talked for a few minutes while he "had a drink first" and then we went right back to VIP. No, he didn't ever ever dress like a whale. Ever. Lemme repeat the ever. lol. (His shoes, and his walk, not a swagger, but a sure in himself confident walk were the tip offs) But, he spent over a grand each and every time he came in. AND i introduced him to my bff, who he loved too. He liked less dancing and more talking. "Good conversations from intelligent ladies", he'd say. He would spend one night with me (over $1000) one night with Emily (over $1k) and one night with both of us (over $1k each) in one week. That's what he liked. Hours of talk and sobriety together in VIP. He'd have one drink, tip the host, the dj, us, and the waitress like a rock star. .
    Except he'd always have a $10,000 watch on! But it wasn't flashy like a Rolex or Cartier, so you had to know watches fairly well to know. He rolled up to the club in a MINI Cooper too.

    But yeah, he's the best. Even the VIP host said he was the best customer he ever met.

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    my earning nearly $3,000 in two nights started with a $5 tip that was handed to me by a guy who watched me dance on a small stage in the center of the club. i brushed it off at first but he was there two hours later and his eyes kept following me.

    mind you, this guy had long, curly, raggedy hair, glasses, and was dressed in the typical t-shirt and jeans. finally, i approached him and said, "i can see that you want a dance. would you like your dance here or upstairs?" right away he said, "upstairs." he spent about $900. then he came back the next night with $3,000 in an envelope and we spent 4 hours in VIP chatting and occasionally dancing. he said that he was in the internet dating industry and told me how once someone on the street handed him money because the man thought he was a homeless person--he was dressed so poorly.

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    lmao i love your siggy mina.

    Love it!

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    ^thank you! it's from damaverde.net. she has some other great animated avatars.
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    I have a few stories (trying to get into posting regularly).

    One was a young guy sitting down in a torn trench coat (it was the summer). He was sitting off to the side of the stage, didn't tip, but smiled at me the whole time. I didn't go to him immediately but as I made my way around the floor I eventually got to him and talked for a bit. The conversation ended up turning to physics of all things and then he said he had to get dances from me. We went to VIP and he wanted me to "just keep going." I was a bit concerned so after the first $100, I told him that it was club rules that we couldn't dance more than $100 without getting paid. He laughed and said that was a good line, but he understood that I didn't know him well enough so he gave me $500 and said to keep going. He came in about twice a month for nearly a year, each time he gave me at least $500 (turned out he owned his own software company that he started when he was 17).

    The next is about my best regular ever. Older guy wearing a baseball cap, ugly jeans, ugly sneakers, and a plain t-shirt. I was in a bit of a foul mood that night and I didn't think he was going to spend money, so I just used a one liner. I had pig tails that night and he asked if I was a school girl and I said "something like that, let me show you what I've learned" and started to gently pull him up. He got one dance then wanted to talk. I wasn't really in the mood, but I figured maybe I could get one more dance out of him so another 10 minutes sitting there wouldn't hurt. The conversation was easy and he was actually very interesting. After a bit, I asked him if he wanted another dance and he asked about the CR, then we spent 3 hours there dancing and talking. He came in every week for a few months and we would stay in the CR until the club closed. He said he chose to dress in clothes he picked up from COSTCO (shoes included) when he came into a club to keep most of the girls at bay. Finally learned my lesson that it doesn't matter what the guy is wearing.

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    The last club I worked in, they let 18 year olds in (don't get me started...), on a Sunday night, it was really dead. There were literally like 10 guys in the club, and probably 30 dancers. A kid that looked like he was about 12 walked in the door. He sat down, ordered a bottle of water and I went over to him. Apparently he was a trust fund baby that just came into his inheritance. He spent over $3000 on me that night, and I had a blast. I've seen him four times since, all of which were between $1500 and $2500 nights. Would have never guessed!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrissy68 View Post
    Whales in sheep's clothing.

    Another whale, and I mean whale bigger than you can fucking fathom, was a guy in jeans, long sleeve thermal tee, and oxford type shoes. He walked in, and in his walk, I knew. I just fucking knew that he was there to spend. I ditched the customer I was with, and approached him, with a big smile, and he had a grin on his face. He knew I knew and he was good with that. We talked for a few minutes while he "had a drink first" and then we went right back to VIP. No, he didn't ever ever dress like a whale. Ever. Lemme repeat the ever. lol. (His shoes, and his walk, not a swagger, but a sure in himself confident walk were the tip offs) But, he spent over a grand each and every time he came in. AND i introduced him to my bff, who he loved too. He liked less dancing and more talking. "Good conversations from intelligent ladies", he'd say. He would spend one night with me (over $1000) one night with Emily (over $1k) and one night with both of us (over $1k each) in one week. That's what he liked. Hours of talk and sobriety together in VIP. He'd have one drink, tip the host, the dj, us, and the waitress like a rock star.
    Dude, that guy just smelled like money...smthg about him...I had the pleasure of meeting him once, I didn't know who he was, but I saw him from across the room (He was wearing a Phillies t-shirt) and i was like "cha-ching" and cha-ching it was
    These days I like to count my money. I like to wash it delicately and iron it. Sometimes I dry it with some bounty to make it all nice and cuddly. I love my money... did I say that out loud?

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    Well I didn't really hustle him... in fact i didn't even dance for him! He was a mechanic... I had only been talking to him for like a half an hour about poker and cars on one of the deadest nights ever... one thing leads to another I got to talking about how i was stressed that the club was so slow cause I had my car payment due and hardly any money (this was in the beginning of my dancing career... I've learned to save since then!) Any ways... he asks me how much I need to make which I told him at least 500... he pulls out an effing check book, writes the check and hands it over... I had to go on stage a few songs after... he left the club while i was on stage... I cash the check into my account on Monday and it cleared just fine... lol for some reason it's so much more memorable that it was a check you know? The whole weekend I was like "this thing is so fake"! ... easiest 500 I've ever made!

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    hmmm.... my biggest whale for a night was some dude who didnt want me to dance for him either. gave me 2k for sitting and talking for like 4 hours. he was in a group of guys who he did business with. they were all into the really fakey fakey chicks who kept blasting their mouths about how much money they needed to get and i didnt mention money the whole time cus i really liked the guys company. he was telling me the other guys looked like total douchebags to him and he just wanted to kick it. I thought he was gunna give me like a little 500 bucks when they left but he proceeded to put 2k on his card. the other chicks were so mad at me.

    the biggest whale overall that i have had was another story all together. normal looking guy .... dressed well enuff. no flashy watch or anything though. took me to vip a few times ...... over the next few months to a year probably dropped like 60k altogether in cash and gifts. even gave me a credit card to use for anything i needed.

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    Slow Sunday and there was a guy at the bar with messy hair and bad clothes. He wasn't even facing the stage. He spent $2000-3000 in $20 dances at the club. I got $400 off of him.

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    I learned a long time ago not to rule anybody out based on what they are wearing. I screen guys by their age and what kind of shape they are in, (I avoid old, fat dudes) I am actually good at selling to younger guys, I wait for someone else to approach them first, than no matter if they get a dance from her or not, they have someone to compare me to. I invariably get "wow, you're so much cooler than the chick I just met/had dance for me" and they preceed to give me money!

    I learned this lesson during a slow night when a custy that was at least 21 but looked younger showed up. Another girl danced for him before me. I approached him soon after, and during my opening convo I asked what he did for a living, he was hesitant to say but then sheepishly told me he worked at Burger King. Without missing a beat, I responded "no kidding? that's hot! I mean come on the whopper kicks the big mac's ass any day of the week" to which he grinned and immediatly relaxed. I guess the 1st girl laughed, so I did I...all the way to the bank the next day, after he spent a little over $400 on me. (probably his whole paycheck lol)never saw him again though.
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    Leather Philly Eagles Jacket, dirty jeans, Leather PE hat.

    I almost ignored him but I thought, "what the hell".

    600 in VIPs and dances. Hell yeah.

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    Well this is a story about the one that got away. It was the beginning of the shift I was walking the length of the floor to scope everything out then I locked eyes with the most handsome face. Eyes that were so intense that just drew me in but he had greasy looking, scruffy hair and really beat up dirty looking jean jacket and jeans on. Then I saw someone I knew I'd make a couple of hundred off of so I went there. I couldn't waste time on a good looking bum. Well turns out that "bum" was Johnny Depp. He was in Austin making "What's Eating Gilbert Grape". I've kicked myself ever since.

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    ^^^Wow, did he get another girl?

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    ^^^^ OMG that is terrible. I FEEL YOUR PAIN!!!

    (Seriously)

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    drunk ricky
    sigh
    he was there at open
    on a sunday no less
    he tipped a couple bucks at stage and refused dances
    he smelled like a brewery
    girls started avoiding him
    but i kept asking
    he disappeared for a while, most likely to the bar across the lot- were a deja vu and serve no alcohol
    ten he was back in the late afternoon, around four pm
    smoking outside
    everyone ignored him
    i told him to come inside and try a dance and watched alot of girls smoking outside in trench coats roll their eyes
    but he proceeded to do an hour of nudes= 800 dollars
    and tip me= 100 dollars
    and do three hour champagne rooms= 900 dollars
    and three two girl rooms for fifteen minutes a pop with me and calindria= 600 dollars

    he was small, unassuming, blue collar, and the best part was the dances wwe did for him werent even dances- he just wanted to sit and talk and have someone pet his hair and rub his hsoulders
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    I thought this thread was going to be about approaching fat, smelly people.

    Now I know not to judge a thread by its subject.

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    Yes, Johnny got another girl and was sweet and generous customer.

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    Not really a whale, but there were a few customers who got a couple dances from me, and I overlooked them because I was focused on finishing my dinner (Chicken Pot Pie. It's capitalized because of how awesome it was.) The floorguys had to bring me over both times. Considering how dead it was last night (weird for a wednesday) it was very helpful.

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    Good thread! I needed to read all these posts.
    I don't have much to add since most of my whales have dressed pretty normal. None of them wore very expensive clothes though. Not everyone who has money likes to walk around looking like they do!

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    Wow, I have some stories about this!!
    Ok, first, this shabby looking black dude kept trying to talk to me while I was waiting to go on stage and he kept offering to buy me drinks (I was in a nervous mood, so took them).... He was wearing a "Liquidation World" shirt that was DIRTY, and his teeth were really messed up and his hair was messy and the way he spoke didn't indicate "money"!!
    So, I was annoyed he was taking up my time and I think other customers were worried he was being too pushy with me (I saw sympathetic looks or laughs)... ANYWAYS, I agreed to go downstairs with him, SURE that he'd be grabby and a waste of time.
    BUT, he ended up being drunker than he looked and just sitting without touching at all, (contact club), talking to me and stuff.. I made like $500 off him that night. He even gave me his bank card to go withdraw money from the machine about 3 times!!!!! The bouncers were looking at me funny.. That was the most hilarious part. I guess he hadn't been in strip clubs too much before.
    I felt bad when he started talking about his kids and stuff, and I think he worked at liquidation world, so he obviously didn't have that much money to spend..... but who knows. He came back again about two times until I guess he caught onto how strip clubs work (ie. I'm not gonna fuck him)

    Another story involved two hockey players from my town.
    Luckily or unluckily I guess, I didn't have a clue who they were. I was trying to hustle an old man on a slow Sunday night when this dude (turned out to be the goalie) asked me to dance for his friend- some shortish dude in a plain white tshirt and jeans.
    I kind of rolled my eyes because the guy seemed kinda cocky....... so I went, and this guy looked so plain and was so dull to dance for. He wouldn't really talk much, literally sat on his hands, and just had this weird expression on his face. This is mean, but I've gotta post his pic so you see what I mean.
    http://www.ehr.lt/get.php?i.129243
    hee hee..... kinda like Buzz Lightyear, don't you think?

    He started asking if he could have my number and if I had a boyfriend yadda yadda, so I said my usual shpeel, "No, hahaha, I don't give my number.." He asked a few times but I thought he was some scrub.
    He gave me a hefty tip for our dances, and then I found out what he did.
    Turns out he had just arrived in my city and didn't have his clothes with him cuz he left on such short notice.
    And yes, I'm a tad bitter that he is now dating Hilary Duff and buying her expensive cars for her birthday.. haha. But oh well, he was too short for me.
    I guess you never really know......

    Oh. I almost forgot- the hockey player's dad owns The Brick, a furniture store chain..... So he's basically a billionaire. hahhahahahhahahah (bitter laughter)
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